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AlephZero
05/02/17 12:46:10 PM
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https://www.newpoliticstoday.com/uncategorized/mom-says-it-wasnt-fair-that-her-robber-son-was-shot-by-his-intended-victim/
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davyheinz
05/02/17 12:47:30 PM
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Fair, next.
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Caution999
05/02/17 12:48:08 PM
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I'm really confused as to what this story is.

I see this happened at a Pizza Hut? So why does it look like a jewelry store?
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Gojak_v3
05/02/17 12:49:02 PM
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Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 12:50:28 PM
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Mom who just lost son may be thinking irrationally do to grief. More at 11.
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Caution999
05/02/17 12:50:32 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.



inb4 VipaGTS comes in and says "we should just do what the robber says guys!! Even though we don't know if he's going to kill you or not, but YOUR life should be in THEIR hands. It's only right."
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Leanaunfurled
05/02/17 12:50:37 PM
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Yeah it's obviously a fair, next, but is it really so hard to believe a mother would have unrelenting love and bias towards her child, no matter how much of an ass he was, especially when grieving? Emotions, yo, hardly ever reasonable.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 12:51:53 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.



inb4 VipaGTS comes in and says "we should just do what the robber says guys!! Even though we don't know if he's going to kill you or not, but YOUR life should be in THEIR hands. It's only right."

I've never said that but ok.
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Leanaunfurled
05/02/17 12:51:58 PM
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Also lol @ "was died"
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Caution999
05/02/17 12:52:57 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Caution999 posted...
Gojak_v3 posted...
Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.



inb4 VipaGTS comes in and says "we should just do what the robber says guys!! Even though we don't know if he's going to kill you or not, but YOUR life should be in THEIR hands. It's only right."

I've never said that but ok.



You've definitely said "don't be a hero guys! We should just cooperate with the robber or else things will be worse"

Paraphrasing, obviously but don't deny you've said that before.
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Paper_Okami
05/02/17 12:53:14 PM
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Caution999 posted...
I'm really confused as to what this story is.

I see this happened at a Pizza Hut? So why does it look like a jewelry store?


Yeah, wtf.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 12:53:54 PM
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Caution999 posted...
You've definitely said "don't be a hero guys! We should just cooperate with the robber or else things will be worse"

no i didn't. I think if you aren't properly equipped to take on the robber then its best to not try to be a hero as it could make the situation more hectic and worse....if you can fight back like in this case then go ahead and do it. Jesus man anytime a gun is involved you just act like more of an ass and lose all common sense (if you ever had any)
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Bloodychess
05/02/17 12:54:24 PM
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Thanks mom for clearing up why your son turned out the way he did.
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snesmaster40
05/02/17 12:55:22 PM
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Caution999 posted...
I'm really confused as to what this story is.

I see this happened at a Pizza Hut? So why does it look like a jewelry store?


Crap website using images of another incident.

Those images are from an armed robbery fail where some guys tried to rob a gun store.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/02/17 12:55:31 PM
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"Sins of the father" is stupid but honestly, maybe we need some "sins of the son" legislation. If you can't raise a decent person, perhaps you bear some of the responsibility.

Parents this stupid are bringing down our society. Fuck that "she's just emotional" bullshit.
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frozenshock
05/02/17 12:55:38 PM
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Poor guy
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Solar_Crimson
05/02/17 12:56:20 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.

It's fair that he was shot, but do you really expect his own mother to say that?
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foreveraIone
05/02/17 12:56:21 PM
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It always seems to happen. Teenager(s) act like scumbags. Then get shot. Then family tries to pretend that he was a good kid.

And before anyone brings up that racist meme. I've seen it happen with white families as well.
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Medz8606
05/02/17 12:56:39 PM
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Gojak_v3 posted...
Can't make this shit up. This is the country we live in.

Thanks Trump
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HypnoCoosh
05/02/17 12:56:43 PM
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"He was down on his luck and trying to get money for his kid" lol OK

If only there were other way to get money besides robbery.
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Maze_
05/02/17 12:56:49 PM
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Of course she's saying that. She's a mom whose son was just killed.

She's going to be upset and irrational.

What kind of mom is going to react to her kid dying by going "Well he deserved it lol."
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Irony
05/02/17 12:57:04 PM
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BREAKING: Mom says biased stuff about her son
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HypnoCoosh
05/02/17 12:57:30 PM
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Maze_ posted...
What kind of mom is going to react to her kid dying by going "Well he deserved it lol."


A rational one?
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Tropicalwood
05/02/17 12:58:16 PM
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Is this the story where the "victim" was a former employee that came in and pointed a gun at the cashiers head, then the guy working in the back shot him in the head.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 12:58:26 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
It always seems to happen. Teenager(s) act like scumbags. Then get shot. Then family tries to pretend that he was a good kid.

And before anyone brings up that racist meme. I've seen it happen with white families as well.

I don't see why we should attack the family for that though. Especially the mom...What if he really didn't act like this around her? at the same time she found out he acted like this and also found out her son is dead....It takes time to admit to yourself that your son who you love wasn't the "can do no wrong" little kid anymore....
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Solid Snake07
05/02/17 12:58:26 PM
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Michael Grace Jr. was died


anyway, her son is dead. you can't exactly expect her to be objective here
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Maze_
05/02/17 12:58:30 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Maze_ posted...
What kind of mom is going to react to her kid dying by going "Well he deserved it lol."


A rational one?

Not many moms will react rationally to their son being shot.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 12:59:03 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Maze_ posted...
What kind of mom is going to react to her kid dying by going "Well he deserved it lol."


A rational one?

Yea man, so easy to be rational when you just found out your son died.
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foreveraIone
05/02/17 1:00:19 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
I don't see why we should attack the family for that though. Especially the mom...What if he really didn't act like this around her? at the same time she found out he acted like this and also found out her son is dead....It takes time to admit to yourself that your son who you love wasn't the "can do no wrong" little kid anymore....


I'm not saying that we should attack anyone. My point is that its a fairly common occurence, after a criminal is killed.
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Leanaunfurled
05/02/17 1:00:56 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
It always seems to happen. Teenager(s) act like scumbags. Then get shot. Then family tries to pretend that he was a good kid.

And before anyone brings up that racist meme. I've seen it happen with white families as well.

Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/02/17 1:02:34 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
he wasn't

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eston
05/02/17 1:02:41 PM
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Much like with the grandfather of that kid who was shot breaking into someone's house, I think it's irresponsible for news outlets to publish these types of comments. This woman is grieving over the death of her son, and it is completely natural for her to try and justify why her little angel didn't deserve to die. There's nothing wrong with that. In time she will accept what happened, and accept that these were consequences for his actions. All this story does is make her a target for harassment from legions of internet commenter telling her that her son deserved to die.

I feel very bad for this woman. On top of all this, her grandchild now has to grow up without a father
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epik_fail1
05/02/17 1:02:55 PM
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My brother already stole from me when he was younger and would probably still be sad and irrational if he died. When you lose loved one, it is common to become irrational.
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Maze_
05/02/17 1:05:51 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
My brother already stole from me when he was younger and would probably still be sad and irrational if he died. .

Same

He robbed a store too
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 1:06:45 PM
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Yea, Like say if tomorrow my Cousin loses his job and falls, and in a desperate move down the road tries to rob someone. He was a good kid his whole life as far as I knew him. IF he died as a result of that robbery I'd be sad and refuse to believe it at first. But then the edgelord idiots will say to me "NAH HE DESERVED IT DUMBASS"....what do you people get out of doing that? Go ahead and attack the person who did the act if you NEED to, but there is no reason to call the mother an idiot. So she said something that may be PERCEIVED as dumb out of context...so what? She lost her son, I'm sure she's upset with herself at how he might have turned out.....but more so...SHE LOST HER SON....I'm sure Its not easy to be rational in that situation...
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foreveraIone
05/02/17 1:07:05 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.
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Leanaunfurled
05/02/17 1:08:42 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.

I never said he didn't, so...thanks?
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AugustAdoulin
05/02/17 1:09:07 PM
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He didn't do nothin'
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Bloodychess
05/02/17 1:10:12 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.


Just let her be naive.
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Holy_Cloud105
05/02/17 1:11:19 PM
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Michael Grace Jr. was died from a gunshot wound

Ok.
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Solar_Crimson
05/02/17 1:12:21 PM
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Bloodychess posted...
foreveraIone posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.


Just let her be naive.

There's nothing naive about what she said.
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gatorsPENSbucs
05/02/17 1:12:51 PM
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I wanna laugh but that's awful, the worst part is this mom will probably get a go fund me or some shit and make a lot of money.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/02/17 1:22:29 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
foreveraIone posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.

I never said he didn't, so...thanks?


You said maybe he was a good kid. That's off the table with armed robbery.
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Dathrowed1
05/02/17 1:23:10 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You said maybe he was a good kid. That's off the table with armed robbery.

Well he was a good kid until he started to rob people. Or maybe he was a good kid who made a bad decision.
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eston
05/02/17 1:24:12 PM
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I don't think it's that simple. He committed the robbery because he couldn't afford to feed his child. He did a bad thing for a good reason.
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Bloodychess
05/02/17 1:26:15 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Bloodychess posted...
foreveraIone posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Maybe he was a good kid. Maybe he wasn't. Guess fucking what, the world and the people in it aren't black and white and one act of emotional desperation doesn't define the entire life of someone, as much as Internet robots who don't know empathy insist it does.


He literally tried to violently rob someone.


Just let her be naive.

There's nothing naive about what she said.


Sure, it was just a moment of weakness. Whatever helps you keep faith in humanity at night.
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TheVipaGTS
05/02/17 1:26:40 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You said maybe he was a good kid. That's off the table with armed robbery.

Well he was a good kid until he started to rob people. Or maybe he was a good kid who made a bad decision.

yea, i don't know this dude's life story, but it says in the article that he had a kid and was on hard times and they think he tried to rob the place for money for his child....I'm not saying that makes it ok. I'm just saying different situations and changes can cause someone to do wrong, even if they never did wrong their entire life. Doesn't make it ok, doesn't mean I'm defending him...Its just...Reality....And yes, not everyone does that. Not everyone would succumb to that....but hopelessness and stress can lead to a lot of different things...There have been people who committed crimes just so they can go to jail and get health care.

But like I said, none of us know his life story so its pointless to argue about this. Attacking a mother for making comments like this after losing her son is even dumber.
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E32005
05/02/17 1:26:52 PM
#48:


snesmaster40 posted...
Caution999 posted...
I'm really confused as to what this story is.

I see this happened at a Pizza Hut? So why does it look like a jewelry store?


Crap website using images of another incident.

Those images are from an armed robbery fail where some guys tried to rob a gun store.

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EvoTech
05/02/17 1:27:55 PM
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eston posted...
I don't think it's that simple. He committed the robbery because he couldn't afford to feed his child. He did a bad thing for a good reason.


Why didn't he just get a job like a good person?

Also why doesn't this Pizza Hut have bullet proof glass covering the cashier?
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gatorsPENSbucs
05/02/17 1:29:09 PM
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Oh boo hoo, tons of people are poor and they aren't going around possibly killing people. Grow a pair, man up, get an extra job or 2 and get your shit together. The second you decide to rob someone is the second none of your past matters and you become an awful person.
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