Current Events > Is the Switch proof advertising and word of mouth works?

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darkphoenix181
05/02/17 12:44:02 PM
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Atm Switch is basically just a Wii U that looks more fancy. That is because it has mainly Wii U games.
Zelda BOTW and MK8, both ported to it from the Wii U.

But the Wii U failed and the Switch is already a success. How can that be when the Wii U had so many more games. Even comparing to what the Switch teased the Wii U wins on that. Yet it failed.

Did they simply not advertise the Wii U enough. Did it lack some WOW factor that the Switch somehow has?
Or was it the timing of the release? Perhaps it could be that Switch is now released when PS4 and Xbone basically are running on fumes. Infact it seems Sony feels the same and is releasing PS5 next year.
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ChromaticAngel
05/02/17 12:45:07 PM
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Don't you have anything better to do?
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Mikablu
05/02/17 12:45:41 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
But the Wii U failed and the Switch is already a success. How can that be when the Wii U had so many more games

They actually had advertising for the Switch and didn't name it in a way that made people think it was a Wii accessory (and they might not have needed to do that if the Wii didn't have like 500 accessories).
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darkphoenix181
05/02/17 12:45:51 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Don't you have anything better to do?


I mean, if you had something better to do then would you have read my thread and felt like posting?
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MaverickXeo
05/02/17 12:45:56 PM
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The Wii U suffered from arrogance from Nintendo, and the idea that it was simply an 'add on' or upgraded version to the Wii.
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Shmashed
05/02/17 12:46:21 PM
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I'd say that it's had a good marketing campaign, combined with a good product that actually delivers on what the marketing campaign says it can do.
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ManLink4321
05/02/17 12:47:38 PM
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Shmashed posted...
I'd say that it's had a good marketing campaign, combined with a good product that actually delivers on what the marketing campaign says it can do.

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bluezero
05/02/17 12:47:57 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
PS4 and Xbone basically are running on fumes.

PS4 and X1 are just hitting their stride.
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green butter
05/02/17 12:48:14 PM
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the wii u was a confusing and underwhelming product in every single aspect. it's hard to pinpoint just one reason it failed

bluezero posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
PS4 and Xbone basically are running on fumes.

PS4 and X1 are just hitting their stride.

LOL no
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chill02
05/02/17 12:48:53 PM
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because when you see it, you switch it off and walk away
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Banjo2553
05/02/17 12:49:13 PM
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The Wii U's advertising campaign was not only terrible, but pretty sparse too. People either didn't even know it existed, or thought it was just an overpriced controller add-on for the Wii. By the time people would've gotten the message that it was an actual new console, third-parties stopped supporting it, so it was dead in the water. So yes, good advertising can make a difference. Many good games also fell victim to poor sales because of poor advertisement.
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Cartwheel_Kick
05/02/17 12:49:16 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
The Wii U suffered from arrogance from Nintendo, and the idea that it was simply an 'add on' or upgraded version to the Wii.


I guess Nintendo overestimated the general populace's intelligence
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Virus731
05/02/17 12:49:31 PM
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Ugh, you guys are making me want a Switch more than this N3DSXL I committed to buying tomorrow.
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Banjo2553
05/02/17 12:51:38 PM
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Virus731 posted...
Ugh, you guys are making me want a Switch more than this N3DSXL I committed to buying tomorrow.

Go with the N3DSXL. The Switch will be worth more later on when more games come out.
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HypnoCoosh
05/02/17 12:52:13 PM
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The technology has reached a point the NS works.

The Wii U just wasn't sure what it wanted to be and the tech was lacking.

Also I agree with the name "Wii U" just didn't excite or drawn interest.
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darkphoenix181
05/02/17 12:52:18 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
or thought it was just an overpriced controller add-on for the Wii.


Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?
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legendarylemur
05/02/17 12:54:14 PM
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Please baby, it hurts me to see you cry
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Banjo2553
05/02/17 12:55:20 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
or thought it was just an overpriced controller add-on for the Wii.


Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?

Back when the Wii U was first revealed, many people were led to believe this because of how the reveal trailer was made. They showed only the GamePad, no sign of the console, showed it being used with other Wii accessories and games, so one might assume it's yet another controller. Even I came to the same conclusion until I did some more research and saw it was actually a new console.

Also considering future adverts for the system emphasized "it's a brand NEW console" I'm readily willing to believe that it's the case.
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Mikablu
05/02/17 12:56:18 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
or thought it was just an overpriced controller add-on for the Wii.


Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?

I saw quite a few people in Gamestop asking for "that new Wii thingy" and got mad when they realized it wouldn't work with the Wii they already had.
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BLAKUboy
05/02/17 12:57:11 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?

When I got a WiiU, my sister asked if it was just an add-on for the Wii. They very much exist, and it stems from all the advertising focusing exclusively on the tablet and even showing Wii-motes being used and Wii-like games being played.
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darkphoenix181
05/02/17 12:57:41 PM
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Mikablu posted...
I saw quite a few people in Gamestop asking for "that new Wii thingy" and got mad when they realized it wouldn't work with the Wii they already had.


lol
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BLAKUboy
05/02/17 12:59:27 PM
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And, hell, I didn't even get a WiiU until after WWHD was out, so this wasn't even just a launch issue either.
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ChromaticAngel
05/02/17 1:14:21 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?

When I got a WiiU, my sister asked if it was just an add-on for the Wii. They very much exist, and it stems from all the advertising focusing exclusively on the tablet and even showing Wii-motes being used and Wii-like games being played.

darkphoenix181 posted...
Mikablu posted...
I saw quite a few people in Gamestop asking for "that new Wii thingy" and got mad when they realized it wouldn't work with the Wii they already had.


lol


Sounds dumb but there have been times that I spent 5 minutes in Gamestop and see moms go in asking for Pokemon for PSP.
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ManLink4321
05/02/17 1:18:11 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Is there actually any real people who believed this that we can actually see or is this just something gamers like to say is true?

When I got a WiiU, my sister asked if it was just an add-on for the Wii. They very much exist, and it stems from all the advertising focusing exclusively on the tablet and even showing Wii-motes being used and Wii-like games being played.

darkphoenix181 posted...
Mikablu posted...
I saw quite a few people in Gamestop asking for "that new Wii thingy" and got mad when they realized it wouldn't work with the Wii they already had.


lol


Sounds dumb but there have been times that I spent 5 minutes in Gamestop and see moms go in asking for Pokemon for PSP.


I once saw in GameStop see a mom who thought that Super Mario Galaxy 1 was superior to the 2nd one. She said that in front of everyone in the store.
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darkphoenix181
05/02/17 2:19:55 PM
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I mean, moms yeah, of course. Moms aren't going to know anything about video games.
They will ask for black cops for xbox and their kid will be like "mom! I wanted #3 for ps4! this is for 360!"

but if actual gamers are confused then nintendo messed up
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Link HT
05/02/17 2:24:00 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
I mean, moms yeah, of course. Moms aren't going to know anything about video games.
They will ask for black cops for xbox and their kid will be like "mom! I wanted #3 for ps4! this is for 360!"

but if actual gamers are confused then nintendo messed up

The console's name was indeed terrible and so was the overall marketing but no actual gamer would get confused.

FFS they have different boxes and different sections in every website, nobody who actually BUYS games was confused. Sure some mega casuals would get confused but those are the same people who don't know what iteration of playstation is the current one.
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Turbam
05/02/17 2:25:20 PM
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Not a lot of people knew what the Wii U was.
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ChromaticAngel
05/02/17 2:38:54 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
I mean, moms yeah, of course. Moms aren't going to know anything about video games.
They will ask for black cops for xbox and their kid will be like "mom! I wanted #3 for ps4! this is for 360!"

but if actual gamers are confused then nintendo messed up


I agree. This is say predominantly a problem if you were to do something like give up hardcore titles entirely and market a console as this cheap kid-friendly alternative. I wonder who would do something like that, though.
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