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lilORANG
04/30/17 7:52:08 PM
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StarReaper13
04/30/17 7:53:46 PM
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What the actual hell.
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eston
04/30/17 7:53:56 PM
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CrimsonAngeI
04/30/17 7:55:11 PM
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Well, America had a good run.
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BLAKUboy
04/30/17 7:55:40 PM
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eston posted...
Because that's a thing the president can do

Trump's an idiot. In other news: Water is wet. More at 11.
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Ampelas
04/30/17 7:58:41 PM
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I'm curious how people who defend the 2nd Amendment feel about this. For what it's worth, I believe both should remain untouched "Inalienable rights" is a pretty firm statement, you know?
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Ving_Rhames
04/30/17 8:01:00 PM
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literally a manchild, no wonder his supporters love him so much, can't take what he dishes out LOL
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marc55
04/30/17 8:01:38 PM
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eston posted...
Because that's a thing the president can do

didnt he say hillary would abolish the 2nd

he thinks the president can do stuff like that on his own

maybe thats why he was so surprised judges could stop his travel ban
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Phantom_Nook
04/30/17 8:03:53 PM
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Holy shit, Trump wants to be a literal dictator.
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Darklit_Minuet
04/30/17 8:05:17 PM
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Honestly, the 1st Amendment should be updated. Just not in the way Trump wants.

Just add "PS: This Amendment applies to speech. Money is not speech" at the end of it.
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wah_wah_wah
04/30/17 8:09:32 PM
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One thing that conservatives have been surprisingly firmly in favor of is free speech issues. Even guys like Scalia were remarkably consistent in favor of free speech. Even more than many establishment liberals have been. What the President is redirecting the conservative conversation on speech to be is a radical departure from that, and it is a very sad thing to see (but not altogether surprising given the increasingly warped and nihilistic support of force as a cure to all that the right is increasingly embracing).

For all the significant problems this country has, one of its greatest attributes is its freedom of speech protections which are more significant than any other country in the world. Take away freedom of speech and that's basically the ball game.
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lilORANG
04/30/17 8:27:28 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Honestly, the 1st Amendment should be updated. Just not in the way Trump wants.

Just add "PS: This Amendment applies to speech. Money is not speech" at the end of it.

it's sad that we need to be that explicit lol. It's amazing how dumb the harvard law grads on the Court can be sometimes.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/30/17 8:29:10 PM
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1) post a legit source, that one looks lolable
2) it'll never happen lol
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lilORANG
04/30/17 8:30:22 PM
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muchdran
04/30/17 8:32:19 PM
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That's how you catch a liberal
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muchdran
04/30/17 8:33:45 PM
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Liberals tend to react off of emotions not facts.
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Letron_James
04/30/17 8:34:55 PM
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Sad!
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3rd_Best_Master
04/30/17 8:39:55 PM
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muchdran posted...
Liberals tend to react off of emotions not facts.

Like their views concerning homosexuality.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/30/17 8:40:45 PM
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muchdran
04/30/17 8:41:12 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
muchdran posted...
Liberals tend to react off of emotions not facts.

Like their views concerning homosexuality.

Well that's offensive
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Adumigan
04/30/17 8:42:09 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
muchdran posted...
Liberals tend to react off of emotions not facts.

Like their views concerning homosexuality.

What's that even supposed to mean
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Tropicalwood
04/30/17 8:45:13 PM
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lilORANG posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-official-weve-looked-libel-laws-restrict/story?id=47114566

Old.

This was actually part of his campaign which as I recall was in regards to the press getting a free pass on shit like Zimmerman being portrayed as a racist.
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CrimsonAngeI
04/30/17 8:46:38 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
Old.

I know, 11am this morning..it's like ancient.
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lilORANG
04/30/17 8:48:32 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
lilORANG posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-official-weve-looked-libel-laws-restrict/story?id=47114566

Old.

This was actually part of his campaign which as I recall was in regards to the press getting a free pass on shit like Zimmerman being portrayed as a racist.


Published APRIL 30, 2017 3:41 PM

His comments on Libel were heavily criticized during the campaign, and then never mentioned by Trump again. It just shows how stupid this administration is that they're apparently still considering a constitutional amendment to deal with free speech.
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Axiom
04/30/17 8:50:36 PM
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Well he did openly state that he wanted the ability to sue anyone that insults him so this comes as no surprise. He's a scummy piece of shit that wants more safe spaces than the SJWs he is supposed to oppose according to his supporters
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Tropicalwood
04/30/17 8:51:32 PM
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CrimsonAngeI posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
Old.

I know, 11am this morning..it's like ancient.

He brought it up as if Trump suddenly decided on this five minutes ago, but he said it last year and all of a sudden this is supposed to be a big surprise.
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Bio1590
04/30/17 8:53:30 PM
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Tropicalwood with his typical Trump nuthugging lmfao
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Tropicalwood
04/30/17 8:54:57 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Tropicalwood with his typical Trump nuthugging lmfao

Hi Ampelas, you having fun talking about old dudes' nuts with your friends?
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Bio1590
04/30/17 8:58:05 PM
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You think I'm Ampelas? I didn't realize you were that delusional lmfao.
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Tropicalwood
04/30/17 8:59:34 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
You think I'm Ampelas? I didn't realize you were that delusional lmfao.

Clearly you are, unless you too like nuts.
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Balkov
04/30/17 9:02:08 PM
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But you can already sue newspapers for libel. Didn't his wife literally just win a lawsuit based around exactly that? And Gawker too?
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Bio1590
04/30/17 9:02:32 PM
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@Ampelas get a load of this fucking guy.

I think gargling all that Trump seed has fried his brain
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Ampelas
04/30/17 9:03:15 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
Bio1590 posted...
You think I'm Ampelas? I didn't realize you were that delusional lmfao.

Clearly you are, unless you too like nuts.

He doesn't understand your ridiculous correlation here.

Bio, I called out Tropicalwood and told him to get off Trump's nuts. Being a Trumpanzee, and adept at mental gymnastics, he somehow flipped that into me being obsessed with old dude's nuts.
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Bio1590
04/30/17 9:04:37 PM
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Balkov posted...
But you can already sue newspapers for libel. Didn't his wife literally just win a lawsuit based around exactly that? And Gawker too?

THe libel laws only concern making knowingly false statements don't they?

Iirc they also want to do away with "anonymous sources".
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muchdran
04/30/17 9:06:59 PM
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Did CNN confirm the was ending?
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Sayoria
04/30/17 9:15:22 PM
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Wow. Yeah, fuck this guy.
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Saloonist
04/30/17 9:16:34 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Balkov posted...
But you can already sue newspapers for libel. Didn't his wife literally just win a lawsuit based around exactly that? And Gawker too?

THe libel laws only concern making knowingly false statements don't they?

Iirc they also want to do away with "anonymous sources".

The standard is actual malice which requires that the person publishing the allegedly libellous statement be shown to have made the statements "with knowledge that they are false or in reckless disregard of their truth or falsity". And the burden is on the plaintiff to prove these things which is an incredibly high bar because you have to prove another person had knowledge in their head or records contrary to what they said or meet the nebulous standard of reckless disregard.

Even after somehow proving all that the plaintiff usually must then show that they actually suffered some sort of damage because of the statements.
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Tropicalwood
04/30/17 9:25:38 PM
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Ampelas posted...

First you ramble on about some old dude's nuts in a thread about a school district, now you're talking to yourself.
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chill02
04/30/17 9:40:13 PM
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eston posted...
Because that's a thing the president can do

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psvitantifail
04/30/17 9:55:12 PM
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1XGKDEk
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Kim Kusanagi
05/01/17 12:39:47 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Tropicalwood with his typical Trump nuthugging lmfao

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yusiko
05/01/17 12:48:40 AM
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muchdran posted...
Conservatives tend to react off of emotions not facts.




fixed that for you
trump being an incompetent idiot is a fact
conservatives ignored those like they always do and voted for him any way.
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Ampelas
05/01/17 2:21:37 AM
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Kim Kusanagi posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Tropicalwood with his typical Trump nuthugging lmfao

Now you're gonna be my alt as well in his eyes, lmao
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Ving_Rhames
05/01/17 4:47:55 AM
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yusiko posted...
muchdran posted...
Conservatives tend to react off of emotions not facts.




fixed that for you
trump being an incompetent idiot is a fact
conservatives ignored those like they always do and voted for him any way.


Wrong sad alternate facts!!! MAGA cucks top kek lel
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scoobydoobydont
05/01/17 6:33:57 AM
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scorpion41
05/01/17 6:36:33 AM
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scoobydoobydont posted...
I want to abolish the second amendment.


Well thankfully you're part of a very, very small minority. The second amendment protects the first.
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Solid Sonic
05/01/17 6:44:34 AM
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The Bill of Rights is dead weight too, let's get rid of that.
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Lonestar2000
05/01/17 6:51:22 AM
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Piss baby Trump is such a stupid piece of shit.
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3rd_Best_Master
05/01/17 8:32:05 AM
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scorpion41 posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
I want to abolish the second amendment.


Well thankfully you're part of a very, very small minority. The second amendment protects the first.

How so?
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Ampelas
05/01/17 8:36:53 AM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
scorpion41 posted...
scoobydoobydont posted...
I want to abolish the second amendment.


Well thankfully you're part of a very, very small minority. The second amendment protects the first.

How so?

Because, if an actual dictatorship attempted to rise in the US, fighting fire with fire could become necessary. I believe armed revolution would be justified in such a case. Not that Trump could get enough of a following to actually pose any threat of dictatorship. It takes a full 2/3 of the Senate to create a constitutional amendment, and Trump doesn't even have the support of the full Republican party.
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