Poll of the Day > Hipsters are ruining everything

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St_Kevin
04/25/17 9:36:33 AM
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Sex
Men
Women
America
Politics
Food
Fashion
The economy

I mean wow

Worst Generation ever

We need a World War because it's like 1920 Gatsby out there

#bringbackthegreatestgeneration
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Junpeiclover
04/25/17 9:58:21 AM
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St_Kevin posted...
#bringbackthegreatestgeneration


when the greatest generation can wrap their heads around technology as fast as millenials/gen z people we can bring it back
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TheCyborgNinja
04/25/17 9:59:11 AM
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Junpeiclover posted...
St_Kevin posted...
#bringbackthegreatestgeneration


when the greatest generation can wrap their heads around technology as fast as millenials/gen z people we can bring it back

That generation also includes the Nazis, technically.
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DesertPenguin09
04/25/17 10:28:53 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Junpeiclover posted...
St_Kevin posted...
#bringbackthegreatestgeneration


when the greatest generation can wrap their heads around technology as fast as millenials/gen z people we can bring it back

That generation also includes the Nazis, technically.

Most likely not. Based on how the Nazi Party came to rise and the general resentment Germans had for the rest of the world came out of their loss in World War One. They actually believed they were wronged. I'm picturing most Nazis were WWI Veterans out for revenge so probably the generation just before the greatest generation.
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Shibby_123
04/25/17 10:36:30 AM
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Ironic that you're using a hashtag to lead your argument. Bring back what exactly?

A bigot generation that raised a generation that's vastly surpassing them? Is that it, pride? Scared you'll be forgotten? Why would you wish for a war, and have you even read Gatsby, I'm guessing you read it once in High school and you're trying to make your argument seem smarter? The differences between the problems then and now are staggering.
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dedbus
04/25/17 10:51:25 AM
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That's cute, wait until the next generation finds its set of ideals and suddenly you're the "bigot". Society is naturally progressing because it has the infrastructure to progress. Each milestone paves the way for work in other and further areas like a skill tree or standing on the shoulders of giants if you will.
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Shibby_123
04/25/17 12:24:25 PM
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dedbus posted...
That's cute, wait until the next generation finds its set of ideals and suddenly you're the "bigot". Society is naturally progressing because it has the infrastructure to progress. Each milestone paves the way for work in other and further areas like a skill tree or standing on the shoulders of giants if you will.


Definitely not because I accept change and honest to Telhu hope the next generation improves, change is the only thing that's constant. Doesn't mean I'm going to create a topic about hating them for ruining everything. Good anology though.
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Muffinz0rz
04/25/17 12:31:54 PM
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St_Kevin posted...
Sex

Can you elaborate?

St_Kevin posted...
Men

I will say, I'm not a fan of the "hipster" sense of dress, ponytails, wacky facial hair, or whatever. But I'm not going to go around saying they can't dress like that, or that they're "ruining" men.

St_Kevin posted...
Women

Similar as the one for men, minus the facial hair. I will say I'm not a fan of whatever you call that half-buzzed hairstyle, where like half of her head is a buzzcut and the other half is long. Again, just because I don't care for it, doesn't mean I'm telling people not to do it.

St_Kevin posted...
America

Can you elaborate?

St_Kevin posted...
Politics

Hard no on this one. Find me one hipster in politics. And honestly, if a hipster ever found him/herself in politics, they'd probably help it, not hurt it.

St_Kevin posted...
Food

Again, if you don't like hipster food, don't eat it. There are still plenty of restaurants where you can sit down and get a nice juicy burger, without all the hipster-y changes with strange ingredients and weird combinations.

St_Kevin posted...
Fashion

Yeah I'm not a fan. But again, not gonna tell people how to dress.
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Muffinz0rz
04/25/17 12:32:27 PM
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St_Kevin posted...
The economy

In fairness, they are the ones who will pay extra cash for exotic drinks or ridiculous apparel.
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Smarkil
04/25/17 12:35:34 PM
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St_Kevin posted...
Men


This is the one that annoys me the most.

They took the things that used to make someone look cool and manly and made it for pussies.

You can't have mustaches/beards anymore, you can't have a buncha tattoos anymore, you can't have a shaved head anymore, you can't even wear flannel anymore.

All ruined by hipsters.
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_AdjI_
04/25/17 1:31:29 PM
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Smarkil posted...
St_Kevin posted...
Men


This is the one that annoys me the most.

They took the things that used to make someone look cool and manly and made it for pussies.

You can't have mustaches/beards anymore, you can't have a buncha tattoos anymore, you can't have a shaved head anymore, you can't even wear flannel anymore.

All ruined by hipsters.


If something is relied upon to make people look cool and manly, it's inevitably going to be adopted by so many people that aren't cool or manly (because they're desperate to appear as such) that it will lose that association. Be manly on your own terms, not by relying on how something makes you look.
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Smarkil
04/25/17 1:33:38 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
If something is relied upon to make people look cool and manly, it's inevitably going to be adopted by so many people that aren't cool or manly (because they're desperate to appear as such) that it will lose that association. Be manly on your own terms, not by relying on how something makes you look.


Get the fuck outta here. Don't pretend like people or groups of people can't ruin certain looks or styles. How you appear is important. It gives people visual cues as to what you are as a person.
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Claude_Frollo
04/25/17 1:35:03 PM
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Smarkil posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
If something is relied upon to make people look cool and manly, it's inevitably going to be adopted by so many people that aren't cool or manly (because they're desperate to appear as such) that it will lose that association. Be manly on your own terms, not by relying on how something makes you look.


Get the fuck outta here. Don't pretend like people or groups of people can't ruin certain looks or styles.


Looks to me like he's outright stating that people or groups of people can and will ruin certain looks or styles.
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_AdjI_
04/25/17 1:37:29 PM
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Smarkil posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
If something is relied upon to make people look cool and manly, it's inevitably going to be adopted by so many people that aren't cool or manly (because they're desperate to appear as such) that it will lose that association. Be manly on your own terms, not by relying on how something makes you look.


Get the fuck outta here. Don't pretend like people or groups of people can't ruin certain looks or styles.


Only if what's being "ruined" about the style is so flimsy and fragile that it was devoid of value all along. Beards and flannel shirts still look exactly the same as they always have; nothing's stopping you from adopting such styles if you like how they look. If you liked the styles because they made you feel manly, though, there was never any chance of that lasting, so don't act surprised or put too much effort into singling out a specific group that's responsible for what would inevitably have happened.
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wolfy42
04/25/17 1:37:32 PM
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The current generation that is growing up is going to be WAY different as they have constant sources of media and quite often interact mainly online and through texts. I'm kinda scared to be honest, as some of the younger kids have absolutely no ability to wait/patience and can literally zone out and not notice anything going on in the real world for hours at a time.

That isn't horrible for an adult, but for a 4 year old?

Scary.
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Mead
04/25/17 1:37:44 PM
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Hipsters haven't ruined any of thise things for me

You have to learn to enjoy things despite idiots existing, or you'll never have any fun
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Smarkil
04/25/17 1:41:36 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Only if what's being "ruined" about the style is so flimsy and fragile that it was devoid of value all along. Beards and flannel shirts still look exactly the same as they always have; nothing's stopping you from adopting such styles if you like how they look. If you liked the styles because they made you feel manly, though, there was never any chance of that lasting, so don't act surprised or put too much effort into singling out a specific group that's responsible for what would inevitably have happened.


I rephrased what I was saying but after you quoted me.

Your appearance to the outside world is important and people co-opting styles that are not actually a part of what that style represents ruins the representation. These distinctions in representation help to differentiate between different types of people, and I happen to like that.

What used to be, "That guy could probably kick my ass" is now "That guy is probably a huge pussy" because it was co-opted by a bunch of assholes.
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_AdjI_
04/25/17 1:51:14 PM
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Smarkil posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Only if what's being "ruined" about the style is so flimsy and fragile that it was devoid of value all along. Beards and flannel shirts still look exactly the same as they always have; nothing's stopping you from adopting such styles if you like how they look. If you liked the styles because they made you feel manly, though, there was never any chance of that lasting, so don't act surprised or put too much effort into singling out a specific group that's responsible for what would inevitably have happened.


I rephrased what I was saying but after you quoted me.

Your appearance to the outside world is important and people co-opting styles that are not actually a part of what that style represents ruins the representation. These distinctions in representation help to differentiate between different types of people, and I happen to like that.

What used to be, "That guy could probably kick my ass" is now "That guy is probably a huge pussy" because it was co-opted by a bunch of assholes.


A beard and a flannel shirt never actually meant "that guy could probably kick my ass," though. It was adopted by other groups because of that flimsy, superficial interpretation, but nobody has ever seriously thought that a beard or flannel shirt alone made somebody badass. "That guy could probably kick my ass" is entirely a matter of your build and how you carry yourself, not what you wear.
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ZiggiStardust
04/25/17 1:54:03 PM
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'hipster' is such a nebulous word these days. it doesn't really mean anything anymore. you ask 5 different people its definition, and you'll get 5 different answers, ok?
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Unfernal_Server
04/25/17 1:59:18 PM
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Alright I really don't want to shit on you Smarkil but you sound like such a baby right now. You're simultaneously obsessed with what other people think of you and what you think of other people...
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bryans7
04/25/17 3:03:25 PM
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Smarkil
04/26/17 11:20:03 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
A beard and a flannel shirt never actually meant "that guy could probably kick my ass," though. It was adopted by other groups because of that flimsy, superficial interpretation, but nobody has ever seriously thought that a beard or flannel shirt alone made somebody badass. "That guy could probably kick my ass" is entirely a matter of your build and how you carry yourself, not what you wear.


Are you thinking I'm saying that a beard turns you into the Hulk? Of course I'm not saying that. FFS. I'm saying that if a certain group of people dress a certain way unintentionally, and then a bunch of hipsters come in and co-opt that style, it just happens to be annoying. Hipsters are trying to dress in such a way that they choose to be things that normal people wouldn't want to be.

For fucks sake there's an internet meme floating around called "Homeless or Hipster?" because nobody can figure out what the hell they are anymore.

It's like a weird version of being a poser but being a poser for something nobody wants to be. It's like shaving your head because you want to look like a cancer patient.

Unfernal_Server posted...
Alright I really don't want to shit on you Smarkil but you sound like such a baby right now. You're simultaneously obsessed with what other people think of you and what you think of other people...


I'm not obsessed with anything. And you say those two things like they're mutually exclusive. I'm saying I don't like that people might assume me to be a hipster because I have a beard. Nobody should have to be erroneously assumed to be a hipster. Not even the aforementioned homeless people.
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