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UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 6:34:11 AM #1:	The Runner Up of World War 2 Yes. No, he was a Christian No he was neither. I don't know. View Results This has been a debate for decades. His mother was Catholic and he presented outward Christian views in public speeches and writing, those under his rule certainly believed he was Christian and the Catholic Church honored him as the bee's knees throughout his entire life However the water gets mudded considering his anti-religious youth, his comments made in private and his desire to weaken the power of the church in Europe. Some comments are unconfirmed but there is a laundry list of Hitler decrying the idiocy of Christian values and believers, as well as viewing the worlds different religions in a very atheistic manner of just being tools to guide a population. https://imgtc.com/i/w0Am32e.jpeg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler Do you believe Hitler believed in God? Or do you think he was just an atheist who used his giant atheist brain to manipulate religious people into doing his bidding? The jury is still out as Historians can't decide if he was Atheist, Christian or neither, but what does CE think? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877855759] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote> The Runner Up of World War 2 Yes. No, he was a Christian No he was neither. I don't know. View Results This has been a debate for decades. His mother was Catholic and he presented outward Christian views in public speeches and writing, those under his rule certainly believed he was Christian and the Catholic Church honored him as the bee's knees throughout his entire life However the water gets mudded considering his anti-religious youth, his comments made in private and his desire to weaken the power of the church in Europe. Some comments are unconfirmed but there is a laundry list of Hitler decrying the idiocy of Christian values and believers, as well as viewing the worlds different religions in a very atheistic manner of just being tools to guide a population. https://imgtc.com/i/w0Am32e.jpeg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler Do you believe Hitler believed in God? Or do you think he was just an atheist who used his giant atheist brain to manipulate religious people into doing his bidding? The jury is still out as Historians can't decide if he was Atheist, Christian or neither, but what does CE think?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 04/25/17 6:35:49 AM #3:	Nope, his views were Christian. --- i.imgur.com/OBxVnqJ.png ~ www.azaleasdolls.com/dressupgames/heroine-creator.php i.imgur.com/Pj3WBiE.jpg ~ www.dolldivine.com/sailor-moon-senshi-maker.php <cite>Sayoria posted [p:877855790] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Nope, his views were Christian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 04/25/17 6:36:23 AM #4:	Turtlebread posted... Rawr x3 nuzzles how are you pounces on you you're so warm o3o notices you have a bulge o: someone's happy ;) nuzzles your necky wecky~ murr~ hehehe rubbies your bulgy wolgy you're so big :oooo rubbies more on your bulgy wolgy it doesn't stop growing Â·///Â· kisses you and lickies your necky daddy likies Wtf lol --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:877855803] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Turtlebread posted...</cite> <quote>Rawr x3 nuzzles how are you pounces on you you're so warm o3o notices you have a bulge o: someone's happy ;) nuzzles your necky wecky~ murr~ hehehe rubbies your bulgy wolgy you're so big :oooo rubbies more on your bulgy wolgy it doesn't stop growing Â·///Â· kisses you and lickies your necky daddy likies</quote> Wtf lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 04/25/17 6:44:25 AM #5:	Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist. --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:877855961] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 6:47:50 AM #6:	GOATSLAYER posted... Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist. Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877856024] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist.</quote> Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GOATSLAYER 04/25/17 6:50:40 AM #7:	UnfairRepresent posted... GOATSLAYER posted... Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist. Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires He went on a mission to wipe out other races. It seems like he felt like they were chosen by God to cleanse the world of "those who weren't worthy". --- Hide your kids, hide your goats <cite>GOATSLAYER posted [p:877856071] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist.</quote> Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires</quote> He went on a mission to wipe out other races. It seems like he felt like they were chosen by God to cleanse the world of "those who weren't worthy".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 04/25/17 8:07:33 AM #8:	UnfairRepresent posted... GOATSLAYER posted... Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist. Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires Believing (whether factual or not) certain categories of people having superior genetic attributes doesn't necessarily lead to belief that all people in general shouldn't be treated as equals and with respect as a result. If anything the beliefs such as those of nazi ideology which is fundanentally teleological in nature(I.e. The superior race must cleanse the world of those inferior to them) tend to be religiously motivated(at least in spirit even if not explicitly) where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments. --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:877857823] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATSLAYER posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously not. He believed in a master race which implies that he thought that Germans were chosen or designed by a higher power to be superior to other races. You can't have a belief like that if you're an atheist.</quote> Are you so sure? The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature, based on the soul. Atheists including the famous Richard Dawkins would be the first to point that while Hitler was immoral, he was not wrong. If you intentionally bred fast runners, you will end up with generations of off-spring who are faster at running. If you breed tall people, you will end up with generations of taller off-spring. The idea of people being superior to others on a DNA level, is an idea that rejects every mainstream God. Who has chosen people and his own desires</quote> Believing (whether factual or not) certain categories of people having superior genetic attributes doesn't necessarily lead to belief that all people in general shouldn't be treated as equals and with respect as a result. If anything the beliefs such as those of nazi ideology which is fundanentally teleological in nature(I.e. The superior race must cleanse the world of those inferior to them) tend to be religiously motivated(at least in spirit even if not explicitly) where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/25/17 8:12:37 AM #9:	Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877857969] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mystere 04/25/17 8:13:05 AM #10:	Who gives a shit? <cite>Mystere posted [p:877857987] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 8:13:59 AM #11:	Kazi1212 posted... where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments. I don't think you can square this cirlce --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877858017] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments.</quote> I don't think you can square this cirlce</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 04/25/17 8:17:15 AM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... Kazi1212 posted... where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments. I don't think you can square this cirlce Not in a perfectly logical nor factual way, more like I'm making an overarching statement which does tend to hold some water. The beliefs of atheists are certainly more tautologically oriented then they are teleologically inclined as religious folks. --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:877858091] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> where as atheists have a more tautological view of the world, things are the way they are, no value judgments.</quote> I don't think you can square this cirlce</quote> Not in a perfectly logical nor factual way, more like I'm making an overarching statement which does tend to hold some water. The beliefs of atheists are certainly more tautologically oriented then they are teleologically inclined as religious folks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spincr 04/25/17 8:37:19 AM #13:	He was an occultist if anything. Fucking stupid dumbass polls people make here, sickening. --- In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job. <cite>spincr posted [p:877858665] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>He was an occultist if anything. Fucking stupid dumbass polls people make here, sickening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 04/25/17 9:14:50 AM #14:	UnfairRepresent posted... The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature HAHAHAHA!!! --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:877859816] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature</quote> HAHAHAHA!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 04/25/17 9:16:32 AM #15:	He probably held some form of religious belief, but who cares? I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology, except as one of many rallying points for ethnic Germans. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:877859879] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>He probably held some form of religious belief, but who cares? I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology, except as one of many rallying points for ethnic Germans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/25/17 9:28:10 AM #16:	he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did <cite>Zikten posted [p:877860303] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/25/17 9:29:34 AM #17:	Hitler invented atheism https://twitter.com/search?q=hitler%20invented%20atheism&src=typd --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877860364] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Hitler invented atheism https://twitter.com/search?q=hitler%20invented%20atheism&src=typd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/25/17 9:30:56 AM #18:	"We are fighting the Atheistic movement." He said that. He fucking said that. --- Why Nidhogg 2 gotta be so ugly tho http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:877860413] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>"We are fighting the Atheistic movement." He said that. He fucking said that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 9:52:13 AM #19:	Sinroth posted... I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology, No we can't agree, historians and sociologists can't agree. That's the point --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877861245] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote> I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology,</quote> No we can't agree, historians and sociologists can't agree. That's the point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/25/17 9:58:02 AM #20:	The Jewish Holocaust was not motivated by religion, it was motivated by ethnic resentment and scapegoating poor economic conditions on the Jewish people. The Nazi rhetoric spinned Jews into the oppressors. This is very much unlike the Armenian Holocaust (i.e. Armenian Genocide) that happened 30 years prior and was an attempt on part of the Islamic Ottoman Empire to purge all non-Muslims from Turkey (and a fairly successful attempt, at that). That was clearly religious-based genocide. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877861463] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>The Jewish Holocaust was not motivated by religion, it was motivated by ethnic resentment and scapegoating poor economic conditions on the Jewish people. The Nazi rhetoric spinned Jews into the oppressors. This is very much unlike the Armenian Holocaust (i.e. Armenian Genocide) that happened 30 years prior and was an attempt on part of the Islamic Ottoman Empire to purge all non-Muslims from Turkey (and a fairly successful attempt, at that). That was clearly religious-based genocide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/25/17 10:01:17 AM #21:	Even if Hitler wasn't, his voters were. All he had to do was convince the people that mass genocide was a good thing was to say that God said so. Read any of his speeches and you'll see that most of it's just slobbing God's knob like corn on the cob. --- Why Nidhogg 2 gotta be so ugly tho http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:877861604] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Even if Hitler wasn't, his voters were. All he had to do was convince the people that mass genocide was a good thing was to say that God said so. Read any of his speeches and you'll see that most of it's just slobbing God's knob like corn on the cob.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/25/17 10:04:48 AM #22:	Atheists don't wear these or give them to others to wear. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877861760] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote> Atheists don't wear these or give them to others to wear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever 04/25/17 10:04:57 AM #23:	Dude he talked to an imaginary horse in a closet. --- 50% are just watching, 30% are hating and 20% supporting <cite>ehhwhatever posted [p:877861771] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Dude he talked to an imaginary horse in a closet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/25/17 10:05:57 AM #24:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask? --- Why Nidhogg 2 gotta be so ugly tho http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:877861811] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:02:57 AM #25:	Very split results so far --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877864405] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Very split results so far</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 04/25/17 11:06:22 AM #26:	He believed in the occult so he wasn't an atheist by most people's familiarity with the term. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:877864565] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>He believed in the occult so he wasn't an atheist by most people's familiarity with the term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 04/25/17 11:47:45 AM #27:	Wasn't he also a firm believer that Islam would be a better religion for the Germans than Christianity? --- http://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:877866812] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't he also a firm believer that Islam would be a better religion for the Germans than Christianity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:50:58 AM #28:	Bio1590 posted... Wasn't he also a firm believer that Islam would be a better religion for the Germans than Christianity? According to Albert Speer he said: , "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877866984] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't he also a firm believer that Islam would be a better religion for the Germans than Christianity?</quote> According to Albert Speer he said: , "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/25/17 11:58:29 AM #29:	l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask? Lmao --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877867420] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask?</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/25/17 4:58:10 PM #30:	l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask? It means "God with us". --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877886182] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask?</quote> It means "God with us".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/25/17 5:01:09 PM #31:	ehhwhatever posted... Dude he talked to an imaginary horse in a closet. Really? --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877886370] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>ehhwhatever posted...</cite> <quote>Dude he talked to an imaginary horse in a closet.</quote> Really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
elysdeon 04/25/17 5:06:07 PM #32:	If he wasn't an atheist, he certainly wasn't very religious. He used religion as a prop to achieve the ends he desired (as do a lot of leaders). The overwhelming majority of Germans at the time were definitely not atheists though. --- So you think I don't have a wife? I so do have one and she is HUGE, bigger than yours and way cooler. you just can't see her -Lynx the Dark <cite>elysdeon posted [p:877886671] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>If he wasn't an atheist, he certainly wasn't very religious. He used religion as a prop to achieve the ends he desired (as do a lot of leaders). The overwhelming majority of Germans at the time were definitely not atheists though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BallerXRosetta- 04/25/17 5:19:14 PM #33:	Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own. If he really was an atheist, then that doesn't imply atheists have no morals or some silliness like that. Now for the Christian part: There's a variety of quotes that we can look but they're not consistent. Lots of people like quoting the one about how he likes Christianity. Okay, but then what do we make of the ones that say the opposite like how Christianity is weak compared to religions like Islam? What do we make of the Christians that were sent to concentration camps? Oh, and then there's the whole hating going to church thing. Essentially, he was his own thing so saying that he was Christian/atheist is misleading since people only bring it up to imply that either of these played an important role in shaping his ideology. --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/arigreenwood98 http://i.imgtc.com/CeV2MSV.jpg <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted [p:877887530] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own. If he really was an atheist, then that doesn't imply atheists have no morals or some silliness like that. Now for the Christian part: There's a variety of quotes that we can look but they're not consistent. Lots of people like quoting the one about how he likes Christianity. Okay, but then what do we make of the ones that say the opposite like how Christianity is weak compared to religions like Islam? What do we make of the Christians that were sent to concentration camps? Oh, and then there's the whole hating going to church thing. Essentially, he was his own thing so saying that he was Christian/atheist is misleading since people only bring it up to imply that either of these played an important role in shaping his ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 5:21:08 PM #34:	BallerXRosetta- posted... Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own. This feels like projection --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877887658] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own.</quote> This feels like projection</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BallerXRosetta- 04/25/17 5:22:02 PM #35:	UnfairRepresent posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own. This feels like projection Idgaf what it feels like. It really doesn't matter lol --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/arigreenwood98 http://i.imgtc.com/CeV2MSV.jpg <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted [p:877887716] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter since people just bring this up to lump Hitler onto the side that's not their own.</quote> This feels like projection</quote> Idgaf what it feels like. It really doesn't matter lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syko_Darksyde 04/25/17 5:22:25 PM #36:	I don't know let me go ask him. --- Remember, if you find yourself alone riding through green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium. And you're already dead. <cite>Syko_Darksyde posted [p:877887736] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>I don't know let me go ask him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 04/26/17 2:38:25 AM #37:	UnfairRepresent posted... Sinroth posted... I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology, No we can't agree, historians and sociologists can't agree. That's the point Give me the historiography convincing you of this. I find it pretty straightforward to claim that Nazism and ethnic nationalism were far more important facets of Hitler and his politics. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:877919019] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote> I'm sure we can all agree that religion played an extremely minor role in his ideology,</quote> No we can't agree, historians and sociologists can't agree. That's the point</quote> Give me the historiography convincing you of this. I find it pretty straightforward to claim that Nazism and ethnic nationalism were far more important facets of Hitler and his politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/26/17 2:40:49 AM #38:	He was a Grade-A Freemason, just like the rest of the Theosophist club from which the NAZI party sprang out of. --- Leaving GameFAQs in 5 days, thank you for the memories <3 https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:877919076] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>He was a Grade-A Freemason, just like the rest of the Theosophist club from which the NAZI party sprang out of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 04/26/17 2:42:48 AM #39:	Zikten posted... he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did this --- http://i.imgur.com/K9jfKpU.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:877919136] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did</quote> this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukleen 04/26/17 2:43:17 AM #40:	FlashOfLight posted... He was a Grade-A Freemason --- no. <cite>Nukleen posted [p:877919150] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>FlashOfLight posted...</cite> <quote>He was a Grade-A Freemason</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funcoland 04/26/17 3:00:27 AM #41:	Mal_Fet posted... Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies No. While it can be argued the Vatican could have done more, to say they supported Nazi ideals is historically wrong. What could be done was limited, especially since Rome was under the control of facist Italy. --- NNID: MisterNoOne \| PSN: The_Mistled <cite>Funcoland posted [p:877919587] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies</quote> No. While it can be argued the Vatican could have done more, to say they supported Nazi ideals is historically wrong. What could be done was limited, especially since Rome was under the control of facist Italy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/27/17 5:42:20 PM #42:	Funcoland posted... Mal_Fet posted... Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies No. While it can be argued the Vatican could have done more, to say they supported Nazi ideals is historically wrong. What could be done was limited, especially since Rome was under the control of facist Italy. They praised the fuck out of Hitler though --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878026837] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funcoland posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't the Vatican fully support his anti-Jewish policies</quote> No. While it can be argued the Vatican could have done more, to say they supported Nazi ideals is historically wrong. What could be done was limited, especially since Rome was under the control of facist Italy.</quote> They praised the fuck out of Hitler though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/27/17 5:46:30 PM #43:	l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask? LOOOL Oh god --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:878027111] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote></quote> No I don't have any mittens, why do you ask?</quote> LOOOL Oh god</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iosifsvoboda 04/27/17 5:47:34 PM #44:	MakoReizei posted... Zikten posted... he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did this This --- ^_^ <cite>iosifsvoboda posted [p:878027176] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>he was a pagan. he believed in the germanic gods. there are reports of pagan rituals that his officers did</quote> this</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 04/27/17 5:47:38 PM #45:	fascism is historically a mix of atheism and theology where the state becomes essentially God while also not being God and rejects all other religion we can see this in North Korea where you cannot pray to God you can thank glorious leader but it isn't a religion in NK, it is just atheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche Juche (Korean: 주체, lit. 'subject'; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually left untranslated,[1] or translated as "self-reliance", is the official state ideology of North Korea, described by the government as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought".[2] It says that an individual is "the master of his destiny",[3] that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction", and that by becoming a self-reliant and strong nation one can achieve true socialism.[3] of course the Nazi did believe in the occult since they dabbled in it but they did not believe in God --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:878027182] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>fascism is historically a mix of atheism and theology where the state becomes essentially God while also not being God and rejects all other religion we can see this in North Korea where you cannot pray to God you can thank glorious leader but it isn't a religion in NK, it is just atheism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche <quote>Juche (Korean: 주체, lit. 'subject'; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually left untranslated,[1] or translated as "self-reliance", is the official state ideology of North Korea, described by the government as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought".[2] It says that an individual is "the master of his destiny",[3] that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction", and that by becoming a self-reliant and strong nation one can achieve true socialism.[3]</quote> of course the Nazi did believe in the occult since they dabbled in it but they did not believe in God</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 04/27/17 5:55:55 PM #46:	He was a deedist --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:878027750] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>He was a deedist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 5:57:54 PM #47:	Sir Will posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature HAHAHAHA!!! Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878027871] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature</quote> HAHAHAHA!!!</quote> Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/27/17 5:57:57 PM #48:	I really don't think Hitler was the masturbating type. Probably would have been a nicer guy if he was. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:878027873] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote>I really don't think Hitler was the masturbating type. Probably would have been a nicer guy if he was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 04/27/17 5:59:21 PM #49:	Saloonist posted... Sir Will posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature HAHAHAHA!!! Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised. the idea that God died and bled for everyone from the poor to the rich and the low class to the high class does indeed show equality also that everyone gets to heaven the same exact way and their status has no bearing on it is also equality but that is Christianity pagan religions on the other hand have merit basis like Norse was the greatest warriors got to their heaven --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:878027985] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature</quote> HAHAHAHA!!!</quote> Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised.</quote> the idea that God died and bled for everyone from the poor to the rich and the low class to the high class does indeed show equality also that everyone gets to heaven the same exact way and their status has no bearing on it is also equality but that is Christianity pagan religions on the other hand have merit basis like Norse was the greatest warriors got to their heaven</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Saloonist 04/27/17 6:03:44 PM #50:	darkphoenix181 posted... Saloonist posted... Sir Will posted... UnfairRepresent posted... The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature HAHAHAHA!!! Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised. the idea that God died and bled for everyone from the poor to the rich and the low class to the high class does indeed show equality also that everyone gets to heaven the same exact way and their status has no bearing on it is also equality but that is Christianity pagan religions on the other hand have merit basis like Norse was the greatest warriors got to their heaven How often were women among these warriors? But admittedly I don't know much about the Norse religion. Among the Greeks and Romans, the life of a slave was nothing. Slaves were by their very position inferior beings whose lives were worthless. Even when Christians kept the institution of slavery, the fundamental equality recognized between a slave and an emperor was accepted. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:878028270] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>The belief in equality between people tends to be religious in nature</quote> HAHAHAHA!!!</quote> Look at notions of equality before and after Jesus. You might be surprised.</quote> the idea that God died and bled for everyone from the poor to the rich and the low class to the high class does indeed show equality also that everyone gets to heaven the same exact way and their status has no bearing on it is also equality but that is Christianity pagan religions on the other hand have merit basis like Norse was the greatest warriors got to their heaven</quote> How often were women among these warriors? But admittedly I don't know much about the Norse religion. Among the Greeks and Romans, the life of a slave was nothing. Slaves were by their very position inferior beings whose lives were worthless. Even when Christians kept the institution of slavery, the fundamental equality recognized between a slave and an emperor was accepted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 04/27/17 6:04:13 PM #51:	UnfairRepresent posted... I really don't think Hitler was the masturbating type. Probably would have been a nicer guy if he was. He should have given it a try --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot?" V-E-G-Y http://i.imgur.com/AqR3aeX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vvuUXpp.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:878028310] in Was Adolf ... [t:75276349]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I really don't think Hitler was the masturbating type. Probably would have been a nicer guy if he was.</quote> He should have given it a try</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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