Current Events > 19 y/o Black Girls face 33 YEARS for a HATE CRIME of Torching a TRUMP SIGN!!

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mrduckbear
04/20/17 10:21:28 PM
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Do you think this is a "hate crime"?


19 y/o's Joy Shuford and D'Asia Perry face 33 YEARS in Prison for a HATE CRIME because they TRIED to burn down a Donald Trump sign outside a store in Maryland with a car cigarette lighter!!

They're accused of torching the sign in Princess Anne as it's reported that D'Asia was spotted on camera and Joy turned herself in afteer.

They initially planned on taking down the sign but when they couldn't, she out of the car and tried torching it instead

Joy said she tried to rip it down but it was screwed in and was tough to pull down and returned to the car and grabbed a lighter to try to set it on fire.

They are charged with second-degree arson and committing a hate crime.

Princess Anne police said "The intentional burning of these political signs, along with the beliefs, religious views, and race of this political affiliation directly coincides with the victim"

The outragous claim was backed by the chief fire marshall said the arson was racially motivated as it was a "discrimination or malice toward a particular group or someone's belief"

They were both released on 20,000 bond as the sign was near a shopping centre and fire spread to a nearby field causing 800 in damage.

Jamie Wink who's father owned the store where the sign was located said his dad put it up because "it's been a pretty good attention-getter" and that his family supported Trump but didn't take it down after the November vote.

Crybaby Jamie said the store sells guns and hunting gear and said what these girls did was RACIST towards WHITE PEOPLE and wants them to get the FULL SENTENCE!!

Do you think this is a "hate crime"? let's see what people think

D'Asia -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/20/18/3F6D4D2A00000578-0-image-a-112_1492710445410.jpg

Joy -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/20/18/3F6D4D3100000578-0-image-m-111_1492710438579.jpg

The Racist Sign -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/20/21/3F6E163400000578-4430062-image-a-1_1492718923592.jpg
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Monday
04/20/17 10:24:59 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
The Racist Sign -


where's the racist sign fam. You can't point to something and say "this is racist" then not have anything racist there.
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glitteringfairy
04/20/17 10:26:34 PM
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Not long enough if you ask me
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Freddie_Mercury
04/20/17 10:30:17 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Not long enough if you ask me



that's what she said
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Dragonite150
04/20/17 10:30:32 PM
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33 years for Arson Vandalism AND a "hate crime"
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OctilIery
04/20/17 10:31:02 PM
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Arson charges will stick and will likely be serious, but lol those hate crime charges aren't going anywhere, they'll be dropped fast.
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Returning_CEmen
04/20/17 10:32:21 PM
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Sounds a bit excessive.
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FightingGames
04/20/17 10:36:27 PM
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fairest of the nexus
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XmasPikachu
04/20/17 10:37:00 PM
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how the fuck is that a hate crime?

re-arranging POC faces: OK LOL

Attacking a racist sign: HATE CRIME!!!!
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_PandaMaster_
04/20/17 10:37:40 PM
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Yes, I believe this qualifies as a hate crime as described by the police department. I personally believe that the sentencing is a reasonable sentencing for the combination of arson and hate crime.
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smallpoxx
04/20/17 10:38:48 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Not long enough if you ask me



that's what she said

Lol

Nobody gets 33 years for burning a bit of plastic. There must be more to it, but I don't give a ****.
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DifferentialEquation
04/20/17 10:40:32 PM
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33 years is too lenient of a sentence for attempting to destroy Donald Trump paraphernalia.
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LJRENEGADE
04/20/17 10:47:23 PM
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33 years is a bit excessive, but starting a fire in a wooded area can be really catastrophic. The sign isn't racist. What she did might be considered a hate crime depending on the state I think, but still, that amount of time is too much.
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daftpunk_mk5
04/20/17 10:48:13 PM
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Good
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SideshowBob311
04/20/17 10:50:19 PM
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So we're using the new definition of "racist" here? The one that essentially means "anything a black person doesn't like or doesn't work in their favor"?
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Bloodychess
04/20/17 10:50:23 PM
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smallpoxx posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Not long enough if you ask me



that's what she said

Lol

Nobody gets 33 years for burning a bit of plastic. There must be more to it, but I don't give a ****.


There's tons of foliage around that sign. Any person with an understanding of how fire works knows what would happen. And that did happen. I'd crack down on that shit too
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hyperpowder
04/20/17 10:54:57 PM
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Why would you name your kid D'Asia?
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DifferentialEquation
04/20/17 10:56:12 PM
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LJRENEGADE posted...
33 years is a bit excessive


No it's not, she did it intentionally. Now, let's say the road was slippery and someone lost control of their car and ran over a Trump sign on accident, then I'd agree that a 30 year sentence is a bit excessive. But intentionally destroying Trump paraphernalia should result in either a life sentence or the death penalty.
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MARKINGRAM22
04/20/17 10:57:21 PM
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I'll say it again, hate crimes are dumb. It should just be Arson and destruction of property.
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Zikten
04/20/17 11:04:03 PM
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this is dumb and I voted for Trump. it's just a sign. they probably won't get the full sentence. that's just to scare them. they will get like 6 months or something when all is said and done
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Adzeta_
04/20/17 11:35:58 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
Good

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CommonStar
04/20/17 11:37:39 PM
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33 years of their life? Punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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TheBiggerWiggle
04/20/17 11:50:59 PM
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This is exactly why BLM exists. A white person would never face 30+ years for burning a god damn sign.
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OkSlowbro
04/20/17 11:52:35 PM
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Absolutely fair.
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daftpunk_mk5
04/21/17 9:21:07 AM
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
This is exactly why BLM exists. A white person would never face 30+ years for burning a god damn sign.


You think so? I think if a white person put up a burning cross on a lawn, they would be punished just as harshly. This is equivalent to that.
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
04/21/17 9:25:04 AM
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LOL LOL LOL

I'm sorry but this is a bit too much. Meanwhile there's a bunch of scumbags and pedophiles getting less time for more fucking serious crime. The US is a fucking joke. Fuck all of you who voted in that sensitive prima donna senile orange turd into the seat.
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Ammonitida
04/21/17 9:25:19 AM
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Idiot could have caused a forest fire considering the sign's close proximity to trees.

Throw the book at her and let this be a lesson to the "Resistance". Your evil will be prosecuted!
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awesome999
04/21/17 9:30:47 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
LJRENEGADE posted...
33 years is a bit excessive


No it's not, she did it intentionally. Now, let's say the road was slippery and someone lost control of their car and ran over a Trump sign on accident, then I'd agree that a 30 year sentence is a bit excessive. But intentionally destroying Trump paraphernalia should result in either a life sentence or the death penalty.

Here's a bite
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Melonfarms
04/21/17 9:36:10 AM
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CommonStar posted...
33 years of their life? Punishment doesn't fit the crime.


News always puts the max sentence for the crime they are charged with. My guess is that arson + hate crime with no injury maxes out at 33 years.

Realistically they'll get a slap on the wrist for destruction of property.

Worst case, They'll get charged with arson and get a few years.
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DyingPancake
04/21/17 9:40:00 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
Idiot could have caused a forest fire considering the sign's close proximity to trees.


Yea, I think people are just ignoring this. Their actions could have ended up killing people, animals, and totaling who knows how much in damages
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1NfamousACE_2
04/21/17 9:42:31 AM
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A killer in a road rage incident got 25 years in jail yesterday.
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FaytlessHearts
04/21/17 9:42:46 AM
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_PandaMaster_ posted...
Yes, I believe this qualifies as a hate crime as described by the police department. I personally believe that the sentencing is a reasonable sentencing for the combination of arson and hate crime.

This.
Also, isn't "race" in reference to species? Hmmmmm. So racism means to hate the human race, not a color.
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Iodine
04/21/17 9:44:02 AM
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DyingPancake posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Idiot could have caused a forest fire considering the sign's close proximity to trees.


Yea, I think people are just ignoring this. Their actions could have ended up killing people, animals, and totaling who knows how much in damages

No one has a problem with the Arson and property damage charges tho. It is the Hate crime part which has people up in arms.
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The Eternal Flame
04/21/17 9:45:32 AM
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Monday posted...
mrduckbear posted...
The Racist Sign -


where's the racist sign fam. You can't point to something and say "this is racist" then not have anything racist there.

LOL why not? The left has been doing exactly that for YEARS.
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MrMallard
04/21/17 9:45:54 AM
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Torching a Trump sign is a hate crime and racist towards white people? Really?

The closest this comes to being a hate crime is if you equate a Trump sign to a wooden cross on someone's lawn. It was a shit-head move, the fire damaged a bunch of other property and that's fucked up - they should be charged for arson and vandalism.

But following Trump is not a lifestyle or a way of life that you should align yourself with to the point of long-lasting religious or cultural symbols. Trump worship started recently - people liked him, he was fun to laugh at or generally an alright guy to people, but this fervor about him started less than two years ago. He can't be a cultural icon on the same level as religious or cultural iconography, and I can't honestly believe that people feel like a piece of their cultural identity is under attack after less than two years of Trump having a "culture" around him.

Burning a cross on someone's lawn? That's a hate crime. Re-arranging someone's menorah decoration to look like a swastika? That's a hate crime. Kicking in someone's head while you call them racial slurs and tell them to get out of your country? That's a hate crime. This was a shitty act of vandalism that went too far, because some people disagreed with a political message. The vandals should be charged for the damage and learn a lesson about letting some things lie - picking their battles so they don't burn a fucking building down, for example - but it's fucking laughable that people see this as an attack on white culture and are calling for 33 years in jail over it. Trump has a cult of personality about him, but he's not a culturally ingrained symbol to the degree of the holy cross, menorah or American flag and defacing his shit isn't a hate crime. It is vandalism, and should be punished, but it's not a hate crime.
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FaytlessHearts
04/21/17 9:47:49 AM
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Just to be clear, the sign was on this guys lawn right? Soooo, if anyone burned anything on his property regardless of religion or color or whatever bs, it would indeed be considered a hate crime.
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MrMallard
04/21/17 9:49:45 AM
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FaytlessHearts posted...
Just to be clear, the sign was on this guys lawn right? Soooo, if anyone burned anything on his property regardless of religion or color or whatever bs, it would indeed be considered a hate crime.

It was outside a store in Maryland.
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FaytlessHearts
04/21/17 9:52:10 AM
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MrMallard posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Just to be clear, the sign was on this guys lawn right? Soooo, if anyone burned anything on his property regardless of religion or color or whatever bs, it would indeed be considered a hate crime.

It was outside a store in Maryland.

I see, nevermind then. If it was on someones personal property that's a little different. I feel like had this been a white person burning an obama sign though, people would be in the same exact uproar. I'd put money down on it. That's the sad thing with the country.
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myzz7
04/21/17 9:53:22 AM
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funny to think if that if the criminal just stole the sign it wouldn't be construed as a hate crime. petty theft misdemeanor if caught.
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Skurvy_1
04/21/17 10:07:39 AM
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Duckbear topic.
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Onetrueking
04/21/17 10:12:32 AM
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So fair it hurts. Want to act like a child and burn a sign here you go. Have fun for 33 years little girl.

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Ving_Rhames
04/21/17 10:17:50 AM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
This is equivalent to that.


It's literally not, at all. LOL.
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awesome999
04/21/17 10:39:28 AM
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DyingPancake posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Idiot could have caused a forest fire considering the sign's close proximity to trees.


Yea, I think people are just ignoring this. Their actions could have ended up killing people, animals, and totaling who knows how much in damages

When was the last time someone got 33 years for a 'could have'?

That's not how the law works. People are punished for that they did, not for what 'could have' happened

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srad1292
04/21/17 10:47:25 AM
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Definitely should be charged and convicted with arson. I don't quite know why burning the sign should be considered a hate crime.
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CrimsonAngeI
04/21/17 10:48:57 AM
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Having a negative opinion of Trump will soon be a hate crime.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/21/17 10:49:09 AM
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It is a hate crime but not for being racist. It's a hate crime because of someone's beliefs.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/21/17 10:49:46 AM
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srad1292 posted...
Definitely should be charged and convicted with arson. I don't quite know why burning the sign should be considered a hate crime.



Using intimidation to infringe on 1st amendment protected rights and beliefs.
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DepreceV2
04/21/17 10:50:47 AM
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Almost 50% of you think this is a hate crime? LOL! This board is pathetic!
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AltonBrownFan
04/21/17 10:51:18 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
srad1292 posted...
Definitely should be charged and convicted with arson. I don't quite know why burning the sign should be considered a hate crime.



Using intimidation to infringe on 1st amendment protected rights and beliefs.

Nope.
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