Current Events > What exactly is worse about Persona 1-3 compared to 4?

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HaVeNII7
04/19/17 12:41:11 PM
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I'm playing through Golden for the first time and DAMN is it good. Wish I got into this series sooner.

I've been told I may not enjoy 1 or 2 though and that 3 is much worse as well. What's so different about them?
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BatmanVonDoom
04/19/17 12:42:22 PM
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3 is better than 4 though.

1 and 2 are considered worse by some as it is closer to SMT and has no social links.

2 is still pretty good tho.
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Irony
04/19/17 12:42:36 PM
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1 and 2 are dated as fuck and the story of 2 is convoluted BS. In 3 you can't control your allies which is its only real problem.
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drunkmuggle
04/19/17 12:46:31 PM
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3 is better than 4 and so far better than 5
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BatmanVonDoom
04/19/17 12:46:39 PM
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Irony posted...
1 and 2 are dated as fuck and the story of 2 is convoluted BS. In 3 you can't control your allies which is its only real problem.

Persona 3 Portable has 4's combat so you can control allies.
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Irony
04/19/17 12:50:14 PM
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Yeah but it ruins everything else
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BatmanVonDoom
04/19/17 12:50:59 PM
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Irony posted...
Yeah but it ruins everything else

That's funny because it's the best version.
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Irony
04/19/17 12:51:40 PM
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Lmao
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Mernardi
04/19/17 12:52:07 PM
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Do you guys think they'll do a P3 remaster?
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Irony
04/19/17 12:52:40 PM
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No
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Leanaunfurled
04/19/17 12:53:12 PM
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P3 has a worse cast but better everything else.
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Balrog0
04/19/17 12:53:17 PM
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I liked the story and characters in 4 much more
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GOATSLAYER
04/19/17 12:53:25 PM
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Most people agree that 3 and 4 are sprung the same level. I personally think that 4 is a lot better than 3. 3 is too tedious because there's one huge dungeon (it's a tower) and all you do is run up the flights of the tower endlessly. Almost all of the characters are unlikable or boring except for like 3 of them. The villains are a joke. And the social links aren't as interesting as the ones in 4. You can't directly control the actions of your party members. It has the best soundtrack out of any of the games though.
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FighterStreet
04/19/17 12:53:32 PM
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persona dramatically improves with each installment

P4 has been highly regarded forever, but now that the series is becoming mainstream trolls start to appear

The gameplay of P4 is dramatically superior to P3 (combat, dungeons. this is even moreso if you play FES or the original release instead of P3P) I think it's pretty inarguable that the CHARACTERS and setting of P4 are superior as well, but i understand having an attachment to characters from either p3 or p4 for whatever reason

whether or not the story is better is entirely subjective.

P2 and P1 are genuinely terrible games, especially if you compare them to RPGS that were released near the same time (CT, FF 6, 7)
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HaVeNII7
04/19/17 12:54:07 PM
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BatmanVonDoom posted...
3 is better than 4 though.

1 and 2 are considered worse by some as it is closer to SMT and has no social links.

2 is still pretty good tho.

No Social Links actually does sound a lot worse off. They really add a lot to the different characters you interact with.

Irony posted...
1 and 2 are dated as fuck and the story of 2 is convoluted BS. In 3 you can't control your allies which is its only real problem.

How are they dated exactly? Other than no links.
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meestermj
04/19/17 12:54:16 PM
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BatmanVonDoom posted...
3 is better than 4 though.

This. P3P was my favorite, but P5 is slowly overtaking it.
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GOATSLAYER
04/19/17 12:55:00 PM
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HaVeNII7 posted...
BatmanVonDoom posted...
3 is better than 4 though.

1 and 2 are considered worse by some as it is closer to SMT and has no social links.

2 is still pretty good tho.

No Social Links actually does sound a lot worse off. They really add a lot to the different characters you interact with.

Irony posted...
1 and 2 are dated as fuck and the story of 2 is convoluted BS. In 3 you can't control your allies which is its only real problem.

How are they dated exactly? Other than no links.

Go watch a walkthrough of them and you'll understand immediately.
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Balrog0
04/19/17 12:55:05 PM
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omfg why does my gf have an xbone instead of a ps4

stupid fuckin halo fangirl
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yusiko
04/19/17 12:55:48 PM
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Persona 2 let you go gay while the other persona games didnt
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HaVeNII7
04/19/17 1:01:25 PM
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Also for the peeps saying they're much worse, do you think they're good enough for a first playthrough at least? I mean they're only $15. I just don't wanna spend it and immediately hate the game lol
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Irony
04/19/17 1:02:45 PM
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You should watch gameplay vids of 1 and 2 first
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GOATSLAYER
04/19/17 1:02:59 PM
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HaVeNII7 posted...
Also for the peeps saying they're much worse, do you think they're good enough for a first playthrough at least? I mean they're only $15. I just don't wanna spend it and immediately hate the game lol

3,4 and 5 are worth playing. I've heard good things about 2. Everyone agrees that 1 is garbage.
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pauIie
04/19/17 1:17:19 PM
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Depending on your preferences, you might like 2/3 more than 4. They aren't worse, per se, aside from technical shit like not being able to control your party in 3.
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FluttershyPony
04/19/17 1:19:05 PM
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p1/2 = GRIND GRIND GRIND GRIND RANDOM BATTLES IT TAKES A GODAMN ETERNITY

p3 = AI allies, insane RNG, auto game over if main char dies (ie rng death spells, get hit by a single weakness, then get hit by it again on the enemy's extra turn). Tartarus is a damn slog.
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Irony
04/19/17 1:29:32 PM
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What in 3 has insane RNG?
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drunkmuggle
04/19/17 1:32:43 PM
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what Fluttershy listed is persona 3-5 though so that's just an issue with persona/smt as a series

I think I'm the only one who liked tartarus
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OpheliaAdenade
04/19/17 1:34:33 PM
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I think they're all good :o except for the demon negotiations in 1 and 2...
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yusiko
04/19/17 2:47:00 PM
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1is the worst in the series
2 has a good plot but it's gameplay isn't great.

3 4 and 5 are all good

OK just found out that if a shadow asks what kinda girl you like you can tell it that you like men so you can go gay in this game you just can't date dudes
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Irony
04/19/17 2:49:09 PM
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People hate on 1 too much
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GiftedACIII
04/19/17 2:54:27 PM
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GOATSLAYER posted...
Most people agree that 3 and 4 are sprung the same level. I personally think that 4 is a lot better than 3. 3 is too tedious because there's one huge dungeon (it's a tower) and all you do is run up the flights of the tower endlessly. Almost all of the characters are unlikable or boring except for like 3 of them. The villains are a joke. And the social links aren't as interesting as the ones in 4. You can't directly control the actions of your party members. It has the best soundtrack out of any of the games though.


o_0 what's your main? None of the posters I was guessing you were could type this coherently nor would play Persona.
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Blue_Dream87
04/19/17 2:54:55 PM
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1 is simply bad

2 doesn't have the social sim/visual novel aspect and plays more like mainline SMT. The combat can be... Frustrating and basically comes down to fusing attacks and dealing with a clunky turn system. Negotiations are basically "Keep a guide up while you play" deal. The story and characters, however, are top fucking notch. Personally I prefer them to 3 and 4, but they're more niche.

3 is kinda iffy since the best version has a significant graphic & interactive downgrade. Story is much darker, characters aren't as much friends as they are people thrown into a similar situation.

I'd say 2 > 3 > 4, they're all good in a way and I'd suggest playing them all (besides 1, fuck 1)
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OpheliaAdenade
04/19/17 3:37:12 PM
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I thought the story in 1 was pretty good though. It laid the groundwork for a lot of stuff to come in the series. :u And I actually liked the first person dungeons.
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metralo
04/19/17 3:39:50 PM
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3 is still very good

1 and 2 are absurdly outdated.
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