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Akagami_Shanks
04/20/17 9:24:54 PM
#152:


that was one of my gripes, the team never really felt like they were friends

it was just 24/7 phantom thieves. Like the only thing keeping them together was being phantom thieves. When they didn't have a target they pretty much broke up and did their own thing until a new one was found, and even on vacations they would spend the whole trip talking about being phantom thieves

They even have a fight about it, how people were just acting for their own motivations instead of a team motivation
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DirkDiggles
04/20/17 10:01:49 PM
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Mernardi
04/20/17 10:17:18 PM
#154:


DirkDiggles posted...
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She then immediately says "just kidding".

I don't really care for the doctor tbh.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/20/17 10:36:15 PM
#155:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
that was one of my gripes, the team never really felt like they were friends


I thought they all felt pretty tight. Especially Ryuji. Ryuji is the best bro Persona has had so far.

They do talk about being the Phantom Thieves a bit to much though.
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Shah138
04/20/17 11:03:23 PM
#156:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
that was one of my gripes, the team never really felt like they were friends

I think I see what you mean. You have a lot less people who are your actual classmates, and you're always texting. It seemed like a more tight knit group when they actually lived together like in P3 or always met up at Junes. The shifting hideouts and group texts from home detracted from that.
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I Like Toast
04/20/17 11:04:30 PM
#157:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Ryuji is the best bro Persona has had so far.


you need to be less obvious when you troll.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/20/17 11:19:43 PM
#158:


What's wrong with Ryuji? Dude is awesome.
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Blue_Dream87
04/21/17 12:17:23 AM
#159:


50 hours in, got to the 5th Palace and ugh. Some parts of the story are great, but some are annoying

I'm pretty sure Okumura is a pawn of whoever the SIU director is working for and a fall guy. The Principals "suicide" and knowing there's some people running around abusing the metaverse is a nice shift. However, the Hawaii trip was fucking horrible. Get roomed with the worst character ever and the whole trip amounted to "Whoa, Americans know about the Phantom Thieves too?". Then Mona and his angtsy bitch fit pissed me off, but it did make way for Harus intro which I loved.

I might be booting Ann off my lineup for Haru, I'm digging her so far.
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Alucard188
04/21/17 1:14:22 AM
#160:


Shah138 posted...
I'm really enjoying it but there does seem to be a lot of railroading. I know a lot of people end up not being able to return DVDs on time because the game just forces you to keep doing day after day with not real gameplay between since Morgana forces you to go to bed.


Yeah, that certainly is a problem. I know the guide I'm following has made absolutely no mention of renting DVDs, which is likely for this reason.
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Blue_Dream87
04/21/17 1:17:29 AM
#161:


Alucard188 posted...
Shah138 posted...
I'm really enjoying it but there does seem to be a lot of railroading. I know a lot of people end up not being able to return DVDs on time because the game just forces you to keep doing day after day with not real gameplay between since Morgana forces you to go to bed.


Yeah, that certainly is a problem. I know the guide I'm following has made absolutely no mention of renting DVDs, which is likely for this reason.


It's not like you actually pay the late fee
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 1:18:22 AM
#162:


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
that was one of my gripes, the team never really felt like they were friends


I thought they all felt pretty tight. Especially Ryuji. Ryuji is the best bro Persona has had so far.

They do talk about being the Phantom Thieves a bit to much though.

eh, all they do is text you about being worried, and make fun of Ryuji. If they aren't talking about being phantom thieves then it's about studying for exams. The cast never really grows as a group like SEES and IT did, and it's more of "People who have their own reasons for changing hearts deciding when it's convenient to do so, whether for popularity or to cover up an insecurity"
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Blue_Inigo
04/21/17 1:19:28 AM
#163:


October is just bombshell after bombshell. Goddamn.

Even Sojiro knows we're the Phantom Thieves!
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Alucard188
04/21/17 1:23:15 AM
#164:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
50 hours in, got to the 5th Palace and ugh. Some parts of the story are great, but some are annoying

I'm pretty sure Okumura is a pawn of whoever the SIU director is working for and a fall guy. The Principals "suicide" and knowing there's some people running around abusing the metaverse is a nice shift. However, the Hawaii trip was fucking horrible. Get roomed with the worst character ever and the whole trip amounted to "Whoa, Americans know about the Phantom Thieves too?". Then Mona and his angtsy bitch fit pissed me off, but it did make way for Harus intro which I loved.

I might be booting Ann off my lineup for Haru, I'm digging her so far.


Yeah, the Hawaii trip wasn't all that great. I'm not a super huge fan of how the Phantom Thieves take up so much of the popular discourse in the game. It's all anybody talks about at this point, though that's by design. Honestly, Ryuji irritated me quite a lot around this time. He's always "Phantom Thieves this, Phantom Thieves that.", lacks any self-awareness whatsoever, and is especially condescending to Mona. I haven't used him since I got Yusuke as a party member.

Also, Ann is a godsend in palace 5. There are a number of enemies weak to Agi, and with her naturally high magic, was able to make short work of them. I used Haru, Ann, MC, and Makoto in that dungeon exclusively. You need to spread the SP around in that dungeon, and those 4 encompassed all of the major weaknesses you'll find. Bring Mitra or another persona with bless attacks, too; there's an enemy that is made much easier for it.

Akagami_Shanks posted...
Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
that was one of my gripes, the team never really felt like they were friends


I thought they all felt pretty tight. Especially Ryuji. Ryuji is the best bro Persona has had so far.

They do talk about being the Phantom Thieves a bit to much though.

eh, all they do is text you about being worried, and make fun of Ryuji. If they aren't talking about being phantom thieves then it's about studying for exams. The cast never really grows as a group like SEES and IT did, and it's more of "People who have their own reasons for changing hearts deciding when it's convenient to do so, whether for popularity or to cover up an insecurity"


Really? I felt they were more close knit in Persona 5 than in Persona 3. I mean, in Persona 3 they're all just sitting around in the communal room, doing absolutely nothing other. There are the just there for the common bond of being in SEES. I never got any bit of friendship out of them, like they actually spent time together. They were all clearly depicted as friends in P4, though.
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XplodnPnguins92
04/21/17 1:26:05 AM
#165:


is anyone following the 100% max guide on their first playthrough?
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Blue_Dream87
04/21/17 1:26:36 AM
#166:


Alucard188 posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...
50 hours in, got to the 5th Palace and ugh. Some parts of the story are great, but some are annoying

I'm pretty sure Okumura is a pawn of whoever the SIU director is working for and a fall guy. The Principals "suicide" and knowing there's some people running around abusing the metaverse is a nice shift. However, the Hawaii trip was fucking horrible. Get roomed with the worst character ever and the whole trip amounted to "Whoa, Americans know about the Phantom Thieves too?". Then Mona and his angtsy bitch fit pissed me off, but it did make way for Harus intro which I loved.

I might be booting Ann off my lineup for Haru, I'm digging her so far.


Yeah, the Hawaii trip wasn't all that great. I'm not a super huge fan of how the Phantom Thieves take up so much of the popular discourse in the game. It's all anybody talks about at this point, though that's by design. Honestly, Ryuji irritated me quite a lot around this time. He's always "Phantom Thieves this, Phantom Thieves that.", lacks any self-awareness whatsoever, and is especially condescending to Mona. I haven't used him since I got Yusuke as a party member.

Also, Ann is a godsend in palace 5. There are a number of enemies weak to Agi, and with her naturally high magic, was able to make short work of them. I used Haru, Ann, MC, and Makoto in that dungeon exclusively. You need to spread the SP around in that dungeon, and those 4 encompassed all of the major weaknesses you'll find. Bring Mitra or another persona with bless attacks, too; there's an enemy that is made much easier for it.


Yeah I mean, 95% of the conversation is "omg Phantom Thieves are awesome!" with 5% omg Principal killed himself, aren't the Phantom Thieves so cool?.

And damn, I might copy your setup for palace 5. Right now I'm running Ann, Yusuke and Makoto. I got the SP Adhesives so SP isn't that bad, and I fused a mean Mitra at the end of the last palace. Thanks for the tips.
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Alucard188
04/21/17 1:27:38 AM
#167:


XplodnPnguins92 posted...
is anyone following the 100% max guide on their first playthrough?


I'm following the spoiler-free walkthrough because I don't have the time to invest in multiple playthroughs in a video game nowadays. I'd much rather get as much as I can in one playthrough, so I can enjoy this story to its fullest.
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coolpal23
04/21/17 1:33:46 AM
#168:


How do I drop teammates?

I'm bout to grind money, and i dont know how to get rid of these extras
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Alucard188
04/21/17 1:43:03 AM
#169:


coolpal23 posted...
How do I drop teammates?

I'm bout to grind money, and i dont know how to get rid of these extras


You can either go back to the beginning of Mementos or the palace you're in and talk to the party members you want to swap in, or you can do it via the stats screen. There should be an option there to do so.
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JE19426
04/21/17 1:44:05 AM
#170:


Alucard188 posted...
is especially condescending to Mona.


And Mona always treats Ryuji like crap.

coolpal23 posted...
How do I drop teammates?

I'm bout to grind money, and i dont know how to get rid of these extras


Go into stats highlight the character you want to remove from your party and press square.
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Alucard188
04/21/17 2:14:09 AM
#171:


JE19426 posted...
And Mona always treats Ryuji like crap.


Ryuji deserves it though. He has the subtlety and self-awareness of a trash can. You're supposed to be PHANTOM THIEVES; quit banging on about it so everyone can hear you. I'll take Kanji over him any day; at least Kanji has no pretentions.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 3:14:55 AM
#172:


Sojiro's S Link is surprisingly heartwarming >_>
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Irony
04/21/17 3:15:46 AM
#173:


Futaba: "I hunger"
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 3:19:31 AM
#174:


I can't remember how I got moon rank 10
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Alucard188
04/21/17 3:20:51 AM
#175:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
I can't remember how I got moon rank 10


Spent enough time with Mishima after clearing Mementos requests.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 3:21:46 AM
#176:


so basically I have to get a job and do that stupid request
fuck
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Freddie_Mercury
04/21/17 3:27:29 AM
#177:


who was the genius that decided backtracking through a dungeon was good game design
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Alucard188
04/21/17 3:30:44 AM
#178:


What dungeon do you have to backtrack through? None of palaces 1 through 5 require any backtracking.
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Freddie_Mercury
04/21/17 3:42:37 AM
#179:


The 6th <_<
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Irony
04/21/17 3:44:16 AM
#180:


If by backtrack you mean fast travel, sure
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 4:07:12 AM
#181:


10/7
current status (non story s links)
Priestess - Maxed
Emperor - Maxed
Hierophant - Maxed
Lovers - Maxed
Chariot - Maxed
Hermit - 4
Fortune - Maxed
Strength - Maxed
Hanged Man - 7
Death - Maxed
Temperance - Maxed
Devil - 5
Tower - 6
Star - 9
Moon - Max
Sun - Max


think I'm doing pretty well >_>
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Alucard188
04/21/17 4:10:57 AM
#182:


This is your second playthrough, yeah?
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Terra-enforcer
04/21/17 4:10:58 AM
#183:


Just saw the traitor scene and stuff. It was incredibly underwhelming tbqh. I stayed up to 4:00 AM EST when I have a 8:00 am class tomorrow for this too lol.

Are there any more big reveals left at all between now and the ending of the game? Aside from the Morgana stuff. I'm totally spoiling myself on that right now so this won't feel like a complete waste
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 4:13:25 AM
#184:


yes
to both posts
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Terra-enforcer
04/21/17 4:13:59 AM
#185:


@Akagami_Shanks posted...
yes
to both posts

What about after the edit?
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 4:15:34 AM
#186:


Terra-enforcer posted...
@Akagami_Shanks posted...
yes
to both posts

What about after the edit?

yes

the traitor isn't even a "reveal" because it's obvious to anyone with a brain, not even the cast was surprised and even planned for it
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Terra-enforcer
04/21/17 4:23:08 AM
#187:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
@Akagami_Shanks posted...
yes
to both posts

What about after the edit?

yes

the traitor isn't even a "reveal" because it's obvious to anyone with a brain, not even the cast was surprised and even planned for it

Exactly. Which is why I'm lowkey kinda pissed that I stayed up so late for such a lame "reveal" smh

Hopefully whatever's left will be enough to make up for this. Doesn't take away this awesome experience and my overall enjoyment of the game, but it was a real bummer. Especially since I didn't even P4spoilerssuspect Adachi for the longest time, and his character wasn't even set up all that well in hindsight. Akechi is flat out hamfisted in the player's face, he's not with the rest of the team on any promotional art, and he's the only "member" to want the Phantom Thieves to disband, among about 20 other blatantly obvious tells

Ugh, I don't mean to dwell on this, but wow was that BAD.
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Leanaunfurled
04/21/17 4:26:35 AM
#188:


Yeah don't worry, the best plot twist is saved for 12/24 with the final boss. I fucking love it.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 4:33:48 AM
#189:


almost forgot how much time you wasted in October...
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 4:38:05 AM
#190:


also the phone is probably the worst invention of all time

all they do is repeat dialogue they discussed in the 10 minute sequence beforehand, and then dsicuss it again the next day

we're not stupid, we know the group is worried the first time, we don't need a reminder every day!
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ArthasReborn
04/21/17 4:51:43 AM
#191:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
also the phone is probably the worst invention of all time

all they do is repeat dialogue they discussed in the 10 minute sequence beforehand, and then dsicuss it again the next day

we're not stupid, we know the group is worried the first time, we don't need a reminder every day!

"Do you think their heart really changed?"

>Let's believe.
>I dunno.

And repeat for every other day until the deadline.

Also, second playthrough gives way too much time. I didn't plan for anything at all and maxed out all links, read all books, beat all games, and went to the gym so many times that my HP and SP only increased by 1 each time I went, and still had like two weeks left over with nothing to do. People complain about days being taken on the first run all the time, but if they weren't, I'd literally just spend entire weeks going right home and sleeping.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/21/17 4:58:05 AM
#192:


12/24 I'm so happy that Igor has a voice actually resembling his old one now. Wish they got his old voice actor back, but this will work.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 5:24:15 AM
#193:


get you a girl that's as thirsty for you as Haru is

You could tell her that her father is a rotten piece of shit and she'll giggle
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Muflaggin
04/21/17 5:52:47 AM
#194:


Mernardi posted...
DirkDiggles posted...
o_O

fS7SJgT

She then immediately says "just kidding".

I don't really care for the doctor tbh.

I'm sorry what?
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 6:01:09 AM
#195:


@Leanaunfurled I think 10/27 is better than 12/24 tbh
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Alucard188
04/21/17 6:10:37 AM
#196:


So, 10/27 is the next date to look out for, huh? I'm almost there.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 6:12:19 AM
#197:


It's pretty much the equivalent of 12/3 from Persona 3
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Alucard188
04/21/17 6:22:55 AM
#198:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
It's pretty much the equivalent of 12/3 from Persona 3


Ryoji...

*shakes fist*

Well, here's hoping Persona 5 doesn't end like Persona 3 does. I don't think my soul could take that much crushing.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 6:24:45 AM
#199:


they've strayed away from the edgy stuff

P4 and P5 are a lot more lighthearted
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Alucard188
04/21/17 6:32:00 AM
#200:


That's good. I hope P5 doesn't end as sappy as P4 did in the true ending. Fucks sakes, he was only moving back home, not to Canada or something. You can catch a train for a day trip and go see him.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/21/17 6:41:04 AM
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