Current Events > Much like Trump, LBJ spent 20% of his time in office at 'The Texas White House'.

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Capn Circus
04/16/17 10:57:17 PM
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Maybe one day we'll be able to tour the Florida Mar-a-Lago White House?

"The exhibit also features artifacts and photos about life at the LBJ Ranch, where the President spent twenty percent of his time in office."

http://www.lbjlibrary.org/exhibits/the-white-house-years

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ManSpread
04/16/17 10:58:20 PM
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:04:16 PM
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He even built an airstrip for his white house jet to land on his ranch. I'm sure if Trump did that it would be a national catastrophe.
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Paper_Okami
04/16/17 11:07:42 PM
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Literally more than 40 years ago.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:10:39 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
Literally more than 40 years ago.


And? Is there some new 21st century law that says a President can't govern anymore away from the White House in Washington, DC?
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CW_McGraw
04/16/17 11:11:33 PM
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Yeah dude. A guy staying at his house sometime is totally the same as a guy using his line of hotels and resorts as political meeting places to enrich himself. Nice post. Upvoted.
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 11:13:26 PM
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MFW conservative suddenly love LBJ.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:13:32 PM
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CW_McGraw posted...
Yeah dude. A guy staying at his house sometime is totally the same as a guy using his line of hotels and resorts as political meeting places to enrich himself. Nice post. Upvoted.


He governed from there. World leaders stayed there. Senators/Congressmen stayed there. The media stayed there.

Much like Trump's Mar-A-Lago
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PrinceDBF
04/16/17 11:13:48 PM
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pulling out his penis in front of people and nicknaming it jumbo would be a more glaring move from trump.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:15:41 PM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
MFW conservative suddenly love LBJ.


Far from it. I'm just not one to prance around and pretend Trump is on vacation when the liberal's liberal did the same thing yet everyone ignores it because he's a liberal
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tremain07
04/16/17 11:17:39 PM
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Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come
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Tmaster148
04/16/17 11:18:48 PM
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How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.
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Psycho_Poodle
04/16/17 11:20:01 PM
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LBJ was awesome. Vietnam needed escalation imo. We lost Vietnam itself but we contained it in that area, keeping nearby areas free.
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The Great Muta 22
04/16/17 11:20:22 PM
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This still doesn't change the Trump bitched about Obama "going on vacation" and leaving the White House, as well as claiming he'd be too busy to ever travel or ever leave.

But hey, keep digging to find a deflection
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 11:21:12 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
MFW conservative suddenly love LBJ.


Far from it. I'm just not one to prance around and pretend Trump is on vacation when the liberal's liberal did the same thing yet everyone ignores it because he's a liberal

How much money did LBJ make from having his security detail pay to protect him? How much money did foreign dignitaries spend on his ranch while LBJ conducted business there? Did LBJ strain the expenses of the city where his ranch was located for the privilege of providing him protection? How many rounds of golf did LBJ play while he was the president? Did LBJ allow guests at his ranch to sit in while he was taking intelligence briefings? Did LBJ ever state he would do nothing but stay at the white house while he's president? Was LBJ a heavy critic of the leisure time of any presidents prior to him taking office?
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ffmasterjose
04/16/17 11:22:00 PM
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"Hey hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?"
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Schwarber
04/16/17 11:24:27 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
MFW conservative suddenly love LBJ.


Far from it. I'm just not one to prance around and pretend Trump is on vacation when the liberal's liberal did the same thing yet everyone ignores it because he's a liberal


How old do you think the people that frequent this site are?
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 11:26:14 PM
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Schwarber posted...
Capn Circus posted...
AltonBrownFan posted...
MFW conservative suddenly love LBJ.


Far from it. I'm just not one to prance around and pretend Trump is on vacation when the liberal's liberal did the same thing yet everyone ignores it because he's a liberal


How old do you think the people that frequent this site are?

MFW TC has an account old enough to make an account yet this is how he acts.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:26:24 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.


I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?

Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.

Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..
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billcom6
04/16/17 11:27:18 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.


I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?

Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.

Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:29:05 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.


I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?

Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.

Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


Yea. Businesses HATE free advertising.


Well, America elected a very wealthy businessman. Deal with it =)
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ChrisHansen59
04/16/17 11:30:35 PM
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LBJ had a big dong
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Tmaster148
04/16/17 11:34:17 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?


Staying at Mar-A-Lago is far more expensive that staying at another person's house since so far there's been no evidence that shows Trump is being generous and waving the cost for the secret service.

Capn Circus posted...
Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.


He owns Mar-A-Lago, so anything Mar-A-Lago makes he earns.

Capn Circus posted...
Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


As far as my posts are concerned, I'm only talking about the president and cost to protect him and not including foreign company.
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 11:35:51 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
billcom6 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.


I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?

Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.

Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


Yea. Businesses HATE free advertising.


Well, America elected a very wealthy businessman. Deal with it =)

Why do you think it's acceptable that Trump is enriching himself with taxpayer's money?
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PrinceDBF
04/16/17 11:38:25 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come


except unlike trump, lbj was actually incredibly smart and knew what he was doing.
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Tmaster148
04/16/17 11:39:35 PM
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PrinceDBF posted...
tremain07 posted...
Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come


except unlike trump, lbj was actually incredibly smart and knew what he was doing.


I have a feeling Trump at the very least understand how to profit from taxpayers by taking the trips to Mar-A-Lago every weekend. Since it's not like republicans will actually do anything to stop him.
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The Great Muta 22
04/16/17 11:42:40 PM
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So what, about 20 posts or so before the TC self admitted he didn't give a shit about Trump doing the opposite of LBJ and people should just deal with it?

What a failure of a TC
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PrinceDBF
04/16/17 11:44:39 PM
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people who say lbj was a racist because he voted against civil rights in the senate don't seem to realize civil rights in the deep south was an incredibly unpopular idea at the time he was in texas office. he wasn't going to come out in favor just so he could vote on a bill that would never pass anyway and kill his popularity for a fat old conservative racist to take his seat.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
04/16/17 11:46:15 PM
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Didn't LBJ have a lot of stock in some sort of weapons company and made a ton of profit off the Vietnam war too? Brown and Root or something and it eventually got purchased by Halliburton?

Or is that just something my dad always told me that was actually bullshit?
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Drasilor
04/16/17 11:47:36 PM
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PrinceDBF posted...
tremain07 posted...
Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come


except unlike trump, lbj was actually incredibly smart and knew what he was doing.


"I'll have those ******* voting democrat for the next 200 years"

What a great guy......
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Tmaster148
04/16/17 11:48:01 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Didn't LBJ have a lot of stock in some sort of weapons company and made a ton of profit off the Vietnam war too?

Or is that just something my dad always told me that was actually bullshit?


I've heard this too. Although idk if it's true either.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:48:04 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?


Staying at Mar-A-Lago is far more expensive that staying at another person's house since so far there's been no evidence that shows Trump is being generous and waving the cost for the secret service.

Capn Circus posted...
Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.


He owns Mar-A-Lago, so anything Mar-A-Lago makes he earns.

Capn Circus posted...
Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


As far as my posts are concerned, I'm only talking about the president and cost to protect him and not including foreign company.


Mar-A-Lago is Trump's house. He has many. The secret service follows the president around wherever they go. I'm not sure why you think Trump is charging the secret service to stay at his house but LBJ didn't.

Also,

"Just like with conflicts of interest, he wants to do more than what the Constitution requires. So President-elect Trump has decided, and we are announcing today, that he is going to voluntarily donate all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotels to the United States Treasury. This way it is the American people who will profit." - http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-plans-to-donate-hotel-profits-1484154101-htmlstory.html
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 11:48:46 PM
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Oh, did all of LBJ's visits there result in tax payer money being used that in turn went back into LBJ's pocket? Because that's what happens every time Trump goes to Florida....
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PrinceDBF
04/16/17 11:49:51 PM
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Drasilor posted...
PrinceDBF posted...
tremain07 posted...
Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come


except unlike trump, lbj was actually incredibly smart and knew what he was doing.


"I'll have those ******* voting democrat for the next 200 years"

What a great guy......


he didn't say that, and i didn't say he was a good guy.
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Garioshi
04/16/17 11:49:52 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Trump really is a worse version of LBJ. god help us all if he gets us into a Vietnam level conflict; Through maybe mister tiny hands will be the silver lining that gets universal health care started in America much like LBJ was forced into helping out the civil rights movement that switched Democrats and Republician views for decades to come

Except LBJ was actually a seasoned Congressman who actually knew what the fuck he was doing. Despite his personal views, he still did the right thing because he wanted to be on the right side of history. Trump, on the other hand...
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Gravityfare
04/16/17 11:50:43 PM
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LBJ also gave us Medicare, PBS, Medicaid, and Pell Grants.

Trump has tried to take away 21 million people's HC.
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Drasilor
04/16/17 11:51:24 PM
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Let's not forget LBJ was involved in the assassination of JFK
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Gravityfare
04/16/17 11:51:52 PM
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Drasilor posted...
Let's not forget LBJ was involved in the assassination of JFK

No.
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Garioshi
04/16/17 11:52:18 PM
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Drasilor posted...
Let's not forget LBJ was involved in the assassination of JFK

what
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Gravityfare
04/16/17 11:53:02 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Didn't LBJ have a lot of stock in some sort of weapons company and made a ton of profit off the Vietnam war too? Brown and Root or something and it eventually got purchased by Halliburton?

Or is that just something my dad always told me that was actually bullshit?

KBR - Kellogg, Brown and Root out of Houston, TX.

And it wasn't LBJ - it was Ladybird his wife.
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Schwarber
04/16/17 11:53:24 PM
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When the only guy defending TC and his shitty topic is a conspiracy nut you know you dun goofed
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Tmaster148
04/16/17 11:54:48 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Mar-A-Lago is Trump's house. He has many. The secret service follows the president around wherever they go. I'm not sure why you think Trump is charging the secret service to stay at his house but LBJ didn't.


I didn't say LBJ didn't charge them. I just said that staying at Mar-A-Lago a resort is far more expensive than staying at a persons house. There's no evidence that shows Trump isn't charging them to stay at Mar-A-Lago and the estimated cost of $3 million a trip is also more than the cost to fly the secret service to Florida. For reference the cost to fly Air Force One is ~$200K an hour and Florida is a two hour trip by plane which brings total cost for two way trip at ~$800K. I highly doubt the cost to stay at LBJ's house would hit anywhere near $1 million.
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Capn Circus
04/16/17 11:56:55 PM
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AltonBrownFan posted...
Capn Circus posted...
billcom6 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
How much did LBJ cost tax payers going to his own house instead of staying at the White House? And did he profit from doing so? You seem to misunderstand the main issue people complaining about Trump's trip are having. It's not about Trump deciding to go golfing every weekend that is the problem, although the hypocrisy of him complaining about Obama's golfing is funny when he's doing it far more frequently. It's the fact his trips are costing us more than Obama did in a single year and he's profiting from doing so.


I have no idea how much it cost for LBJ to take the trips. But he clearly flew in presidential planes with secret service. What makes Trump's trips more expensive (besides inflation) and increased security due to the nature of some people in our country?

Trump is not profiting off of any stays at his resorts or hotels by foreign leaders or entities. That's already been established.

Do you honestly think Trump charged the Chinese president to stay at Mar-A-Lago? lol..


Yea. Businesses HATE free advertising.


Well, America elected a very wealthy businessman. Deal with it =)

Why do you think it's acceptable that Trump is enriching himself with taxpayer's money?


The American voters knew full and well Trump was a multi billionaire real estate tycoon. Whatever advantage you think his properties are receiving because of "free advertising" is completely irrelevant.

The same could be said about his properties potentially loosing money because he is allegedly very hated and people won't stay there anymore.

So what exactly is your point? Do you not want people to be allowed to run for president if they own properties and are business men? Should we just keep electing career politicians such as Hillary (which obviously you wanted to see win)?
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The Great Muta 22
04/16/17 11:59:55 PM
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Deflect away TC, doesn't change Trump being a hypocritical bitch for crying about Obama's vacations and golfing while doing the same at a higher pace
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Gravityfare
04/17/17 12:01:12 AM
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All I really just heard from Circus is "Hillary was SO bad that Donald Trump won"
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D-Lo_BrownTown
04/17/17 12:01:32 AM
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Gravityfare posted...
KBR - Kellogg, Brown and Root out of Houston, TX.

And it wasn't LBJ - it was Ladybird his wife.


Ahh, okay, it's been a while since I've heard him talk about it I just knew there was some kind of connection.

Anyways, my thinking is that politicians are always up to some shady shit but Trump doesn't even hide it at this point which is pretty bad because he was supposed to be the anti-politician.

But, fuck, what ya gonna do? Not vote for him next time I guess.
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Capn Circus
04/17/17 12:02:21 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Mar-A-Lago is Trump's house. He has many. The secret service follows the president around wherever they go. I'm not sure why you think Trump is charging the secret service to stay at his house but LBJ didn't.


I didn't say LBJ didn't charge them. I just said that staying at Mar-A-Lago a resort is far more expensive than staying at a persons house. There's no evidence that shows Trump isn't charging them to stay at Mar-A-Lago and the estimated cost of $3 million a trip is also more than the cost to fly the secret service to Florida. For reference the cost to fly Air Force One is ~$200K an hour and Florida is a two hour trip by plane which brings total cost for two way trip at ~$800K. I highly doubt the cost to stay at LBJ's house would hit anywhere near $1 million.


Mar-A-Lago may be a resort, but it is also one of Trump's homes. I'd be open for you to do some more research to see if Trump is charging U.S. Government employees to stay at his house. I highly doubt that is the case, but I'd be receptive to such information should it ever be provided.

I'm sure CNN or MSNBC would have already broken the story before you if Trump was charging the secret service to stay at his resorts. It would be all over the news.
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Capn Circus
04/17/17 12:04:28 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Deflect away TC, doesn't change Trump being a hypocritical bitch for crying about Obama's vacations and golfing while doing the same at a higher pace


That's not what this topic is about. In fact, you're the one who is literally deflecting.
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DirkDiggles
04/17/17 12:05:09 AM
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Gravityfare posted...
Drasilor posted...
Let's not forget LBJ was involved in the assassination of JFK

No.


JFK didn't want to stay in Vietnam for very long. LBJ did. War = $
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The Great Muta 22
04/17/17 12:11:05 AM
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Capn Circus posted...
That's not what this topic is about. In fact, you're the one who is literally deflecting.


This topic is about "Well LBJ did this so liberals can't complain about TRUMP!" despite the fact that it was Trump himself who made this whole thing an issue to begin with.
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