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Erik_P 04/17/17 8:50:23 PM #51:	I'm perfectly capable of introspection and acknowledging fault. But again, you tried to claim someone burning a sign was on a specific side and used the title of a video as your proof. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:877393441] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>I'm perfectly capable of introspection and acknowledging fault. But again, you tried to claim someone burning a sign was on a specific side and used the title of a video as your proof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dainkinkaide 04/17/17 9:08:50 PM #52:	Kyuubi4269 posted... "Shitty opinions" are the entire point of free speech, you can't deprive somebody of their right to express their opinion because your or your culture's sensibilities don't mesh with them. Oh, they've been perfectly free to express those shitty opinions, and it's not illegal for them to do so, so their right to free speech is not and has not been violated. What they're seeing now is an organized movement willing to fight back against the shitty opinions and abuse, perfectly displaying that there are consequences to one's actions. "Free speech" merely protects your right to spout bullshit; it doesn't protect you from the consequences of expressing that bullshit. Granted, assault is still illegal, but if someone thinks another person's shitty opinion warrants a violent reminder that their opinion is shitty, then that other person will undoubtedly be met with violence, regardless of the fact that this assault would be illegal. If one were to walk into a biker bar full of Hell's Angels and express one's shitty opinion that motorcycles are for pansies, all the mewling about "free speech" in the world wouldn't protect one from getting one's ass beat and/or shot. One is, of course, still free to and still retains the right to express that shitty opinion, regardless of the consequences. "Free speech" isn't some arcane incantation that protects assholes from condemnation or retribution. Actions have consequences. --- Hank Pym changes superhero aliases more often than Hawkman changes origin stories. <cite>dainkinkaide posted [p:877394678] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>"Shitty opinions" are the entire point of free speech, you can't deprive somebody of their right to express their opinion because your or your culture's sensibilities don't mesh with them.</quote> Oh, they've been perfectly free to express those shitty opinions, and it's not illegal for them to do so, so their right to free speech is not and has not been violated. What they're seeing now is an organized movement willing to fight back against the shitty opinions and abuse, perfectly displaying that there are consequences to one's actions. "Free speech" merely protects your right to spout bullshit; it doesn't protect you from the consequences of expressing that bullshit. Granted, assault is still illegal, but if someone thinks another person's shitty opinion warrants a violent reminder that their opinion is shitty, then that other person will undoubtedly be met with violence, regardless of the fact that this assault would be illegal. If one were to walk into a biker bar full of Hell's Angels and express one's shitty opinion that motorcycles are for pansies, all the mewling about "free speech" in the world wouldn't protect one from getting one's ass beat and/or shot. One is, of course, still free to and still retains the right to express that shitty opinion, regardless of the consequences. "Free speech" isn't some arcane incantation that protects assholes from condemnation or retribution. Actions have consequences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 04/17/17 9:51:06 PM #53:	Claude_Frollo posted... What beef do you have with me? You're a pretentious edgelord kid. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png <cite>Zareth posted [p:877397422] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Claude_Frollo posted...</cite> <quote>What beef do you have with me?</quote> You're a pretentious edgelord kid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Claude_Frollo 04/17/17 9:51:45 PM #54:	Zareth posted... Claude_Frollo posted... What beef do you have with me? You're a pretentious edgelord kid. At least one of those things isn't true. Personally I think I'm a pretty reasonable guy, even if I can be a bit edgy. --- I had a little trouble with the fireplace. <cite>Claude_Frollo posted [p:877397465] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zareth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Claude_Frollo posted...</cite> <quote>What beef do you have with me?</quote> You're a pretentious edgelord kid.</quote> At least one of those things isn't true. Personally I think I'm a pretty reasonable guy, even if I can be a bit edgy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SKARDAVNELNATE 04/17/17 9:53:40 PM #55:	Erik_P posted... The left are progressive, not regressive. They're both rather regressive at this point. The left are turning out to be even bigger dictators. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. <cite>SKARDAVNELNATE posted [p:877397590] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>The left are progressive, not regressive.</quote> They're both rather regressive at this point. The left are turning out to be even bigger dictators.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 04/17/17 10:01:19 PM #56:	dainkinkaide posted... "Free speech" isn't some arcane incantation that protects assholes from condemnation or retribution. Actions have consequences. No shit? It doesn't make antifa right to attack them and their property though. Using violence and the threat thereof to suppress the beliefs of others is against the spirit of the law, particularly when done by a political entity, and should be treated accordingly. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:877398086] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>dainkinkaide posted...</cite> <quote>"Free speech" isn't some arcane incantation that protects assholes from condemnation or retribution. Actions have consequences.</quote> No shit? It doesn't make antifa right to attack them and their property though. Using violence and the threat thereof to suppress the beliefs of others is against the spirit of the law, particularly when done by a political entity, and should be treated accordingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cloelea 04/18/17 11:14:47 AM #57:	more exaggerated views from erik is the reason trump will get a 2nd term which is pretty hot & sultry <cite>cloelea posted [p:877426797] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>more exaggerated views from erik is the reason trump will get a 2nd term which is pretty hot & sultry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/18/17 11:42:50 AM #58:	It's funny how those who claim to be "anti-fascist", all act like fascists. With them also not knowing what "fascism" is, and failing to recognize that Donald Trump, is not even remotely close to being fascist. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877428308] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how those who claim to be "anti-fascist", all act like fascists. With them also not knowing what "fascism" is, and failing to recognize that Donald Trump, is not even remotely close to being fascist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/18/17 12:34:43 PM #59:	TheWorstPoster posted... It's funny how those who claim to be "anti-fascist", all act like fascists. With them also not knowing what "fascism" is, and failing to recognize that Donald Trump, is not even remotely close to being fascist. http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm He ticks the box of every single trait of fascists. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:877431182] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny how those who claim to be "anti-fascist", all act like fascists. With them also not knowing what "fascism" is, and failing to recognize that Donald Trump, is not even remotely close to being fascist.</quote> http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm He ticks the box of every single trait of fascists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/18/17 1:41:39 PM #60:	His nationalism is so strong, half the country is divided, with his opponent getting more votes. His human rights records are so horrible, that this country remains the freest on Earth. He uses scapegoats so much, his opponents tried (and failed), to pin the blame of their election loss on Russia, despite there being absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. Our military has always been large, and funded more than anything else, ever since World War 2. He is so sexist, Leftists get into a violent rage when he said irrelevant things 12 years ago, as well as fictitious rape cases that have been thrown out of court, as well as Leftists ignoring the sexual abuse from his opponent's husband. He controls the mass media so much, that practically every news outlet, and all of Hollywood, actively insults, slams, and shuns him, and tries to get him impeached for frivolous reasons, and invents controversies out of nothing. He did not, and will not, force a religion on the masses, due to the First Amendment stating that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;, and he cannot do anything about that. Corporate power loves Trump so much, that most CEOs of major businesses, are in line with news outlets and Hollywood. Labor power is so suppressed, that labor unions continue to terrorize all those who do not want to join them. Intellectuals, like college professors, love Trump so much, that they have openly stated that they wanted him assassinated, and that only 1 in 12, is not a Leftist. Our prison systems are so disdainful of human rights, that capital punishment is outlawed in most states, political prisoners are virtually nonexistent, and enforcing national laws to keep people who don't belong here out, is somehow a crime. Trump is so corrupt, there is no actual allegations of any sort of corruption popping up, other than fictitious narrative, to the point where they point out irrelevant things he said 12 years ago. The election is so fraudulent, that Trump won by gaining the majority of electoral votes, and winning the majority of states, that when a recount was cast, they count out that he had a few more votes, in the single digits. But since the election was not what the vast majority of news outlets wanted, they pinned the blame on Russia, with absolutely no evidence. He sure is a real fascist, right? <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877434996] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>His nationalism is so strong, half the country is divided, with his opponent getting more votes. His human rights records are so horrible, that this country remains the freest on Earth. He uses scapegoats so much, his opponents tried (and failed), to pin the blame of their election loss on Russia, despite there being absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. Our military has always been large, and funded more than anything else, ever since World War 2. He is so sexist, Leftists get into a violent rage when he said irrelevant things 12 years ago, as well as fictitious rape cases that have been thrown out of court, as well as Leftists ignoring the sexual abuse from his opponent's husband. He controls the mass media so much, that practically every news outlet, and all of Hollywood, actively insults, slams, and shuns him, and tries to get him impeached for frivolous reasons, and invents controversies out of nothing. He did not, and will not, force a religion on the masses, due to the First Amendment stating that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;, and he cannot do anything about that. Corporate power loves Trump so much, that most CEOs of major businesses, are in line with news outlets and Hollywood. Labor power is so suppressed, that labor unions continue to terrorize all those who do not want to join them. Intellectuals, like college professors, love Trump so much, that they have openly stated that they wanted him assassinated, and that only 1 in 12, is not a Leftist. Our prison systems are so disdainful of human rights, that capital punishment is outlawed in most states, political prisoners are virtually nonexistent, and enforcing national laws to keep people who don't belong here out, is somehow a crime. Trump is so corrupt, there is no actual allegations of any sort of corruption popping up, other than fictitious narrative, to the point where they point out irrelevant things he said 12 years ago. The election is so fraudulent, that Trump won by gaining the majority of electoral votes, and winning the majority of states, that when a recount was cast, they count out that he had a few more votes, in the single digits. But since the election was not what the vast majority of news outlets wanted, they pinned the blame on Russia, with absolutely no evidence. He sure is a real fascist, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/18/17 1:45:22 PM #61:	Of course, Leftists are NOT fascist, and will never infringe on the rights of anybody else https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/ <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877435220] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>Of course, Leftists are NOT fascist, and will never infringe on the rights of anybody else https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 04/18/17 3:15:04 PM #62:	The biggest difference these days between the extreme left and right are that the left act like spoiled, entitled crybabies whereas the right are typically just jerks. The irony to me is that a group like the alt-right is less oppressive and ignorant. How did this happen? It's like when a misguided scientist goes too far and becomes a mad scientist. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:877440455] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>The biggest difference these days between the extreme left and right are that the left act like spoiled, entitled crybabies whereas the right are typically just jerks. The irony to me is that a group like the alt-right is less oppressive and ignorant. How did this happen? It's like when a misguided scientist goes too far and becomes a mad scientist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KroganCharr 04/19/17 11:33:18 AM #64:	TheWorstPoster posted... Of course, Leftists are NOT fascist, and will never infringe on the rights of anybody else https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/ Depends on how you define "fascism", some sources say it refers to a specific right wing ideology. Still, horseshoe theory in action, a leftist can be just as collectivist, just as hateful, just as authoriatarian, intolerant and oppressive. --- I think, therefore I am... I think. <cite>KroganCharr posted [p:877494305] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>Of course, Leftists are NOT fascist, and will never infringe on the rights of anybody else https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/</quote> Depends on how you define "fascism", some sources say it refers to a specific right wing ideology. Still, horseshoe theory in action, a leftist can be just as collectivist, just as hateful, just as authoriatarian, intolerant and oppressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 04/19/17 11:36:24 AM #65:	The folks claiming all liberals are a bunch of regressive fascists are the same people that get red faced and blustered when someone claims conservatives are a bunch of racists --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "because I like to troll" -yourDaddie <cite>Mead posted [p:877494478] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote>The folks claiming all liberals are a bunch of regressive fascists are the same people that get red faced and blustered when someone claims conservatives are a bunch of racists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/19/17 1:15:30 PM #66:	KroganCharr posted... Depends on how you define "fascism", some sources say it refers to a specific right wing ideology. Still, horseshoe theory in action, a leftist can be just as collectivist, just as hateful, just as authoriatarian, intolerant and oppressive. I reject the notion of a "horseshoe theory", because it is pure nonsense, deliberately designed that way, to lump your atrocities with your opponents. Instead, this is much easier to follow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877500189] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>KroganCharr posted...</cite> <quote> Depends on how you define "fascism", some sources say it refers to a specific right wing ideology. Still, horseshoe theory in action, a leftist can be just as collectivist, just as hateful, just as authoriatarian, intolerant and oppressive.</quote> I reject the notion of a "horseshoe theory", because it is pure nonsense, deliberately designed that way, to lump your atrocities with your opponents. Instead, this is much easier to follow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 04/19/17 1:22:14 PM #67:	Erik_P posted... While I haven't seen any reports on who started it, odds are good it was the pro Trump jackasses. i wish i could be as ignorant as you. --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:877500582] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote> While I haven't seen any reports on who started it, odds are good it was the pro Trump jackasses. </quote> i wish i could be as ignorant as you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/19/17 1:51:24 PM #68:	ssj4supervegeta posted... i wish i could be as ignorant as you. It's easy. Read nothing but The Huffington Post, Vox, Mother Jones, and Vice, and watch The Young Turks endlessly. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877502364] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj4supervegeta posted...</cite> <quote> i wish i could be as ignorant as you.</quote> It's easy. Read nothing but The Huffington Post, Vox, Mother Jones, and Vice, and watch The Young Turks endlessly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KroganCharr 04/19/17 3:24:47 PM #69:	TheWorstPoster posted... ssj4supervegeta posted... i wish i could be as ignorant as you. It's easy. Read nothing but The Huffington Post, Vox, Mother Jones, and Vice, and watch The Young Turks endlessly. The Huffington Post isn't actually that one-sided. It has some hard-left articles but not all are. I used to really like TYT. I have no idea what happened to them. They would have completely stomped someone like Alex Jones a couple of years ago, now he effortlessly gets under their skin. --- I think, therefore I am... I think. <cite>KroganCharr posted [p:877508353] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj4supervegeta posted...</cite> <quote> i wish i could be as ignorant as you.</quote> It's easy. Read nothing but The Huffington Post, Vox, Mother Jones, and Vice, and watch The Young Turks endlessly.</quote> The Huffington Post isn't actually that one-sided. It has some hard-left articles but not all are. I used to really like TYT. I have no idea what happened to them. They would have completely stomped someone like Alex Jones a couple of years ago, now he effortlessly gets under their skin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 04/19/17 3:37:33 PM #70:	KroganCharr posted... The Huffington Post isn't actually that one-sided. It has some hard-left articles but not all are. When they have articles like this, removed not for its content, but because of its "author", tell me again that it isn't one-sided https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/ <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:877509157] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>KroganCharr posted...</cite> <quote> The Huffington Post isn't actually that one-sided. It has some hard-left articles but not all are.</quote> When they have articles like this, removed not for its content, but because of its "author", tell me again that it isn't one-sided https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170413112251/http:/www.huffingtonpost.co.za/shelley-garland/could-it-be-time-to-deny-white-men-the-franchise_a_22036640/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 04/19/17 5:26:20 PM #71:	TheWorstPoster posted... I reject the notion of a "horseshoe theory", because it is pure nonsense, deliberately designed that way, to lump your atrocities with your opponents. Big surprise. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png <cite>Zareth posted [p:877516056] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote> I reject the notion of a "horseshoe theory", because it is pure nonsense, deliberately designed that way, to lump your atrocities with your opponents.</quote> Big surprise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IAmNowGone 04/19/17 7:44:22 PM #72:	Erik_P posted... Claude_Frollo posted... Erik_P posted... Setting a sign on fire is bad now? I thought it was freedom of speech. They have every right to do it, and I'll never argue against that, the point is that they oppose the freedom of speech, which earns them the labels of regressive leftist, pseudo-progressive, etc. Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the conservatives against freedom of speech. For 8 years they shit on Obama, and that was ok, but now that they got their guy in office it's suddenly wrong to say anything negative about the Orange Menace. Your opinion is trash. <cite>IAmNowGone posted [p:877524157] in So about t... [t:75245248]...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Claude_Frollo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Erik_P posted...</cite> <quote>Setting a sign on fire is bad now? I thought it was freedom of speech.</quote> They have every right to do it, and I'll never argue against that, the point is that they oppose the freedom of speech, which earns them the labels of regressive leftist, pseudo-progressive, etc.</quote> Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the conservatives against freedom of speech. For 8 years they shit on Obama, and that was ok, but now that they got their guy in office it's suddenly wrong to say anything negative about the Orange Menace.</quote> Your opinion is trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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