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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:03:57 AM
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Mods: "We do not allow hate speech on GameFAQs"

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LightningAce11
04/16/17 11:04:18 AM
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Post the dispute.
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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:05:16 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Post the dispute.


Not gonna because that's an instant moderation afaik, but that's the essence of what happened.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:06:20 AM
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There are a few gamefaqs mods pretty far left. Think Canada-level shilling for Islam, to the point where any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.
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The Admiral
04/16/17 11:09:05 AM
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Now now, TC. Just because we might have frequent incidents like this one:

http://fox8.com/2017/03/18/paris-airport-attack-armed-assailant-shouted-i-am-here-to-die-for-allah/

there is no reason to jump to conclusions about their religion.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:09:24 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Now now, TC. Just because we might have frequent incidents like this one:

http://fox8.com/2017/03/18/paris-airport-attack-armed-assailant-shouted-i-am-here-to-die-for-allah/

there is no reason to jump to conclusions about their religion.


How can you be sure of his motives, though?
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Adzeta_
04/16/17 11:10:28 AM
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Yup.

I get modded repeatedly for shit like that as well. Fucking hilarious.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:11:52 AM
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Let's test that theory, maybe you guys are lying about the details of the moderation.

People commit violence in the name of Islam.
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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:12:30 AM
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What's funny is that I'll absolutely preach that someone practising their Islamic faith is no problem in my eyes. If you pray to God and wear your hjiab I have zero qualms with you, and nothing I've ever said should give anyone that impression. You are free to do that, and absolutely should be.

But the ideology and the institution. That I will criticise endlessly.
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ChouBF
04/16/17 11:14:24 AM
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But it's true. People commit violence in the name of Islam.
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The Admiral
04/16/17 11:18:55 AM
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In all honesty, just dispute. There is a mod on CE who proactively handles these comments about Islam and is horrendous at his job. I've probably had 5 bullshit moderations on this topic overturned in the last year.
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refmon
04/16/17 11:20:25 AM
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Logos posted...
any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.

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voldothegr8
04/16/17 11:26:43 AM
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That fucking hate speech rule, there are indeed a few snowflake mods who bend it way too far. Good luck getting it overturned, you have about a 10% chance you get a decent lead mod to overturn, no matter how BS it is. Here's a recent gem from a post of mine. It was an Austin Powers meme in response to an article of a lady looking like a dude.

This was deleted because she's taking a body positive feminist stance on body hair, so you call her a man for it. This falls in under the hate speech category of the offensive rule, as you are using gender as means of an insult. Have a good day.

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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:27:28 AM
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The Admiral posted...
In all honesty, just dispute. There is a mod on CE who proactively handles these comments about Islam and is horrendous at his job. I've probably had 5 bullshit moderations on this topic overturned in the last year.


I disputed to Lead Mod, it was the Lead Mod who said the above. I honestly can't be bothered taking it to the admin, it's going to be the same story. Criticisms of religious ideology are apparently deeply offensive to whoever shares that ideology, to such a degree that they can be considered "hate speech" by someone who nevertheless has the sufficient mental capacity to type out coherent sentences.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:28:36 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
The Admiral posted...
In all honesty, just dispute. There is a mod on CE who proactively handles these comments about Islam and is horrendous at his job. I've probably had 5 bullshit moderations on this topic overturned in the last year.


I disputed to Lead Mod, it was the Lead Mod who said the above. I honestly can't be bothered taking it to the admin, it's going to be the same story. Criticisms of religious ideology are apparently deeply offensive to whoever shares that ideology, to such a degree that they can be considered "hate speech" by someone who nevertheless has the sufficient mental capacity to type out coherent sentences.


This only applies when it's Islam. If it's literally any religion, the frequency of this type of moderation drops.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/16/17 11:29:16 AM
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probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf
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Mist_Turnips
04/16/17 11:29:52 AM
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I once got modded for mocking feminism. Seriously, "insulting feminism". That was clearly new mod season and I think I remember an SJW becoming a new mod during that time. He didn't last.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:30:05 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


lol'd
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ssj3vegeta
04/16/17 11:30:43 AM
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Logos posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


lol'd

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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:32:03 AM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


Nothing anyone can say can make me think that making philosophical criticisms of an idealogy is hate speech, bro.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/16/17 11:32:08 AM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
I once got modded for mocking feminism.


You also insulted black people because of a fake youtube video and argued for rape as a form of punishment so i'm sure that moderation was totally unfair.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:32:35 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


Nothing anyone can say can make me think that making philosophical criticisms of an idealogy is hate speech, bro.


You misunderstood his shitpost. Admiral and I agree with you. Broseph_Stalin is saying that if we're agreeing with you, that means you're obviously wrong.
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Blue_Inigo
04/16/17 11:33:23 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Now now, TC. Just because we might have frequent incidents like this one:

http://fox8.com/2017/03/18/paris-airport-attack-armed-assailant-shouted-i-am-here-to-die-for-allah/

there is no reason to jump to conclusions about their religion.

Do you know how many stories of white people committing violence I could post?
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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:33:40 AM
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Logos posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


Nothing anyone can say can make me think that making philosophical criticisms of an idealogy is hate speech, bro.


You misunderstood his shitpost. Admiral and I agree with you. Broseph_Stalin is saying that if we're agreeing with you, that means you're obviously wrong.


No no I get it. Tbh it looks bad, and we would disagree on about 98% of political topics, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills lately with how criticism towards a religious idea is considered racism
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Vamp_Aubrey
04/16/17 11:35:38 AM
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i completely agree this hatespeech rule is getting out of hand

just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??
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Logos
04/16/17 11:36:40 AM
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Vamp_Aubrey posted...
i completely agree this hatespeech rule is getting out of hand

just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??


Fair next. People can be racist against whites.

pinky0926 posted...
Logos posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
probably best to admit you were in the wrong if proudclad and admiral are arguing on your behalf


Nothing anyone can say can make me think that making philosophical criticisms of an idealogy is hate speech, bro.


You misunderstood his shitpost. Admiral and I agree with you. Broseph_Stalin is saying that if we're agreeing with you, that means you're obviously wrong.


No no I get it. Tbh it looks bad, and we would disagree on about 98% of political topics, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills lately with how criticism towards a religious idea is considered racism


Welp, enjoy the SJWism you lot sowed!
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Bio1590
04/16/17 11:37:36 AM
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Logos posted...
There are a few gamefaqs mods pretty far left. Think Canada-level shilling for Islam, to the point where any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.

We have no such law.
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ASithLord7
04/16/17 11:37:37 AM
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The biggest issue is that mods are just inconsistent as shit. That's an innocuous fact (assuming you posted exactly what you say you did), yet people say far worse shit on a daily basis without getting modded.

Then you have things where I once got warned for saying terrorists who shot Malala should all be shot and was told to "keep that off this site, we don't allow condoning killing of any kind," yet you have people who are allowed to say so-and-so deserves the death penalty for a crime which is...kinda the same thing?
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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:38:35 AM
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*awaits the moment when the mod comes in and says that's not what happened, stop playing the victim*

But I like being the victim, give me pity plx
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Logos
04/16/17 11:39:51 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Logos posted...
There are a few gamefaqs mods pretty far left. Think Canada-level shilling for Islam, to the point where any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.

We have no such law.


Not yet, but yall are trending in that direction quite dangerously.
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Ammonitida
04/16/17 11:40:35 AM
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just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??


Good. Progress is being made here. Racist bigots who deny that racism can exist against white people should be ridiculed by the Left.

A black man has just been charged with a hate crime in the shooting death of a white motorist. I'd called that racist. Not something minimizing like "prejudice".

And I've been modded for bashing Christianity.
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Vamp_Aubrey
04/16/17 11:41:18 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??


Good. Progress is being made here. Racist bigots who deny that racism can exist against white people should be ridiculed by the Left.

A black man has just been charged with a hate crime in the shooting death of a white motorist. I'd called that racist. Not something minimizing like "prejudice".

And I've been modded for bashing Christianity.

thats called reverse racism

big difference
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ASithLord7
04/16/17 11:41:51 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??


Good. Progress is being made here. Racist bigots who deny that racism can exist against white people should be ridiculed by the Left.

A black man has just been charged with a hate crime in the shooting death of a white motorist. I'd called that racist. Not something minimizing like "prejudice".

And I've been modded for bashing Christianity.

You can indeed be racist against whites, but this is pretty amusing coming from a guy who's shilling so hard for a neo-Nazi in other topics today.
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CowboyDan
04/16/17 11:42:14 AM
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Logos posted...
pinky0926 posted...
The Admiral posted...
In all honesty, just dispute. There is a mod on CE who proactively handles these comments about Islam and is horrendous at his job. I've probably had 5 bullshit moderations on this topic overturned in the last year.


I disputed to Lead Mod, it was the Lead Mod who said the above. I honestly can't be bothered taking it to the admin, it's going to be the same story. Criticisms of religious ideology are apparently deeply offensive to whoever shares that ideology, to such a degree that they can be considered "hate speech" by someone who nevertheless has the sufficient mental capacity to type out coherent sentences.


This only applies when it's Islam. If it's literally any religion, the frequency of this type of moderation drops.

Not true at all, I've gotten modded for incredibly tame religion of peace jabs at Christianity.
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Freddie_Mercury
04/16/17 11:43:02 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Post the dispute.


Not gonna because that's an instant moderation afaik, but that's the essence of what happened.



>posts the same thing he got modded for again
>"I don't want to give context cuz I'll get modded again"
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The Eternal Flame
04/16/17 11:44:44 AM
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I wish there was accountability for moderations. If the goofus who modded this had his name on the dispute form, I have a feeling it would've been overturned.
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Ammonitida
04/16/17 11:44:54 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
just got a 3kl for saying that people can't be racist against whites

wtf??


Good. Progress is being made here. Racist bigots who deny that racism can exist against white people should be ridiculed by the Left.

A black man has just been charged with a hate crime in the shooting death of a white motorist. I'd called that racist. Not something minimizing like "prejudice".

And I've been modded for bashing Christianity.

You can indeed be racist against whites, but this is pretty amusing coming from a guy who's shilling so hard for a neo-Nazi in other topics today.


Stop lying about me. I don't give a shit about that guy. The most I've done is defend the crowd from Neo-Nazi smears.
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pinky0926
04/16/17 11:46:23 AM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
pinky0926 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Post the dispute.


Not gonna because that's an instant moderation afaik, but that's the essence of what happened.



>posts the same thing he got modded for again
>"I don't want to give context cuz I'll get modded again"


I'm pretty sure paraphrasing and posting an exact screenshot are not the same thing in ToS terms, but I'm not sure.

Hard to give context without just saying exactly what I said, but essentially I was arguing why Islam can be considered a fundamentally violent ideology in various contexts.
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Bio1590
04/16/17 11:53:48 AM
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Logos posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Logos posted...
There are a few gamefaqs mods pretty far left. Think Canada-level shilling for Islam, to the point where any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.

We have no such law.


Not yet, but yall are trending in that direction quite dangerously.

But we don't, so you are factually wrong, as is tradition.
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mattnd2007
04/16/17 11:54:03 AM
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It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.
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Logos
04/16/17 11:54:43 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Logos posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Logos posted...
There are a few gamefaqs mods pretty far left. Think Canada-level shilling for Islam, to the point where any criticism against the Quran is deemed hate speech. It's absolute lunacy, but they'll reap what they sow sooner or later.

We have no such law.


Not yet, but yall are trending in that direction quite dangerously.

But we don't, so you are factually wrong, as is tradition.


I didn't say that you have a law like that, though. You're illiterate, as is tradition.
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CowboyDan
04/16/17 11:54:49 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.

You're delusional.
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tremain07
04/16/17 11:55:11 AM
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You know, if you don't like it you could always leave if it bothers you so much.
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Ammonitida
04/16/17 11:56:42 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
pinky0926 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...
Post the dispute.


Not gonna because that's an instant moderation afaik, but that's the essence of what happened.



>posts the same thing he got modded for again
>"I don't want to give context cuz I'll get modded again"


I'm pretty sure paraphrasing and posting an exact screenshot are not the same thing in ToS terms, but I'm not sure.

Hard to give context without just saying exactly what I said, but essentially I was arguing why Islam can be considered a fundamentally violent ideology in various contexts.


I've been modded for quoting a Dailymail article that contained a racial slur that was already mostly censored. The slur wasn't even being used in a racially derogatory way, just as slang.
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mattnd2007
04/16/17 11:56:45 AM
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CowboyDan posted...
mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.

You're delusional.


Whatever you say Danny boy
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bretonftw
04/16/17 11:56:46 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.


Look at this entire topic and search "Islam" in the search bar. Either the mods are lazy or you're talking nonsense.

Now there's only one group you get insta modded for but I'm not even going to talk about (((them))).
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Ammonitida
04/16/17 11:58:08 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.


I see it all the time on Politics board. You have to be really REALLY bigoted to get modded. Generalizing about Muslims is perfectly acceptable it seems.
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CowboyDan
04/16/17 11:59:06 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
CowboyDan posted...
mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.

You're delusional.


Whatever you say Danny boy

Look at this topic. You are delusional.
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Mist_Turnips
04/16/17 12:00:42 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
I once got modded for mocking feminism.


You also insulted black people because of a fake youtube video and argued for rape as a form of punishment so i'm sure that moderation was totally unfair.

Who even are you, dork?
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iamintents
04/16/17 12:00:43 PM
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mattnd2007 posted...
It's stupid, but you can't criticize Islam on here. You will get modded.

y ep. my other acct is suspended b/c of it
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