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-RetroActive-
04/14/17 8:09:00 PM
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i loved the first three but i haven't played any since then. is marcus pheonix even in the game?
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chill02
04/14/17 8:11:14 PM
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-RetroActive- posted...
is marcus pheonix even in the game?


yes

also

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pinky0926
04/14/17 8:12:26 PM
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Also curious to know this. 2&3 were absolute masterpieces.
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Virus731
04/14/17 8:13:03 PM
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I wish I had Windows 10 to play.
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green butter
04/14/17 8:16:17 PM
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i'll preface this by saying i am a HUGE gears fan

it's probably the weakest in the franchise, after Judgment. The campaign has some cool moments, but the story is garbage (not that Gears is known for its story, but it's not an epic bro tale like the first 3), the characters are not very interesting at all, and the whole thing is only like 5 hours long. it just feels like a step back in every way, in terms of gameplay, enemy variety, bosses, level design, set pieces, etc. basically it's a decent time waster, but nothing more.

Multiplayer is a bit better. I think the balance is pretty solid and the new weapons work well. The original version of the game had some AWFUL microtransactions in it, but the dev has actually been fixing a lot of stuff so it's fairly enjoyable. The new Horde mode is fun as well, although I don't like that they added classes. this is probably my most played Xbox game at the moment.

overall I'd say it's worth a buy if you're a fan, but if you never got into Gears this isn't going to be the one to sway your opinion
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chill02
04/14/17 8:21:15 PM
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for what it's worth, I had fun in Horde mode but I never managed to finish a full match because people kept quitting or dying
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-RetroActive-
04/14/17 10:10:06 PM
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green butter posted...

dang. well ill probably give it a shot anyway. do i need to play judgement in order to follow the story or was that a separate thing?

also is there another carmine? i always liked carmine
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chill02
04/14/17 11:05:01 PM
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do you mean if there's a character wearing a full face helmet? there's now quite a few, both male and female
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iosifsvoboda
04/14/17 11:05:57 PM
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It seems exactly the same to me.
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HeyPuff
04/14/17 11:11:41 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Also curious to know this. 2&3 were absolute masterpieces.


I'll assume you mean single player, because multiplayer was terrible...yet, I still had fun.

At least in 2. 3 was solid.
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04/14/17 11:28:12 PM
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chill02 posted...
do you mean if there's a character wearing a full face helmet? there's now quite a few, both male and female

specifically a carmine tho. cause gears 1, 2 and 3 each had a different carmine brother
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chill02
04/14/17 11:29:35 PM
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ooooh, don't think so
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-RetroActive-
04/14/17 11:34:14 PM
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aw man :/
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04/15/17 12:16:13 AM
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i like how kim says ive got the code again lol

two levels in and this feels like a greatest hits of gears 1 except you don't play as the good characters. i don't even know who I'm supposed to be. some random private?
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-RetroActive-
04/15/17 12:19:36 AM
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wait nvm this is still the prologue
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04/15/17 1:35:57 AM
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i could've sworn I just heard reyna yell "carmine!" before shooting down the helicopter

im done for the night. so far i don't care about any of the characters but reyna seems like a badass
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weapon_d00d816
04/15/17 1:39:51 AM
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i could've sworn I just heard reyna yell "carmine!" before shooting down the helicopter

im done for the night. so far i don't care about any of the characters but reyna seems like a badass

Yep, there's a Gary Carmine but I think he's just some background cameo in campaign. You can use him in multiplayer.
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green butter
04/15/17 11:01:57 AM
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@-RetroActive- how are you liking it so far? ive been playing gears 4 all this morning and i think i was just a little too hard on it. campaign is not the best but it's still a fun game and multiplayer is really addictive
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pinky0926
04/15/17 11:03:28 AM
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HeyPuff posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Also curious to know this. 2&3 were absolute masterpieces.


I'll assume you mean single player, because multiplayer was terrible...yet, I still had fun.

At least in 2. 3 was solid.


I mean the campaign. Gears of War multiplayer campaign was some of the best multiplayer couch co-op ever conceived.
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-RetroActive-
04/15/17 4:25:34 PM
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green butter posted...
@-RetroActive- how are you liking it so far? ive been playing gears 4 all this morning and i think i was just a little too hard on it. campaign is not the best but it's still a fun game and multiplayer is really addictive

it's pretty entertaining. i just got to the part with marcus and the locust so it looks like it's getting better. i still don't like any of the characters tho. haven't tried the multiplayer yet
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chill02
04/15/17 5:48:30 PM
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seeing Marcus only made me wish I was playing as him instead of his son
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ROBANN_88
04/15/17 6:03:37 PM
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are they the locust again?

how do they explain that?
considering they all died in Gears 3
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chill02
04/15/17 6:04:00 PM
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I didn't get to that part >->
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Joenage
04/15/17 6:06:41 PM
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When I beat the final boss and realised the ending was kicking in, I was just thinking "is that it?"
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04/15/17 6:15:55 PM
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chill02 posted...
seeing Marcus only made me wish I was playing as him instead of his son

right?? his son is bland af

im not sure that they're locust. there was just a quick cutscene of alien baddies then back to killing robots
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chill02
04/15/17 6:36:10 PM
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I would have rather played as Del or... what's the name of the female squadmate? They seem to have a bit more going on than JD

or hell, Reyna was a perfectly good character they threw away after two hours in
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chill02
04/15/17 6:37:37 PM
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also, I guess I'm missing some background because I haven't played 2 and 3, but why is the COG considered so bad that people left to live in the woods?
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Steelix500
04/15/17 6:43:59 PM
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There is a Carmine in the game. He's one of those villagers that helps you fend off the robot attack. He ends up getting crushed by one of those cubes that come out of the plane.
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Back_Stabbath
04/15/17 6:49:09 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
are they the locust again?

how do they explain that?
considering they all died in Gears 3

They didn't really "die", their bodies turned into this impenetrable crystal that the COG had to bury because they couldn't destroy them. The Swarm is the "successor" to the Locust. There is one specific enemy type of the swarm, Scions, who are ex-locust who survived went back underground for 25 years, and evolved. The new enemy types have yet to be properly explained, I think. Guessing it's along similar lines though (the weapon mutating and evolving the Locust instead of destroying them as thought).
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chrono625
04/15/17 9:41:43 PM
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It's a short game.

It's main characters don't have the charm of the original cast.

Marcus Fenix is still one of my favorite video game protagonists and he is sorely missed as the main lead.

His son just doesn't have that bravado, that grit.

The rehashing is a bit of a disappointment.

It's definitely the least favorable of the 4 main games. I never played judgement.

and they are locusts. The end of 3 put them into a cacoon like state where they went through a metamorphosis. They are basically a hivemind less locust now.
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04/16/17 5:11:42 PM
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chill02 posted...
also, I guess I'm missing some background because I haven't played 2 and 3, but why is the COG considered so bad that people left to live in the woods?

idk maybe that was explained in judgement. the COG were still the good guys in 3 iirc

Steelix500 posted...
There is a Carmine in the game. He's one of those villagers that helps you fend off the robot attack. He ends up getting crushed by one of those cubes that come out of the plane.

i must've missed that part. i just saw him for a split second and when i turned around he was gone

i'm at the part where marcus gets captured by one of those things and we're tracking it down. im warming up to del and kait more but JD is such a cliche protagonist. maybe it's just that he had big shoes to fill being marcus' son but idk, i feel like i'm playing as jai courtney and that isn't good
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chill02
04/16/17 6:28:41 PM
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there we go, he's basically Jai Courtney :(
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-RetroActive-
04/16/17 7:58:39 PM
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oh well. act 3 was a huge step up from the first two. i really hope marcus ends up banging kait by the end of this
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green butter
04/16/17 8:00:07 PM
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oh well. act 3 was a huge step up from the first two. i really hope marcus ends up banging kait by the end of this

there's a pleasant little surprise at the end of act 4 (that you can probably guess) that makes it all worth it. but yeah i found the new characters extremely bland as well, especially JD and Kait. i miss the extreme bromance vibe of the first 3 games
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04/17/17 1:33:22 AM
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green butter posted...
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oh well. act 3 was a huge step up from the first two. i really hope marcus ends up banging kait by the end of this

there's a pleasant little surprise at the end of act 4 (that you can probably guess) that makes it all worth it. but yeah i found the new characters extremely bland as well, especially JD and Kait. i miss the extreme bromance vibe of the first 3 games

the bromance is what made the games for me. i mean obv the gameplay is incredible but they made me really care about the characters. these guys are introduced too suddenly to care about nearly as much. and im gonna guess the surprise is baird? im on act 4 ch 5 right now, think it's the last one
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04/17/17 3:21:02 PM
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Joenage posted...
When I beat the final boss and realised the ending was kicking in, I was just thinking "is that it?"

this is exactly how i feel. and i was about to say act 5 was relatively awesome but i thought there would be another act for revenge where all hell breaks loose or somethin but no. agh. i mean acts 3-5 were a lot of fun and it was nice seeing baird and cole again for 5 seconds. that ending was just super abrupt

looking forward to playing insane mode and horde though. and if multiplayer is anything like gears 3 im sure ill pour a ton of hours into it
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04/18/17 4:13:42 PM
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i don't see any of the carmines online. unless you mean the standard COG outfits but they dont have the voices of carmine :/

i'm not even sure how the card unlock system works
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-RetroActive-
04/19/17 11:22:05 PM
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starting to get a hang of multiplayer. it's actually a lot of fun and not all that different from gears 3. did they even add any new maps? i don't think ive seen one yet
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littlebro07
04/19/17 11:28:22 PM
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-RetroActive- posted...
i'm not even sure how the card unlock system works


It's really dumb unless they've updated it from launch

I recall regularly getting duplicate unlock cards. They should have just copied Halo 5's req system. It works great.
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-RetroActive-
04/20/17 6:09:16 PM
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yea you can get duplicates and sell them for scrap. idk how it was at launch but im not a fan

also i think i saw someone running around as the new carmine (he wears like a snow hat?) but i dont see him anywhere in the card unlock place. is he only as DLC?
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