Current Events > Is North Korea that bad? Or is it just propaganda?

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
Cisco
04/14/17 2:57:10 PM
#1:


Just seen this about how they've built these amazing sky scrappers in such a short period of time.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/national/15223145.Kim_Jong_Un_opens_complex_of_North_Korean_high_rise_buildings/

They might be indoctrinated but they seem happy. Who are we to say it's wrong?
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Edge
04/14/17 2:58:46 PM
#2:


How can you tell if they're happy if they're forced to smile?
---
We're here.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex
04/14/17 2:59:03 PM
#3:


They have concentration and forced labor camps.

Who are we to say it's wrong?


Humans. All humans can say that this is wrong.
---
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab
04/14/17 2:59:06 PM
#4:


Cisco posted...
They might be indoctrinated but they seem happy.

Have you seen any picture ever taken of North Koreans?
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex
04/14/17 3:00:11 PM
#5:


If tc doesn't get warned for this I'll be shocked.
---
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic
04/14/17 3:00:20 PM
#6:


... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791
04/14/17 3:00:48 PM
#7:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If tc doesn't get warned for this I'll be shocked.

Why would he be warned? People say far stupider and more offensive things on a daily basis and never get moderated.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX
04/14/17 3:01:04 PM
#8:


From what I've seen literally every person whose escaped North Korea has testify and confirmed the evils of what it is.
---
I'm Veggeta X's alt
FFBE ID: 196 912 851 750+ ATK Orlandu
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral
04/14/17 3:01:42 PM
#9:


You can actually can visit North Korea and see for yourself. We seem to keep hearing this myth that the country is closed off an entirely opaque to the outside world, but Americans visit regularly.
---
- The Admiral
... Copied to Clipboard!
Guardian-Sloth
04/14/17 3:03:05 PM
#10:


Is this a joke?
... Copied to Clipboard!
#11
Post #11 was unavailable or deleted.
Gojak_v3
04/14/17 3:06:15 PM
#12:


They are literally shorter than South Koreans cause they starve.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cisco
04/14/17 3:09:01 PM
#13:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They have concentration and forced labor camps.

Who are we to say it's wrong?


Humans. All humans can say that this is wrong.


As do half the developing world.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
04/14/17 3:09:22 PM
#14:


There's 1 city up to modern standard, rest of the entire country is literally all slum or wasteland.

That's why they're honestly pretty harmless. You only really need to take over Pyongyang. There's no point though. South Korea has long since given up on potentially helping NK because it'll actually almost destroy SK financially. US is probably gonna go in and get out and leave the country to fester. China doesn't give a shit. Nobody wins
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
dinglebutt
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cisco
04/14/17 3:10:36 PM
#15:


legendarylemur posted...
China doesn't give a s***.


China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao
04/14/17 3:12:14 PM
#16:


The Admiral posted...
You can actually can visit North Korea and see for yourself. We seem to keep hearing this myth that the country is closed off an entirely opaque to the outside world, but Americans visit regularly.


This is actually true. There is an agency which sets up tours of North Korea but there's a heavy vetting process. That and you're supposedly under surveillance 24/7 and can only take pictures of what they tell you you may.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
UrCa1988
04/14/17 3:13:10 PM
#17:


So are these actually liveable or is it like the many other empty buildings that look nice from outside but are unusable within?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Village_(North_Korea)
---
"Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot."
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
04/14/17 3:13:12 PM
#18:


Cisco posted...
legendarylemur posted...
China doesn't give a s***.


China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.

I mean I guess? Look how they treated Tibet or Taiwan. They're not exactly saints
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
dinglebutt
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex
04/14/17 3:14:35 PM
#19:


Cisco posted...
As do half the developing world.


This doesn't make it okay. (Nor is it true.)
---
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab
04/14/17 3:15:14 PM
#20:


legendarylemur posted...
Cisco posted...
legendarylemur posted...
China doesn't give a s***.


China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.

I mean I guess? Look how they treated Tibet or Taiwan. They're not exactly saints

They care about the humanitarian crisis in the sense that if the Kim regime falls, thousands of North Korean refugees begin streaming over the Yalu and into China. That's something they don't want to happen.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai
04/14/17 3:16:02 PM
#21:


nah im pretty confident its trash there
---
Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die!
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
04/14/17 3:20:04 PM
#22:


UrCa1988 posted...
So are these actually liveable or is it like the many other empty buildings that look nice from outside but are unusable within?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Village_(North_Korea)

I've seen footages of North Koreans actually living a normal life with a semi decent tv and all that and was ACTUALLY allowed to express disappointment. It was when North Korea actually goaled against Brazil in Soccer, though they got destroyed the day after.

Most likely, they actually do keep a small amount of space where people can actually live what we can modernly call a life.
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
dinglebutt
... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic
04/14/17 3:20:07 PM
#23:


legendarylemur posted...
Cisco posted...
legendarylemur posted...
China doesn't give a s***.


China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.

I mean I guess? Look how they treated Tibet or Taiwan. They're not exactly saints

because that dog dalai lama is a saint lmfao
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel
04/14/17 3:24:54 PM
#24:


All the shots I see of the beautiful city, the roads are practically void of vehicles. The city looks like it should be super bustley. But its not.
---
Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves
http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX
04/14/17 3:30:39 PM
#25:


GeneralZhao posted...
This is actually true. There is an agency which sets up tours of North Korea but there's a heavy vetting process. That and you're supposedly under surveillance 24/7 and can only take pictures of what they tell you you may.

I've always wondered why, as bad as N Korea is, why would they let anyone into their country.
---
I'm Veggeta X's alt
FFBE ID: 196 912 851 750+ ATK Orlandu
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
04/14/17 3:33:39 PM
#26:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
GeneralZhao posted...
This is actually true. There is an agency which sets up tours of North Korea but there's a heavy vetting process. That and you're supposedly under surveillance 24/7 and can only take pictures of what they tell you you may.

I've always wondered why, as bad as N Korea is, why would they let anyone into their country.

To keep up appearances. People who have gone outside the permitted zones have often been reported permanently missing or held as captive until another government is forced to negotiate
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
dinglebutt
... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan
04/14/17 3:35:04 PM
#27:


ModLogic posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Cisco posted...
legendarylemur posted...
China doesn't give a s***.


China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.

I mean I guess? Look how they treated Tibet or Taiwan. They're not exactly saints

because that dog dalai lama is a saint lmfao

What the fuck is wrong with you
---
Posted with GameRaven 3.2
... Copied to Clipboard!
#28
Post #28 was unavailable or deleted.
DarkChozoGhost
04/14/17 3:39:02 PM
#29:


Cisco posted...
China probably cares about the humanitarian crisis.

This is actually a hilarious statement in any context
---
My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds
3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115
... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic
04/14/17 3:40:46 PM
#30:


CowboyDan posted...

What the f*** is wrong with you

so you are in support of slavery like the dalai lama is

oh wait we aren't supposed to mention that
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex
04/14/17 3:43:21 PM
#31:


ModLogic posted...
support of slavery like the dalai lama is


Source?
---
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
... Copied to Clipboard!
twitterfriends
04/14/17 3:45:07 PM
#32:


The United States is very good at propaganda.

They have painted Kim Jong Un as some of cartoon character, but look who Trump is - literally a fat orange clown.
---
#NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #PathOfExile #WolfPAC #FireBannon
#WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags
... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic
04/14/17 3:50:36 PM
#33:


... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22
04/14/17 3:50:43 PM
#34:


Almost every legitimate human rights group or organization has attacked and called out NK for the clear violations they commit. Do not believe the garbage about allowing tourists and visitors. Not only do they have an extremely hard vetting process, they have you under surveillance the entire time, restrict where you are allowed to go, restrict what can be filmed or reported upon, etc.

There's extermination of prisoners, rape, legal torture, forced abortion, and multiple other atrocities. The sale of children is fucking legal. North Korea is an utter shit hole, and no one should ever say otherwise.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016/country-chapters/north-korea
... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791
04/14/17 3:51:34 PM
#35:


Yeah their "tourism" program is pretty much just taking you through a theme park of sights designed to make them look good.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
mario masta
04/14/17 3:56:12 PM
#36:


ONLY Korea is BEST Korea
---
...I guess...
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181
04/14/17 4:02:00 PM
#37:


twitterfriends posted...
The United States is very good at propaganda.

They have painted Kim Jong Un as some of cartoon character, but look who Trump is - literally a fat orange clown.


imagine hating Trump so much that you start liking Kim Jong Un just to spite Trump
---
sigless user is me or am I?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills
04/14/17 10:11:43 PM
#38:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If tc doesn't get warned for this I'll be shocked.


shocked yet?
---
You have the right to remain silent, anything you post will be misquoted, then used against you.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel
04/15/17 1:09:41 PM
#39:


twitterfriends posted...
The United States is very good at propaganda.

They have painted Kim Jong Un as some of cartoon character, but look who Trump is - literally a fat orange clown.

Looks propaganda has worked on you too
---
Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves
http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
04/15/17 1:14:08 PM
#40:


What a stupid question in the age of the internet.
---
Oda break tracker 2017- 2 (1)
Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE
... Copied to Clipboard!
Wutobliteration
04/15/17 1:23:14 PM
#41:


Fun fact: NK specifically built fanciful houses and decorations near the Korean border just so they look good from the outside.

In the same way, tourists in NK are only presented what they're intended to see. Try running off to photo something else and tthey'll go mad over you
... Copied to Clipboard!
Wutobliteration
04/15/17 1:24:21 PM
#42:


TC must be those that be like, ''hey guys, I'm being skeptic and defying common belief. I'm so cool!''

either that or seriously naive.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cisco
04/15/17 1:34:24 PM
#43:


Wutobliteration posted...
TC must be those that be like, ''hey guys, I'm being skeptic and defying common belief. I'm so cool!''

either that or seriously naive.


How dare people question what they are told!
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex
04/15/17 4:37:21 PM
#44:


Ricemills posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If tc doesn't get warned for this I'll be shocked.


shocked yet?


Yeah actually.
Defending/denying a country with concentration camps not being mod worthy seems like a new low for the mods.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoeryong_concentration_camp
---
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali
... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl
04/15/17 4:39:30 PM
#45:


It's mostly propaganda

But it's still a pretty bad place to live

Hard to really judge how bad since it isn't like we can see the crime rates, drug use, average life spans, etc.
---
Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020
IGN: Vanessa
... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2
04/15/17 4:40:53 PM
#46:


Wutobliteration posted...
Fun fact: NK specifically built fanciful houses and decorations near the Korean border just so they look good from the outside.

In the same way, tourists in NK are only presented what they're intended to see. Try running off to photo something else and tthey'll go mad over you


Yeah, all the good stuff they allow to be photographed or recorded is usually propaganda
---
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten
04/15/17 4:42:34 PM
#47:


100% of the people born and raised in North Korea that have managed to leave, have said that the place is total shit. Nobody likes it there, except Kim Jong Un.
... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp
04/15/17 4:48:25 PM
#48:


I hear about the atrocities, but every picture I see of North Korea has people with giant smiles on their faces. I'm not entirely sure what to believe.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22
04/15/17 4:55:14 PM
#49:


gunplagirl posted...
Hard to really judge how bad since it isn't like we can see the crime rates, drug use, average life spans, etc


Tbh that's one of the biggest red flags to how bad things are. They don't even pretend to put out information to give some clarity, and why do that if you're not full of shit?
... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl
04/15/17 4:58:58 PM
#50:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Hard to really judge how bad since it isn't like we can see the crime rates, drug use, average life spans, etc


Tbh that's one of the biggest red flags to how bad things are. They don't even pretend to put out information to give some clarity, and why do that if you're not full of shit?

True enough.
---
Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020
IGN: Vanessa
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2