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Scorsese2002 04/14/17 8:59:19 AM #1: |
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/14/mother-all-bombs-kills-36-islamic-state-militants-afghanistan-officials-say.html
Afghanistan officials said 36 Islamic State militants were killed when the U.S. dropped the “mother of all bombs” on a tunnel complex Thursday. The Afghanistan Ministry of Defense added in a statement Friday that there were no civilian casualties and that several Islamic State caves and ammunition caches were destroyed. The GBU-43B, a 21,000-pound conventional bomb, was deployed in Nangarhar Province close to the Afghanistan/Pakistan border. The MOAB -- Massive Ordnance Air Blast -- is also known as the “Mother Of All Bombs.” It was first tested in 2003, but hadn't been used in combat before Thursday. President Trump told media Thursday afternoon that "this was another successful mission" and he gave the military total authorization. Pentagon spokesman Adam Stump said the bomb had been brought to Afghanistan "some time ago" for potential use. The bomb explodes in the air, creating air pressure that can make tunnels and other structures collapse. It can be used at the start of an offensive to soften up the enemy, weakening both its infrastructure and morale. "As [ISIS'] losses have mounted, they are using IEDs, bunkers and tunnels to thicken their defense," Gen. John Nicholson, commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, said in a statement. "This is the right munition to reduce these obstacles and maintain the momentum of our offensive against [ISIS]." The MOAB had to be dropped out of the back of a U.S. Air Force C-130 cargo plane due to its massive size. "We kicked it out the back door," one U.S. official told Fox News. Ismail Shinwari, the governor of Achin district, said the U.S. attack was carried out in a remote mountainous area with no civilian homes nearby. He said there has been heavy fighting in the area in recent weeks between Afghan forces and ISIS militants. Hakim Khan, 50, a resident of Achin district where the attack took place, welcomed the attack on ISIS, saying: "I want 100 times more bombings on this group." The strike came just days after a Green Beret was killed fighting ISIS in Nangarhar, however, a U.S. defense official told Fox News the bombing had nothing to do with that casualty. “It was the right weapon for the right target, and not in retaliation,” the official said. The U.S. estimates that between 600 to 800 ISIS fighters are present in Afghanistan, mostly in Nangarhar. The U.S. has concentrated heavily on combatting them while also supporting Afghan forces battling the Taliban. In August, a company of nearly 150 Army Rangers killed "hundreds" of ISIS fighters in Nangarhar, though five of the Rangers were shot. Some weapons and equipment, including communications gear and a rocket launcher, were also left behind following the operation. --- R.I.P. GameFAQs Throwback Mode ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 04/14/17 9:08:35 AM #2: |
More blood on Trump's hands...
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Anarchy_Juiblex 04/14/17 9:15:24 AM #3: |
One MOAB costs about $16 million
36 ISIS members. $445k a head. Why doesn't the U.S. just start paying a quarter of that, ~$100k per ISIS scalp? I'm sure it's not legal under international law but that would get the job done. I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job. Fuck, that's only $80m to get them out of Afghanistan. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/14/17 9:15:41 AM #4: |
A great success
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Lorenzo_2003 04/14/17 9:29:30 AM #5: |
Scorsese2002 posted...
Lol, that guy sounds metal as fuck. Too bad he doesn't know a young coed will inevitably be condemning him soon for being racist and Islamophobic against ISIS. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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D-Lo_BrownTown 04/14/17 9:37:05 AM #6: |
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twitterfriends 04/14/17 10:17:21 AM #7: |
That's the "Mother of all Bombs", we going to get bankrupt like Trump University.
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Lonestar2000 04/14/17 10:21:19 AM #8: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
One MOAB costs about $16 million This was more about collapsing their tunnels than killing people. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DawkinsNumber4 04/14/17 10:25:31 AM #9: |
Those tunnels wouldn't even be there if the CIA didn't pay for them to be built.
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Saloonist 04/14/17 10:26:20 AM #10: |
Also people would just start killing their old enemies, and claim that they're ISIS.
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Banana_Cyanide 04/14/17 10:27:56 AM #11: |
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Those tunnels wouldn't even be there if the CIA didn't pay for them to be built. You don't know much about Afghanistan do you? --- Who knew bananas could be so lethal? Proud member of The Church of The God-Emperor of Man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psycho_Poodle 04/14/17 10:28:23 AM #12: |
This is wrong. They should have been arrested and given due process in court, not murdered with a bomb.
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Darkman124 04/14/17 10:28:38 AM #13: |
Lonestar2000 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...One MOAB costs about $16 million yeah, counting casualties here is not the relevant detail. it's their materiel losses that will matter but it really does drill home that war is incredibly inefficient and pretty much never pays for itself anymore. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pics_nao_plz 04/14/17 10:32:15 AM #15: |
Damn that 25 kill streak
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Roxborough4Ever 04/14/17 10:33:42 AM #16: |
Banana_Cyanide posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...Those tunnels wouldn't even be there if the CIA didn't pay for them to be built. its you who is not in the know. --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WindMouseHanpan 04/14/17 10:37:39 AM #17: |
36 sounds like a very small number for such a huge bomb. I was hoping for several hundred.
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Bok_Choi 04/14/17 10:39:02 AM #18: |
Psycho_Poodle posted...
This is wrong. They should have been arrested and given due process in court, not murdered with a bomb. ...do you know what ISIS is? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/14/17 10:42:13 AM #19: |
Every one of those 36 people may have killed hundreds if they were left alive. They definitely wanted to. I hate Trump, and I hate war, but I'm not gonna act like this is necessarily a thing to bash him for.
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Vyrulisse 04/14/17 10:44:11 AM #20: |
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hockeybub89 04/14/17 10:45:20 AM #21: |
Awesome. We probably stopped Islamic terrorism for about 3 minutes this time.
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eston 04/14/17 10:46:23 AM #23: |
In fairness, the humans were not the primary target here. It was not a highly populated area.
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The Admiral 04/14/17 10:48:01 AM #24: |
Considering the money on the bomb was already spent (likely under Obama) and it was going to lay wasted if not used, I have issue with this. Killing 36 ISIS members is still a small step in the right direction.
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iosifsvoboda 04/14/17 10:48:39 AM #25: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
One MOAB costs about $16 million Where did you read it cost 16m? I read it cost 316m --- ^_^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 04/14/17 10:51:10 AM #26: |
The Admiral posted...
Considering the money on the bomb was already spent (likely under Obama) and it was going to lay wasted if not used, I have issue with this. Killing 36 ISIS members is still a small step in the right direction. But what if Iran actually decides to pursue a nuclear bomb and we need our bunker busters to bust actual bunkers? --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iosifsvoboda 04/14/17 10:53:02 AM #27: |
"Omg have you seen the expiration date on this MOAB? I know what they're having for dinner tonight!"
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Anarchy_Juiblex 04/14/17 10:53:12 AM #28: |
iosifsvoboda posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...One MOAB costs about $16 million Well first off, $316m is insane, stupid and unbelievable, 2nd, $316m is the development cost, $16m is the unit cost. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast#Cost_and_description --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 04/14/17 10:57:18 AM #29: |
The Admiral posted...
Considering the money on the bomb was already spent (likely under Obama) and it was going to lay wasted if not used, I have issue with this. Killing 36 ISIS members is still a small step in the right direction. DAMN YOU OBAMA!!!! Nope, Bush, 2003. First used by Trump, 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast#Operational_use Weapons that are deployed, can't be re-used. Bombs at least. Keeping them, is keeping the threat of them. Wasting one is wasting the money that was invested. You know better. I know you understand opportunity cost n such. You wouldn't justify a wantonly inefficient waste of tax pay money elsewhere. Also, this begs the question on where you stand on the debt ceiling debate, because it's money already spent. You logic is basically Nelson's. "Gotta nuke something." --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 04/14/17 10:59:02 AM #30: |
The Admiral posted...
Considering the money on the bomb was already spent (likely under Obama) and it was going to lay wasted if not used, I have issue with this. Killing 36 ISIS members is still a small step in the right direction. Yeah just like killing Saddam and Osama helped stop terrorism and oppression. Oh wait. That topic about the current world fighting WWII might have been on to something. Nowadays, it would take us centuries to defeat the Nazis. If we just do what isn't working long enough, then maybe it will start working. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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twitterfriends 04/14/17 10:59:18 AM #31: |
You know exactly what happened after the MOAB dropped they ordered another one to replace it. So it is silly to say "the money is already spent".
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LightHawKnight 04/14/17 11:31:44 AM #32: |
Lonestar2000 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...One MOAB costs about $16 million And getting those ammo caches and other resources they squirreled away. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 04/14/17 11:37:09 AM #33: |
This was obviously a message to the world. That was the point of using such a large weapon
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pikachupwnage 04/14/17 11:41:19 AM #34: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
One MOAB costs about $16 million Lol. The bomb also collapsed their tunnels which was the main goal. It's kinda hard to collapse massive tunnel networks with just some mercenaries which is most certainly not a realistic solution in this day and age. --- Corrin Skills! Locktouch Profiteer, Renewal Replicate Miracle. Address 04757-49018-45939-85044 http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kakkeron 04/14/17 11:43:23 AM #35: |
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 04/14/17 11:46:26 AM #36: |
EnragedSlith posted...
This was obviously a message to the world. That was the point of using such a large weapon I mean not really What message would it send that the rest of the world doesn't already know? --- i need a sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spidey5 04/14/17 11:47:32 AM #37: |
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
EnragedSlith posted...This was obviously a message to the world. That was the point of using such a large weapon "It's bigger than yours" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant 04/14/17 11:48:30 AM #38: |
Spidey5 posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...EnragedSlith posted...This was obviously a message to the world. That was the point of using such a large weapon Everyone already knew that though And they already knew we'd be willing to use our bigger weapons. --- i need a sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FUimSocksForWok 04/14/17 11:49:56 AM #39: |
We need to drop more of these.
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Turbam 04/14/17 11:56:27 AM #40: |
I'm glad no civilians were hurt
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spudger 04/14/17 11:57:44 AM #41: |
That's it?
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SK8T3R215 04/14/17 11:58:41 AM #42: |
twitterfriends posted...
You know exactly what happened after the MOAB dropped they ordered another one to replace it. So it is silly to say "the money is already spent". [citation needed] --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/14/17 12:04:41 PM #43: |
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
Every one of those 36 people may have killed hundreds if they were left alive. They definitely wanted to. I hate Trump, and I hate war, but I'm not gonna act like this is necessarily a thing to bash him for. THAT isn't what he's being bashed for. But its kinda like if you have an rat infestation and use a giant mallet to crush 2 or 3 of them....you still have the infestation, killing those few didn't really weaken the other rats...the only difference is in that scenario you still have the mallet....we just wasted a multi-million dollar weapon on something that didn't need to be used to accomplish that... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 04/14/17 12:09:01 PM #44: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...Every one of those 36 people may have killed hundreds if they were left alive. They definitely wanted to. I hate Trump, and I hate war, but I'm not gonna act like this is necessarily a thing to bash him for. What? General Nicholson decided to use this as part of their offensive as it would clear many obstacles in that area instead of sending soldiers in the caves to clear them themselves. It's not like this bombing was to end ISIS all together. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlsGodDontBanMe 04/14/17 12:10:20 PM #45: |
Trump actually kills a decent amount of isis and collapses their tunnel system with no civilian casulties and you guys still bitch about it.
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spudger 04/14/17 12:11:05 PM #46: |
PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
Trump actually kills a decent amount of isis and collapses their tunnel system with no civilian casulties and you guys still bitch about it. Jesus christ, Obama did this shit all the time andall you guys did was bitch about it. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlsGodDontBanMe 04/14/17 12:13:16 PM #47: |
I never once complained about obama using drone strikes to take out terrorists
Even when he had civilian casualties I certainly never bashed him because "omg so expensive" Jfc. You guys will find anything to bash trump about when this is one of the very few things to actually give a thumbs up about --- Paintballreturns:Jesus Christ Raptor you're a terrible Mod stop banning me because you're butthurt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 04/14/17 12:21:38 PM #48: |
Every bomb we have that isn't dropped is wasted tax payer money.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/14/17 1:08:24 PM #49: |
spudger posted...
PlsGodDontBanMe posted...Trump actually kills a decent amount of isis and collapses their tunnel system with no civilian casulties and you guys still bitch about it. So it's okay to be just like the people that complained about Obama constantly? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 04/14/17 5:00:00 PM #50: |
PlsGodDontBanMe posted...
Jfc. You guys will find anything to bash trump about when this is one of the very few things to actually give a thumbs up about he's totally reversed his campaign rhetoric I didn't vote for him, but a lot of my libertarian friends did on the basis of his supposed anti-interventionist stances to be fair, though, he did say he was going to bomb the shit out of ISIS and this is in Afghanistan not Syria so I guess you can message this pro-Trump --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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