Current Events > MOAB kills 36 Islamic State militants, Afghanistan officials say

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Is that a lot?

Such a waste of resources
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I just wonder what it did to the wildlife and ecosystem
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/magazine/lost-at-tora-bora.html?_r=0


Excerpt:

"The first time bin Laden had seen the Tora Bora caves, he had been a young mujahedeen fighter and a recent university graduate with a degree in civil engineering. It had been some 20 years before, during Washington's first Afghan war, the decade-long, C.I.A.-financed jihad of the 1980's against the Soviet occupation. Rising to more than 13,000 feet, 35 miles southwest of the provincial capital of Jalalabad, Tora Bora was a fortress of snow-capped peaks, steep valleys and fortified caves. Its miles of tunnels, bunkers and base camps, dug deeply into the steep rock walls, had been part of a C.I.A.-financed complex built for the mujahedeen. Bin Laden had flown in dozens of bulldozers and other pieces of heavy equipment from his father's construction empire, the Saudi Binladin Group, one of the most prosperous construction companies in Saudi Arabia and throughout the Persian Gulf. According to one frequently told story, bin Laden would drive one of the bulldozers himself across the precipitous mountain peaks, constructing defensive tunnels and storage depots.

Indeed, by December 2001, when the final battle of Tora Bora took place, the cave complex had been so refined that it was said to have its own ventilation system and a power system created by a series of hydroelectric generators; bin Laden is believed to have designed the latter. Tora Bora's walls and the floors of its hundreds of rooms were finished and smooth and extended some 350 yards into the granite mountain that enveloped them.

Now, as the last major battle of the war in Afghanistan began, hidden from view inside the caves were an estimated 1,500 to 2,000 well-trained, well-armed men. A mile below, at the base of the caves, some three dozen U.S. Special Forces troops fanned out. They were the only ground forces that senior American military leaders had committed to the Tora Bora campaign."
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GOATTHlEF posted...

I hope we get some videos of the light show. This sounds awesome AF exploud

relevant pokemon usage
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghan-official-massive-us-bomb-death-toll-rises-to-94/ar-BBzRgY9?li=BBmkt5R

Up to 94 militants now
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Wouldn't putting PMC bounties on their head be chaper? That seems like a huge investment to kill a handful of trooops.

Scorsese2002 posted...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghan-official-massive-us-bomb-death-toll-rises-to-94/ar-BBzRgY9?li=BBmkt5R

Up to 94 militants now

Trump with that increasing efficiency
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

iosifsvoboda posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

One MOAB costs about $16 million

36 ISIS members.

$445k a head.


Why doesn't the U.S. just start paying a quarter of that, ~$100k per ISIS scalp? I'm sure it's not legal under international law but that would get the job done.

I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job. Fuck, that's only $80m to get them out of Afghanistan.

Where did you read it cost 16m? I read it cost 316m

Well first off, $316m is insane, stupid and unbelievable, 2nd, $316m is the development cost, $16m is the unit cost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast#Cost_and_description

You guys are both wrong. $170,000 to produce.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

One MOAB costs about $16 million

36 ISIS members.

$445k a head.


Why doesn't the U.S. just start paying a quarter of that, ~$100k per ISIS scalp? I'm sure it's not legal under international law but that would get the job done.

I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job. Fuck, that's only $80m to get them out of Afghanistan.

Good thing they only spent 170,000 on the MOAB.
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So we can stop blaming/praising Trump for this, looks like the general had authority before he was even elected.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/moab-strike-didn-t-need-trump-s-approval-officials-say-n746806

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

One MOAB costs about $16 million

36 ISIS members.

$445k a head.


Why doesn't the U.S. just start paying a quarter of that, ~$100k per ISIS scalp? I'm sure it's not legal under international law but that would get the job done.

I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job. Fuck, that's only $80m to get them out of Afghanistan.

it cost less than 200k
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Scorsese2002 posted...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/afghan-official-massive-us-bomb-death-toll-rises-to-94/ar-BBzRgY9?li=BBmkt5R

Up to 94 militants now

damn. they got rekt.
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So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

I came here to post something like this
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The Admiral posted...

So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.

plus they used ordinance that was about to expire. theyre wiping out ISIS for free.
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Oystersoup posted...

Is that a lot?

It is quite a bit. Not a devastating loss, though. But definitely a painful loss.
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The Admiral posted...

So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.

After they used caves that we paid for when we trained Bin Laden...oops....
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ChainedRedone posted...

Oystersoup posted...

Is that a lot?

It is quite a bit. Not a devastating loss, though. But definitely a painful loss.

But they have over 20,000 fighters. The cost per kill is insanely high. Not only that, but if this is the whole plan to eliminate ISIS, the price will skyrocket. On top of that, those despicable bastards will probably start using human shields if missile strikes become the favored method.

meingott posted...

The Admiral posted...

So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.

plus they used ordinance that was about to expire. theyre wiping out ISIS for free.

The thing is, in light of new evidence, fucking cool.

That's the difference between the left and right, generally.
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The Admiral posted...

So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.

Still a waste of time and effort. We need to get the hell out of the Middle East. Fuck 'em.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job.

Sadly, we don't live in the fantasy world of Hollywood imagination where invincible ex-Special Forces types are ten a penny and it only takes half a dozen Americans to win a whole war.
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Funkdamental posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

I'm sure there are countless mercenaries willing to do the job.

Sadly, we don't live in the fantasy world of Hollywood imagination where invincible ex-Special Forces types are ten a penny and it only takes half a dozen Americans to win a whole war.

We live in the real world where tossing bombs at sand for a decade and a half doesn't rid the world of ideologies, especially if you want to be ethical about it and not murder innocents in the process.
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hockeybub89 posted...

The Admiral posted...

So in actuality they wiped out over 10% of the remaining ISIS forces in Afghanistan for only $170,000?

LOL, we won't see another liberal posting in this topic.

Still a waste of time and effort. We need to get the hell out of the Middle East. Fuck 'em.

Any time spent killing ISIS is time well spent.
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