Current Events > What do conservatives plan to do about automation?

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Neo7 posted...

TC completely overestimates that people are competent with technology and can exist without a large IT department supporting said tech.

well I'm not really trying to take a side on this but that is a good point I didn't really consider. Still though, I don't think everyone in the future can just work for IT.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

i'm not arguing over whether or not it fits the first definition. i'm arguing that the first definition is incomplete by the standards of the modern usage of the word.

Except it's complete by the standards of the modern usage of the word. You saying that "nobody uses it in that way" doesn't mean that's the case.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

CableZL posted...

Hell, even in my line of work, I deal primarily with robots. Routers, switches, and firewall are essentially just robots.

okay, ask your IT tech to help you with the router robot next time you are having issues with it. see how much you get mocked.

I am the IT tech, and I understand that they're essentially robots.
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Most people would call this a robot. it does not look or even sound like a human.
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fenderbender321 posted...

If we all stopped turning to the government to "do" something about stuff, we could all work together and come up with better solutions.

like?
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fenderbender321 posted...

If we all stopped turning to the government to "do" something about stuff, we could all work together and come up with better solutions.

Like magic. We could try magic.
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What about industrial robots?
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DuranOfForcena posted...

then tell your boss the next time it craps out that you need to order a new router robot. see what kind of puzzled reaction you get.

Calling it a router robot would be redundant and pointless. "Router" would suffice. It still doesn't change the fact that it's a robot. By me calling it a router, he would understand that it's a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

boy i'm sure having fun browsing the internet robot on my computer robot

typing on my keyboard robot and clicking on things with my mouse robot

... Give it a rest.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

boy i'm sure having fun browsing the internet robot on my computer robot

typing on my keyboard robot and clicking on things with my mouse robot

Adding the word "robot" to things that don't need the word added makes you sound dumb.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

exactly my point

like calling a f***ing self checkout at a grocery a robot

That's not your point at all. It makes you sound dumb because it's redundant, and people understand what you're referring to without adding the word robot on. That doesn't mean the devices aren't robots.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

DarkDragon400 posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

boy i'm sure having fun browsing the internet robot on my computer robot

typing on my keyboard robot and clicking on things with my mouse robot

Adding the word "robot" to things that don't need the word added makes you sound dumb.

exactly my point

like calling a fucking self checkout at a grocery store a robot

No, more like calling an ATM "the ATM machine".
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I'm just trying to explain it to you since I actually understand what I'm talking about. You don't have to get so angry about it.
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rekt

DuranOfForcena posted...

CableZL posted...

I actually understand what I'm talking about.

nope

Actually, I do. That's why I'm a network engineer, because I actually understand how routers, switches, firewalls, etc. function, and I can design, implement, manage, and troubleshoot enterprise level networks.

All of those devices I mention fit the definition of "robot" that I bolded very well.
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jesus christ guys why does it matter what you call it lol
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JRaasin posted...

jesus christ guys why does it matter what you call it lol

All labels matter
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DuranOfForcena posted...

honestly i'm just trying to help people not make fools of themselves in public by calling things like a self-checkout lane a "robot"

Why would a self-checkout lane be called a robot? The lane doesn't perform any complex functions.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

i dunno, why don't you ask @Damn_Underscore

You're the one suggesting that there are people out there calling a lane a robot when it's basically an area where people line up in a store in order to buy stuff.
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is a traffic light a robot

i am always amazed at how ignorant most people are on what automation does to the cost of wages and productivity. fear mongering about automation is one of the stupidest things you can do.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

CableZL posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

i dunno, why don't you ask @Damn_Underscore

You're the one suggesting that there are people out there calling a lane a robot when it's basically an area where people line up in a store in order to buy stuff.

Damn_Underscore posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

People on reddit exaggerate how much automation is going to take over jobs in the near future, even jobs like cashiers.

People don't like to deal with robots.

automation =/= robots

do you call the self-checkout lane at your local grocery store a robot?

It is a robot.

But why do you think the lines with human cashiers are still full even though they have the self-checkout lanes in most grocery stores now?

you were saying?

I think he misunderstood you and thought you said self-checkout machine and not self-checkout lane. A self-checkout machine is most definitely a robot as it is a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically. A self-checkout lane is just an area within a store that doesn't perform any complex functions.
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Logos posted...

i am always amazed at how ignorant most people are on what automation does to the cost of wages and productivity. fear mongering about automation is one of the stupidest things you can do.

Please due tell
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CableZL posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

honestly i'm just trying to help people not make fools of themselves in public by calling things like a self-checkout lane a "robot"

Why would a self-checkout lane be called a robot? The lane doesn't perform any complex functions.

The bigger issue with those is that it provides no useful benefit to the consumer, apart from catering to impatience.

Questionmarktarius posted...

The bigger issue with those is that it provides no useful benefit to the consumer, apart from catering to impatience.

Eh, I would argue that time saved is a very good benefit to the customer. Especially at Walmart where they regularly only have a few checkout lanes open while most of the employees are in the back working on albums.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

CableZL posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

honestly i'm just trying to help people not make fools of themselves in public by calling things like a self-checkout lane a "robot"

Why would a self-checkout lane be called a robot? The lane doesn't perform any complex functions.

The bigger issue with those is that it provides no useful benefit to the consumer, apart from catering to impatience.

a speedier checkout... who would want that...
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DuranOfForcena posted...

so are you trying to one-up me semantics argument-wise or what? you must really think you are f***ing clever.

obviously i meant self-checkout machine. there is no reason to not understand that, in the context of this discussion, "self-checkout lane" and "self-checkout machine" are synonymous. that being said, i've already made it clear that i am not arguing in any way whatsoever that anything doesn't fit the first definition of robot. i don't know why you insist on repeating that almost word for word in multiple posts now. is there something wrong with your brain? did i break you?

It's not my fault if you can't word your posts properly. Self-checkout lane" and "self-checkout machine" are not synonymous. A self-checkout lane is just an area where people line up in order to use the self-checkout machine.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

CableZL posted...

Especially at Walmart where they regularly only have a few checkout lanes open while most of the employees are in the back working on albums.

and wtf does this even mean? albums?

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DuranOfForcena posted...

now you're the one who needs to give it a rest

I'm not the one struggling to word his posts properly.
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youngfossil posted...

a speedier checkout... who would want that...

But is it, really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT-gJ14T-CU
https://fnkybee.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/images9.jpeg
http://www.thepoxbox.com/what.php?id=checkout

Logos posted...

i am always amazed at how ignorant most people are on what automation does to the cost of wages and productivity. fear mongering about automation is one of the stupidest things you can do.

@Logos how does it work then?
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GODTIER posted...

i dont think a robot would make a good lawyer

lawyering is not a single task.

It encompasses everything from reading documents to find a specific pattern or proof (discovery) to going to court, to drafting contracts and agreements.

Many of these things can indeed be automated.

Questionmarktarius posted...

youngfossil posted...

a speedier checkout... who would want that...

But is it, really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT-gJ14T-CU
https://fnkybee.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/images9.jpeg

all self checkouts are like that one crappy one right?
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youngfossil posted...

all self checkouts are like that one crappy one right?

...yes.

and good luck buying beer.