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Broncos - Selected OT Andre Smith (12th overall) and WR Mike Wallace (24th overall)

- Broncos originally owned the 24th pick and acquired the 12th pick when they let RFA SS Lewis Baker sign with the Bills

- Smith has played six games (no starts) and has 14 blocks to no sacks allowed.

- Wallace had put up a line that you would expect from a #4 WR (23 receptions for 283 yards, 2 TDs)


Browns - Selected QB Sam Bradford (18th overall) and OT Ryan Clady (25th overall)

- Browns originally owned the 25th pick and acquired the 18th pick from the Steelers in a trade that sent DE Ryan Nece to the Steelers.

- Bradford lost most of the season due to injury, but he had a 65% completion percentage and nearly 700 yards through the air.

- Clady started all 16 games and finished with a 36-4 block-sack ratio.
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Round 1 Recap
1. Utah St. MLB Bobby Wagner - Wildcats
2. Central Michigan WR Antonio Brown - Lightning
3. Florida CB Joe Haden - Dolphins
4. Virginia DE Chris Long - Titans
5. Mississippi St. OLB K.J. Wright - Jets
6. Wisconsin QB Russell Wilson - Pioneers
7. Pittsburgh HB LeSean McCoy - Colts
8. USF DE Jason Pierre-Paul - Bengals
9. Central Michigan OT Joe Staley - Lions
10. Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh - Dolphins
11. Georgia FS Reshad Jones - Raiders
12. Oregon HB LeGarrette Blount - Chiefs
13. Notre Dame WR Golden Tate - Broncos
14, Oklahoma OT Trent Williams - 49ers
15. Stanford QB Andrew Luck - Bears
16. Wake Forest MLB Aaron Curry - Browns
17. Massachusetts WR Victor Cruz - Redskins
18. Oregon HB Jonathan Stewart - Giants
19. Alabama CB Kareem Jackson - Dolphins
20. Boston College OT Anthony Castonzo - Steelers
21. Georgia QB Matthew Stafford - Vikings
22. Oklahoma St. OT Russell Okung - Jaguars
23. Oklahoma St. WR Dez Bryant - Chiefs
24. Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy - Steelers
25. Arizona St. QB Brock Osweiler - Rams
26. Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson - Hawks
27. Hillsdale OT Jared Valdheer - Buccaneers
28. Boston College MLB Luke Kuechly - Bills
29. Michigan St. DT Domata Peko - Falcons
30. Citadel CB Cortez Allen - Wildcats
31. Baylor QB Robert Griffin - Steelers
32. Kentucky MLB Danny Trevathan - Cowboys
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Browns have released HB Rudi Johnson
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Good read there, KCF. Especially for newbies like me. Thank you!

Emeraldegg posted...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_rypJpth-JxU8GBFpHkUDYKzHY3qDLHLm7zDfFZaFo4/edit?usp=sharing

Taking a first round QB would have been a smart move, no doubt. I will surely regret not getting one this year after Bulger likely retires next off-season.


Dez Bryant, huh? That's really great value. He was a top 12 prospect, correct?
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Ranlom, I was so upset when you left minutes before you picked because Andrew Luck was there for the taking and he wasn't among your queue that you sent me. I do not recall if Bryant was Top 12, but he was definitely Top 15.
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Round 2 Recap
1. Iowa St. G Kelechi Osmele - Dolphins
2. UCLA CB Alterraun Verner - Lightning
3. TCU QB Andy Dalton - Raiders
4. Florida QB Travis Doucette - Titans
5. Miami CB Sam Shields - Jets
6. Memphis G Ronald Leary - Jaguars
7. Georgia OT Cordy Glenn - Colts
8. Virginia FS Rodney McLeod - Bengals
9. Maryland WR Torrey Smith - Lions
10. Colorado OT Nate Solder - Giants
11. Florida DE Carlos Dunlap - Seahawks
12. Wyoming FS Tashaun Gipson - Steelers
13. Wisconsin SS Scott Morris - Broncos
14. Clemson HB C.J. Spiller - 49ers
15. Georgia HB Knowshon Moreno - Bears
16. Florida CB Larry Stanley - Packers
17. Texas QB Colt McCoy - Redskins
18. Virginia Tech OLB Jason Worilds - Pumpkins
19. Iowa DT Karl Klugg - Panthers
20. Ole Miss HB Dexter McCluster - Patriots
21. Louisville OT Breno Giacomini - Vikings
22. Toledo FS Barry Church - Jaguars
23. TCU OT Marshall Newhouse - Patriots
24. South Carolina OT James Carpenter - Chiefs
25. Nebraska HB Roy Helu Jr. - Rams
26. LSU DT Glenn Dorsey - Hawks
27. Virginia FS Alex Odom - Buccaneers
28. Michigan OT Sam Brooks - Bills
29. Ole Miss DE Greg Hardy - Falcons
30. Stanford OT Jonathan Martin - Ravens
31. Texas Tech CB Rian Cowen - Patriots
32. Texas A&M OT Demetrius Morgan - Cowboys
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Rounds 3 and 4 will start at approximately 3 PM ET on Saturday, March 25th
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theawesomestevr posted...

Trade to announce:

Bills receive: DT Roy Miller

Pumpkins receive: WR Santana Moss

Bumping this so I don't forget that it goes into effect if it passes at 7:51:04 PM ET.
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KCF0107 posted...

Ranlom, I was so upset when you left minutes before you picked because Andrew Luck was there for the taking and he wasn't among your queue that you sent me. I do not recall if Bryant was Top 12, but he was definitely Top 15.

No worries, i wouldn't have taken him regardless. I'd sooner start Terrance Knighton at QB than be led by Andrew Luck.
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I was actually surprised that Emerald had the Lighting taking Haden as well. I thought they could have gone in any number of directions.

KCF I had you going WR with your first pick since Haden was already taken in my mock and since your slot receiver is a FA next year I didn't know if you wanted to retain him with an established #1 and #2 WR.

stuntman, I also had you going receiver since since Smith is getting pretty old and is a FA next year. I didn't know who else you were coveting to move up in the draft to acquire as you were looking for impact players so that's where I went with that pick.

Also, it seems I had the wrong talent falling to the Chiefs! I had a Top 15 OT falling to them but instead it was a Top 15 WR. Oh well!

I can post my full analysis with my little blurbs later if anyone is interested but I think Emerald is covering most of everything!
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Well you had all my positions right, even if they were in the wrong order. And I hadn't planned on taking a DT originally as I play 3-4 and forgot how bad my backup was.

I kinda wanted to take Dez at 20 and with how many OT's there were, I probably should have since my WR1 is old and the rest of my WR's are just kinda whatever (although they are young)

I almost took a guard at #31 too since my starting guards are 35/36 and although I have backups ready to step in, I;ll need backups to them when my starting guards retire. Guard was a position I wanted to address in the 2 previous drafts but the best prospects that came through were all low rounders. I think best started at round 3 or lower in both drafts.

I maybe didn't need a QB either given I drafted one 2nd round last year and could have given him a shot. I probably would have given him a shot if he hadn't stayed static at 79 year on year. If he had gone up to like 81, I would have probably let him start

I was hesitant to get an OT since I had two 90+ in their early thirties and a third that is an 85. I am not one to spend 1st round picks on players that I am not certain will even be my top backup
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12. Lions: HB LeGarrette Blount
Emerald's pick: QB Matthew Stafford
Stan's pick: QB Matthew Stafford
Another eyebrow-raiser, the Chiefs clearly have a need at QB and not HB, or even OT with Todd Wade being 35. This one just doesn't make that much sense, unfortunately.

13. Broncos: WR Golden Tate
Emerald's pick: WR Dez Bryant
Stan's pick: WR Dez Bryant
The Broncos went off the board here, and while they still grabbed a 1st rd graded WR, they didn't grab the top one. Perhaps they see something in Tate? We'll have to see, but on the surface it's a puzzling move.

14. 49ers: OT Trent Williams
Emerald's pick: OT Anthony Costanzo
Stan's pick: OT Trent Williams
We both had the 49ers taking an OT, but I thought Williams would be gone by now which is why I went with Costanzo. The 49ers needed another quality OT to add some depth and take over the reins soon, and they got just that. Good pick.

15. Bears: QB Andrew Luck
Emerald's pick: HB LeSean McCoy
Stan's pick: HB LeGarrette Blount
This is a solid pick. The Bears have only 2 HB and the starter is over 30, but David Carr is even older, so QB was probably the more immediate need. Carr is still rated highly, so they've got time to let Luck develop before making him the starter.

16. Browns: MLB Aaron Curry
Emerald's pick: OT Russell Okung
Stan's pick: WR Golden Tate
The Browns said they were targeting MLB and to be honest, I'm not sure why. Korey Hall is 85 (which is good enough) and under 30, so he can start for quite a few more years. Curry was a reach at this point, not even being listed on the board, and we thought that WR was old, and OT was substandard, so we both thought they needed more love than MLB. I don't like the pick but we'll see if the gamble pays off.

17. Redskins: WR Victor Cruz
Emerald's pick: DT Gerald McCoy
Stan's pick: DT Gerald McCoy
I'm not sure how old the Redskins' WR corps is, but if I had to guess, it's probably old like the rest of their roster. If so, I get this pick. However, they have a single DT on their roster, who is also probably old. I would say that's a more immediate need than WR. I'd give this pick a C grade, as it still fills a need but not the biggest one, and not at the best value either.
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18. Giants: HB Jonathan Stewart
Emerald's pick: HB LeGarrette Blount
Stan's pick: HB Jonathan Stewart
Another case of me getting the position right but not the player, Edgerrin James is not long for this league, so now's the perfect time to get a future starter.

19. Dolphins: CB Kareem Jackson
Emerald's pick: QB Travis Doucette
Stan's pick: CB Kareem Jackson
My reasoning for QB is that last year, Keller got hurt for most of the season. KCF has 84 Tim Rattay who, while rated alright, is super old, so I thought hey, insurance. Kareem Jackson was a borderline 1st-2nd rd pick, and I didn't have him getting CB Joe Haden though, so I goofed big time by not having the Dolphins reach a tad to get a CB. Good on you, Stan.

20. Steelers: OT Anthony Costanzo
Emerald's pick: DT Domata Peko
Stan's pick: DT Domata Peko
I get this pick, somewhat. Stan and I both thought there was a more immediate need at DT, having only 1 rated 80+, so I think that was the way to go, but they did need a 4th OT anyway, and one of their OTs is 32, so he's approaching potential decline stage. Shattered is playing the long game, here.

21. Vikings: QB Matthew Stafford
Emerald's pick: CB Kareem Jackson
Stan's pick: HB CJ Spiller
Donovan McNabb is old, so a potential QB of the future pick here? Depends on how old Josh Portis is. If he's young, I don't like this pick at all. If he's not, then it's a good pick.

22. Jaguars: OT Russell Okung
Emerald's pick: OT Jared Valdheer
Stan's pick: DE Michael Johnson
Honestly, DE is more of a need here, but I thought Johnson was a reach so I went OT to add some young depth behind their starting OTs. A classic case of Value over Need, I don't think the Jags could have gone wrong either way.
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23. Chiefs: WR Dez Bryant
Emerald's pick: OT Nate Solder
Stan's pick: OT Anthony Costanzo
The Chiefs still need an OT at some point for the future, but how can you pass up on this insane value? Dez was a top 15 projection, the #2 WR in his class, and the Chiefs get him here at #23? What a robbery. The Chiefs also will need a stud WR after Housh retires, which isn't far off, so it's still a good pick on need alone, but man. You people should be ashamed for letting him fall this far (Looking at you, AI teams)
24. Steelers: DT Gerald McCoy
Emerald's pick: WR Golden Tate
Stan's pick: OT Russell Okung
Remember when I said DT was an immediate need 4 picks ago? The Steelers grabbed the #2 DT at #24, which is a great pick. If they had switched these picks then they would have ended up with Russell Okung, as the Jags went OT in between these picks, so this pick makes both this pick and his previous pick a lot better. Steelers have had a great draft.
25. Rams: QB Brock Osweiler
Emerald's pick: HB Jonathan Stewart
Stan's pick: HB Knowshon Moreno
Come on Rams, you have a single HB, and he's rated 81! I get they probably need a future QB but they didn't even take the best available. 2nd Worst pick of the first round award goes to the rams.
26. Hawks: DE Michael Johnson
Emerald's pick: QB RG3
Stan's pick: Travis Doucette
ONE QB ON THE ROSTER, RATED 79. ONE QB, RATED 79. Need I say more?
Worst pick of the round award goes to the Hawks. Sometimes, crazy is not good.
27. Buccaneers: OT Jared Valdheer
Emerald's pick: DE Michael Johnson
Stan's pick: OT Jared Valdheer
Good pick here, the Bucs OTs are old as dirt, so I whiffed hard on this predix. Solid need, solid value, good long-term thinking here.
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Portis was a 1st round pick two seasons ago
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I picked for the Hawks, and there's a reason why I went DE. I will bring it up when the time comes.
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Also #1 WR went 2nd overall
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28. Bills: MLB Luke Keuchly
Emerald's pick: QB Andy Dalton
Stan's pick: QB RG3
Stan and I both agreed that the Bills needed a QB, and this pick makes extra non-sense to me for 2 reason: 1) Luke was a 2nd rd graded pick, though to his credit, Stevr tried to trade back and got no offers. 2) MLB Thompson is rated 82 and is only 24, so it's not like they needed a youth option at MLB. Probably were better options on the board even if they didn't want to go QB for some reason.
29. Falcons: DT Domata Peko
Emerald's pick: OT Cordy Glenn
Stan's pick: DT Karl Klugg
Stan nailed the positional need, I whiffed super hard on this one too. I thought a 2nd rd DT was a reach here (which is what I had BPA as, since I thought Peko would be gone) but the chance to grab a 1st rd grade near the end of the 1st rd is great value. Great pick by the Falcons here.
30. Wildcats: CB Cortez Allen
Emerald's pick: OLB Jason Worilds
Stan's pick: OLB Jason Worilds
Prof diverted from what we thought was a huge need, but CB is just as huge, I will admit. Either position would have been perfectly understandable here, I think this is a solid pick by the Wildcats.
31. Steelers: QB RG3
Emerald's pick: FS Reshad Jones
Stan's pick: QB Andy Dalton
Steelers definitely needed a franchise QB, and hopefully they found one at the end of the 1st rd. Another good pick by the Steelers.
32. Cowboys: MLB Danny Trevathan
Emerald's pick: MLB Aaron Curry
Stan's pick: WR Victor Cruz
The Boys have one MLB rostered, and he's in his mid-30s. With MLBs being thin already this year, I don't blame them for reaching back a bit to grab one.
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KCF0107 posted...

Also #1 WR went 2nd overall

Fixed
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Might be biased on my end because it was a need for me last 2 years but MLB's seem to have been thin the last 3 drafts. Same as guards being thin last 3 seasons (and I've needed them all 3)

Last year I took a 2nd round MLB and I'm pretty sure it was a reach there. The year before I took an MLB in the 1st which was a slight reach (I distinctly remember there being better value at the pick). And I took another in the 3rd but that wasn't a reach.

Fortunately all 3 have worked out for me (Laurinaitis 80 > 88 in 2 seasons, Tufts flipped to OLB and 75 > 86 in 2 seasons, McClain 78 > 84 in 1 season)

Oh and i've just realized I won't be there for draft so let me throw together a draft list for my 3rd round pick!

Rounds 3 and 4 are finished. I hope to post them soon
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Round 3 Recap (listing team names first is probably better)
1. Wildcats - Miami OLB Sean Spence
2. Lightning - Boise St, DE Shea McClellin
3. Dolphins - Fresno St. HB Ryan Matthews
4. Titans - Florida St. OT Mark Merriman
5. Jets - Presbyterian SS Justin Bethel
6. Pioneers - Stanford CB Corey Shelton
7. Colts - Michigan St, OT David Robinson
8. Bengals - Texas A&M OLB Brett Mansfield
9. Lions - Arkansas St. OLB Demario Davis
10. Giants - Florida St. QB Christian Ponder
11. Raiders - Texas DE Lamarr Houston
12. Titans - Clemson TE Dwayne Allen
13. Broncos - Arkansas G Will Nelson
14. 49ers - Kentucky OT Paul Marshall
15. Bears - Texas A&M DE Greg Henderson
16. Steelers - LSU CB Demarcus McGuire
17. Redskins - Auburn QB Anthony Carter
18. Ravens - Utah St. HB Robert Turbin
19. Packers - Minnesota DE Michael Roach
20. Ravens - South Carolina OLB Greg Brown
21. Vikings - Boise St, OT Matt Walker
22. Jaguars - Texas A&M QB Tom Herron
23. Chiefs - Georgia Tech QB Logan Sullivan
24. Browns - USC CB Joe Bolden
25. Rams - Miami CB Shaun Pope
26. Hawks - Temple OLB Tahir Whitehead
27. Buccaneers - Boise St, SS Georga Iloka
28. Packers - LSU WR Brandon LaFell
29. Falcons - Oregon St, MLB Alvin Williams
30. Ravens - Alabama FS Mark Barron
31. Giants - USC OLB Malcolm Smith
32. Cowboys - Miami G Jonathan Fletcher
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Emeraldegg posted...

21. Vikings: QB Matthew Stafford
Emerald's pick: CB Kareem Jackson
Stan's pick: HB CJ Spiller

Looks like I got a second round gem then
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He was also the draft's only 20-year-old
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Round 4 Recap
1. Dolphins - LSU G Damien Bell
2. Lightning - USF FS Nate Allen
3. Raiders - California MLB Mychal Kendricks
4. Chiefs - Portland St. TE Julius Thomas
5. Jets - Mississippi St, MLB Reggie Outlaw
6. Pioneers - Auburn DT Sen'Derrick Marks
7. Colts - Iowa G Cedric Rhodes
8. Bengals - Oregon St, CB Barry Anderson
9. Lions - Alabama OLB Courtney Upshaw
10. Giants - Texas A&M G Randy Cavka
11. Seahawks - Oregon SS Walter Thurmond
12. Chiefs - L.A. Tech OT Troy Ware
13. Broncos - California C Alex Mack
14. 49ers - Florida St. DT Marcus Myers
15. Bears - Louisville C Eric Wood
16. Dolphins - Fordham SS Isa Abdul-Quddus
17. Redskins - Louisville HB Bilal Powell
18. Pumpkins - Texas A&M OT Ronnie Hall
19. Packers - Northwestern OLB Maurice Davidson
20. Packers - New Mexico HB Ben Slater
21. Vikings - Ole Miss DE Bryant Wilson
22. Jaguars - Texas A&M HB John Montgomery
23. Patriots - South Carolina FS Zach Wilson
24. Browns - Michigan HB Derek Roberts
25. Rams - Georgia Tech SS Morgan Burnett
26. Hawks - Oklahoma CB Bryan Malone
27. Buccaneers - Michigan St. OLB Mike Nelson
28. Titans - Notre Dame DT Quentin Mason
29. Falcons - Florida OLB Vince Johnson
30. Wildcats - Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clauson
31. Bills - Texas K Justin Tucker
32. Cowboys - South Carolina DE Erik Thornton
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Rounds 5-7 will be held at approximately 3 PM ET on Sunday, March 26th
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KCF0107 posted...

I picked for the Hawks, and there's a reason why I went DE. I will bring it up when the time comes.

I am really curious to see this
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To clarify, i intend to switch curry to olb.

For those tht dont madden, typically you see a 3-5 overall bump moving a middle linebacker to the outside im a 4-3 defense.

By the way, kcf, when you are able please switch mlb curry to rolb.
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I can't until you sign him, and ratings increases from positional switching aren't a sure thing in the least.
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Oh yeah, I probably should have posted an updated who owns what draft picks prior to today's draft. Sorry to those who could have used that info. I will post one for round 5-7.

The following trade is official

Bills receive: DT Roy Miller

Pumpkins receive: WR Santana Moss
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NFL Draft Order
1. Wildcats
2. Lightning
3. Seahawks
4. Titans
5. Jets
6. Pioneers
7. Colts
8. Bengals
9. Lions
10. Giants
11. Raiders
12. Chiefs
13. Broncos
14. 49ers
15. Bears
16. Packers
17. Redskins
18. Pumpkins
19. Patriots
20. Steelers
21. Vikings
22. Jaguars
23. Panthers
24. Browns
25. Rams
26. Hawks
27. Buccaneers
28. Bills
29. Falcons
30. Ravens
31. Dolphins
32. Cowboys

Bills own the Dolphins' 5th
Chiefs own the Browns' 6th
Giants own the Dolphins' 6th
Packers own the Steelers' 5th + 7th
Patriots own the Steelers' 6th, Dolphins' 7th
Raiders own the Seahawks' 6th
Titans own the Bills' 5th
Wildcats own the Giants' 6th
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Filling in my own personal spreadsheet and upon switching over my draft picks, I've just realized how good my trades ended up being.

At the last point I updated my spreadsheet I had:

Steelers 1st (20), Packers 2nd (16), Pats 2nd (19), Steelers 2nd (20), Packers 3rd (16), Pats 4th (19), Steelers 4th (20), Steelers 7th (20)

After updating it I had

Steelers 1st (20), Browns 1st (24), Miami 1st (31), Chiefs 2nd (12), Packers 3rd (16)


So after everything was said and done, I essentially paid 2x 4ths and a 7th to move up the 48th pick to the 24th, the 51st pick to the 31st and the 52nd pick to the 44th.

I should probably make a new topic tonight after the draft
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Today's the day I find out I've drafted all 78 or lower or some crap! I do not have a historically good record of drafting high rated players from the get go

Packers release:
LT Andrew McCollum
DT Dwan Edwards
SS Tony Dixon

Steelers release:
DT Aaron Jones
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Draft is over, but I will wait until creating the new topic to post full recaps and stuff
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Will toss it out here but probably again in the new topic

CB Ricky Manning (81) and QB Rex Grossman (84) are on the trading block.

Your incentive to take Grossman off my hands is it means RG3 starting in your league!

Panthers have released CB Lenny Walls and OT Damion McIntosh
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New topic
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75162668
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Today's the day I find out I've drafted all 78 or lower or some crap! I do not have a historically good record of drafting high rated players from the get go

You mean that isn't always what happens in the draft? Cause that seems to be my experience. With the exception of Rucker who I drafted way higher than a Kicker normally would be.
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