Board 8 > Apple Store accused of racial profiling

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http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/apple-customers-upset-over-policy-not-sell-iranian/nPY8H/

Be sure to read the comments for extra rage

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They do have a right to refuse sales to whomever they want, but to say it's not profiling is stupid.

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foolm0ron posted...

They do have a right to refuse sales to whomever they want

Tell that to American blacks prior to the 1960's.

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It's sort of nice to know there are 'news' sources whose comments sections are even worse than the Daily Mail.

On the upside, assuming the commenters are representative of the audience this site/station is actually trying to attract (and I'm not familiar with most US radio stations, but I've heard of Sean Hannity, and none of what I've heard is good), the article itself appears to be saying this was a bad move on Apple's part. Which the Daily Heil would probably try to twist into being entirely justified and the Iranians' fault.

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lol apple

this was even more hilarious because me and my friend have been laughing at racist stuff for the last 2 hours

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That was so bad the story crashes my browser

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what a farce....i

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Dude is appalled and still buys the phone.

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Man, that is gonna be a pr problem for the company if true.

People are getting thrown under the bus as we speak.

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It's hilarious. Apple is saying that they can't sell their stuff under export laws.

The people that are complaining aren't intending on taking it over seas. They're trying to use them HERE. The fact that they denied it to a US citizen (the girl) is hilarious

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From: DeepsPraw | #003

foolm0ron posted...

They do have a right to refuse sales to whomever they want

Tell that to American blacks prior to the 1960's.

ok

Private businesses have the right to refuse sales to whomever they want.

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Do you think that the segregation that was occurring in businesses prior to the 1960s was legal, Smartmuffin? Justifiable? Ethical?

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From: Erugios | #013

Do you think that the segregation that was occurring in businesses prior to the 1960s was legal, Smartmuffin? Justifiable? Ethical?

It was legally required. Many businesses in the south wanted to integrate, but the state governments would not allow it.

I would say that it is not ethical to refuse business with someone solely on the basis of their race.

Justifiable is not for me to judge. It's their property, they have the right to use it in whichever way they choose.

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Zack JAFARzadeh? Well, THAT ONE'S just asking for it, isn't he~? "No, no, no, we can't sell to you, you'll use it to empower your journey to become an evil ruler!"

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I work in banking and I know there are a ton of UN sanctions that stop us from letting people from certain countries open accounts with us, but this just seems to be a case of Apple trying to do someone else's job. If it's illegal to take laptops and phones to Iran, then it's customs that should be policing that, not Apple.

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From: FAHtastic | #016

I work in banking and I know there are a ton of UN sanctions that stop us from letting people from certain countries open accounts with us, but this just seems to be a case of Apple trying to do someone else's job. If it's illegal to take laptops and phones to Iran, then it's customs that should be policing that, not Apple.

If it's illegal for someone to be in this country, it's the border patrol that should be policing that, not potential employers.

Agree?

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How do these employees know Farsi when they hear it?

I mean, I would expect them to recognize that it isn't English but seriously, how many people can pick out specific middle-eastern languages?

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SmartMuffin posted...

From: FAHtastic | #016

I work in banking and I know there are a ton of UN sanctions that stop us from letting people from certain countries open accounts with us, but this just seems to be a case of Apple trying to do someone else's job. If it's illegal to take laptops and phones to Iran, then it's customs that should be policing that, not Apple.

If it's illegal for someone to be in this country, it's the border patrol that should be policing that, not potential employers.

Agree?

I'd say it was their job to report it, not police it. Kind of like how if you see a house on fire, you phone 911, not grab a bucket.

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Well, current law disagrees with you (and me!)

And generally all we hear from politicians (on both sides) is that the penalties on employers need to INCREASE.

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From: Princess Anri | #019

How do these employees know Farsi when they hear it?

I mean, I would expect them to recognize that it isn't English but seriously, how many people can pick out specific middle-eastern languages?

They didn't know what it was, they asked, and the guy responded with 'Farsi'

The wonder is that the employee knew Farsi was from Iran

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Holy crap the comments.

Just target everybody XD

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SmartMuffin posted...

From: DeepsPraw | #003

foolm0ron posted...

They do have a right to refuse sales to whomever they want

Tell that to American blacks prior to the 1960's.

ok

Private businesses have the right to refuse sales to whomever they want.

I'm pretty sure they don't based on Katzenbach v. McClung.

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From: LordoftheMorons | #024

I'm pretty sure they don't based on Katzenbach v. McClung.

Ah, the Interstate Commerce Clause. The federal government's own God Mode button.

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I said right. Not legal obligation. The government violates our rights constantly.

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As bad as this is for Apple's PR, it's a good opportunity to re-emphasize that the "love and tolerate Muslims" thing is a naive fantasy. I really hate to break it to people, but Islam and Western secularism are competing, mutually exclusive conceptions of social life.

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From: Westbrick | #027

I really hate to break it to people, but Islam and Western secularism are competing, mutually exclusive conceptions of social life.

Very solid trolling. I almost responded seriously to this one.

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foolm0ron posted...

From: Westbrick | #027

I really hate to break it to people, but Islam and Western secularism are competing, mutually exclusive conceptions of social life.

Very solid trolling. I almost responded seriously to this one.

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Not trying to derail this discussion, but too many people are going to get on Apple for being "bigoted." As if all cultures, even those with competing agendas to our own, should be respected. I find it pretty ballsy on Apple's part, although the backpedaling and DAMAGE CONTROL is imminent and inevitable.

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You realize that this policy is just against Iran, right?
If I recall my early 2000s American propaganda, Islam was all over Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Pakistan!
Or maybe you are criticizing Apple's policy for missing out on some big Islamic countries?

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From: Princess Anri | #019
How do these employees know Farsi when they hear it?

I mean, I would expect them to recognize that it isn't English but seriously, how many people can pick out specific middle-eastern languages?


I'm sure the same would have happened with any language that sounds vaguely Arabic.

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The thing about this story that confuses me the most is that it appears to be a critical failure of capitalism. Apple likes money, so why would they refuse to sell a product to someone for a stupid reason that's very out of character for a major corporation in the 21st century?

From: Paratroopa1 | #032

The thing about this story that confuses me the most is that it appears to be a critical failure of capitalism. Apple likes money, so why would they refuse to sell a product to someone for a stupid reason that's very out of character for a major corporation in the 21st century?

Because they're more concerned about being on the wrong side of the government. And for good ****ing reason...

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Westbrick posted...

As bad as this is for Apple's PR, it's a good opportunity to re-emphasize that the "love and tolerate Muslims" thing is a naive fantasy. I really hate to break it to people, but Islam and Western secularism are competing, mutually exclusive conceptions of social life.

There are many more muslims in Southeast Asian countries such as Indonesia than there are in the middle-east, yet we seem to get along just fine with them

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remember when Westbrick seemed like a decent poster