Board 8 > The new Civ expansion comes out tomorrow.

(+) Yeah! (+)

where da hype

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not here

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yes

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maybe

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only $30!

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HYPE GET 64

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"we're about 50 years behind the rest of western society." -icon on B8

price is not the issue, time to play it is!

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

boudica is on the cover who can say no



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Pricy for an expansion pack. I'll probably wait until Steam inevitably has a sale

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celtic civ is tempting to be sure

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

Ima get it. It looks amazing.

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Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously

already pre-purchased it from here for 22 bucks http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/civilization-v-gods-and-kings

too bad I have to wait until friday

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is there any reason its much cheaper on that website?

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Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously

steam has it for 10% off currently as well

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Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously

now we find out if the expansions can bring it close to civ 4 as an overall package

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it was already close (or better than) civ 4 before the expansion tbqh

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

there's too many things that 4 does well and 5 does poorly

I like how streamlined 5 is, and I like the combat

but lol to 5's diplomacy. and that's one of the best parts of 4. also where's my vassal states

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screw diplomacy kill everything

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

Already prepurchased hype.

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I denounce the mana sword

I hope the rest of you will denounce him as well and expose his treachery to the world

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your head would look good on a pole

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

p.s. bring back civ 2 advisors

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

expansion sounds pretty great, really

http://www.civilization5.com/godsandkings/us/info.php

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Diplomacy has apparently been completely rehauled. I love that in early game religion matters a lot to diplomacy, but in late game it matters way way less compared to your choice of Order, Freedom or Autocracy which I think will hopefully lead to some great late game World Wars.

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Daranix preordered this for me as an early birthday present.

Hyped.

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The Cult of Personality.

yeah expansion looks good to me too. especially if diplomacy was overhauled. that was the big missing piece of Civ 5 anyway. B8 gonna play some games early after release?

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oh my god doing more reading about changes and new stuff. so hype

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http://www.giantbomb.com/sid-meiers-civilization-v-gods-kings/61-37508/reviews/

4/5 worst ever

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I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri

STILL HYPEEEE

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livestream going on right now

http://www.twitch.tv/2K

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I'm kinda hype, but I'm also kinda poor, and so I won't be able to get it for a while, thus hindering my hype. :(

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Hype!

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From: The Mana Sword | #028
http://www.giantbomb.com/sid-meiers-civilization-v-gods-kings/61-37508/reviews/

4/5 worst ever


Canceled prepurchase, withdrew money from ATM, set it on fire, deleted Steam account, disappointment of the century.

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Waiting for inevitable steam sale to get it.

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ONLY 4/5???

WE CAN'T STAND FOR THIS!

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also a question for you people who have played online before

can we carry on a public text conversation while we play?

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Waiting for inevitable steam sale to get it.

this

vanilla civ 5 is fun enough for me, don't need to spend that much cash right now


and yes, a poor IM system is the only way to communicate in an online civ 5 game

skype works a lot better than it and is way more fun

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there's an in-game chat, yeah. you can message people individually or everyone.

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The in-game chat is fine. It functions perfectly well.

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From: OmarsComin | #036
also a question for you people who have played online before

can we carry on a public text conversation while we play?
Yes, I believe you can. Though the #tt peeps always just used IRC for that.

Also, preordered. Hype!

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as long as it's as good as what Warcraft and Starcraft has I'll be satisfied

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LETS DO THIS BYZANTIUM A GO GO

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Coincidence that a self-avowed Communist is so against democracy and traditional marriage? - SephG after misquoting me hilariously

Already in love with the fact that I can attack seaside barb encampments without worrying about getting wrecked by boats

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downloading now

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I'm liking the improvements to city-states, myself.

My first game with the expansion isn't going so hot though!

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I LOVE that religions have actual bonuses now. it's so cool.

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Things I like:

Evolution and customization of religion
City state interaction*
Espionage*

* Insofar as I understand them, anyway. Espionage in particular is not the most transparent thing in the game and I guess I'll just have to play more to get a better feel for it. There are a lot times when I want to know why something is happening the way it is and the only response the game has is "well how does it feel to want."

Things I don't like:

Nonsensical bull****. I don't even know how to make heads or tails of the AI opinion of the player. Caesar has declared war on me no fewer than 5 times, but after every single war he goes right back to friendly with the only opinion modifier being "we were at war but they don't seem to hold a grudge." And then he goes straight from friendly to war and back again and we repeat the whole process again and again. Meanwhile, everyone else bounces around between friendly and guarded and denouncing me with little seeming to change in the process. Some of them I understand because I might have sort of taken their capital from them so it makes sense that they hate me forever, but most of them just happen out of the blue. I go to see why Siam suddenly wants to denounce me after we just exchanged BFF bracelets and the only opinion modifier is that he is currently denouncing me. What the hell.

It's also kind of dumb how you or the AI can just march a great prophet through someone's territory and completely flip the religion in every city. It's not permanent and it bounces back, but being to flip my holy city to 100% heresy with the push of a button is a tad silly. Got an achievement for, though!

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My takes on the game thus far:

Balance updates
- I am loving them.
- overall, game feels slower because they nerfed a lot of things that were completely imba early game
- stonehenge nerfed. It was basically an "I get whatever social policies I want, and all the early ones are borked now" button
- NC rush nerfed. Philo requires calendar as well, significantly slowing you down. You can still do the NC rush, you just can't also go for a bunch of infra techs while you build the great library to bulb philo.
- on a related note, the great Great Person nerf
-- GS no longer autobulbs. It's 6 turns off. Probably a bit extreme of a nerf. This makes academy much stronger early game, and the bulb is still somewhat strong late. Guess I can kiss goodbye to my sick gunpowder + metallurgy -> fertilizer bulb w/ the Ottomans, though.
-- only GAs can pop for golden ages. Notably, GGs can't pop for golden ages.
-- oddly enough, the GG can now culture bomb.
- liberty settler pushed back. Extremely necessary imo. Liberty was very, very powerful before. You could easily get up a super infrastructure and then just boom your way into the modern age.
- rationalism got rearranged, but it's kinda hard to gauge what the end result of that is. It's still a viable one-of (RA increase got swapped w/ happy science), but I'd have to play w/ it a lot ot understand the true rammifications.
- tradition got... nerfed? Buffed? Regardless, the finisher makes more sense now that it doesn't have an odd ICS use.
- RAs nerfed hard. Moving back to education eliminates all the super-efficient gold dumping you did early game into RAs. Requiring declaration of friendship means you have to get into the gongshow of entangling alliances (I love how people are always SO confused as to why they get into denounce spirals. It's because you've signed declarations of friendships. If you never sign a declaration of friendship, you will notice basically no one ever denounces you until you are very much in the lead. You the know the one country no one ever complains about? Switzerland.)
- SIEGE WEAPONS NO LONGER REQUIRE IRON HALLEUJAH. I mean, GOD. If you got no iron before it was basically "lol SOL, you aren't doing any aggression for 100 turns". Given how late a discovery iron was, this was easily devastating.

Religion
- overall, it's pretty cool
- the pantheon belief is CRITICAL. It can decide where your entire early game goes. The desert belief, for instance, can very quickly get out of control (floodplains and oasises? count as desert), but a lot of the other ones are very strong as well, like the healing one (makes you very hard to break on defence) or the growth one.
-- Boudica is VERY strong religiously because of this. She is assured the first pantheon pick, period. It's not even up for discussion. She is assured it.
- founder belief seems less critical. There are some decent ones, but none seem overly powerful given the rate of religion spread.
- follower belief can give some very nice, very unique perks
- enhancer beliefs can very rapidly increase the rate of spread of religion.
- Byzantium has interesting options with regards to its beliefs as well. I'd recommend a second follower belief or a pantheon belief.

City States
- made much more interesting
- new duration quests are pretty cool, and sort of help you gauge how well you are doing against your opponents outside from score
- I definitely like more than one quest at a time.
- all the quests can give you a bunch of little perks that add up
- haven't tried a lot of bullying yet

Espionage
- seems kind of half baked to me, but I haven't played with it a lot yet, mainly been trying different openings

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From: Phase | #048

-- Boudica is VERY strong religiously because of this. She is assured the first pantheon pick, period. It's not even up for discussion. She is assured it.
Unless you don't get a forest next to your starting city, like I did. :|

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From: baron von toast | #047

Nonsensical bull****. I don't even know how to make heads or tails of the AI opinion of the player. Caesar has declared war on me no fewer than 5 times, but after every single war he goes right back to friendly with the only opinion modifier being "we were at war but they don't seem to hold a grudge." And then he goes straight from friendly to war and back again and we repeat the whole process again and again. Meanwhile, everyone else bounces around between friendly and guarded and denouncing me with little seeming to change in the process. Some of them I understand because I might have sort of taken their capital from them so it makes sense that they hate me forever, but most of them just happen out of the blue. I go to see why Siam suddenly wants to denounce me after we just exchanged BFF bracelets and the only opinion modifier is that he is currently denouncing me. What the hell.

How are there people that still don't understand this

The AI is playing to win the game in this Civ. If they feel the only way they can do that is by declaring war on you, they'll do so. Your 'friends' aren't there to help you win, they're allied with you because they think they can use you and still stay ahead of you, or piggyback off you while they're weaker to eventually catapult them ahead somehow.

Being friendly while you're running away with the game doesn't help them win, so they'll backstab you. Forgiving them every time so they can do it again is just a bad decision on your part here.

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