Board 8 > Save My Rock Pokemon Final/Electric Pokemon Discussion Topic

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 3:19:00 PM
#1:


Kabutops had quite the lead for much of the final, and Aggron got lots of love during the last couple hours. Final was 28-24 in favor of Kabutops.

This final reminded me of the Ground final. Flygon was to Ground what Aggron was to Rock. They are consistently saved first and have the advantage of speed, but not the staying power to compete with Gen I.

Voter turnout was pretty low this time, the lowest we've seen besides the Normal final, I think. Even though Rock-types aren't very popular, things got interesting with miracle comebacks one after another.

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GenesisSaga
06/10/12 3:23:00 PM
#2:


Pretty cool contest overall.

Dunno what I'm supporting for Electric, but Raichu, Electivire, and Luxray are all fine candidates. Emolga too. Mm...

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StifledSilence
06/10/12 3:24:00 PM
#3:


Fun fact: my iPod wants to autocorrect Kabutops to Janitors.

Good winner, but Aerodactyl winning would have been great.

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starfox2245
06/10/12 3:25:00 PM
#4:


Raikou, Luxray, Jolteon, and Zapdos for me... with a few others as secondaries.

Well, it looks like I'll post the stats I haven't gotten to soon. Should I post them in this one, do you guys really want them in a separate topic?

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XIII_rocks
06/10/12 3:25:00 PM
#5:


Ampharos all the way.

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 3:26:00 PM
#6:


From: StifledSilence | #003
Fun fact: my iPod wants to autocorrect Kabutops to Janitors.

Good winner, but Aerodactyl winning would have been great.

That's hilarious.

And I think many people expected an Aerodactyl/Aggron final.

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speedpunk
06/10/12 3:27:00 PM
#7:


StifledSilence posted...
Fun fact: my iPod wants to autocorrect Kabutops to Janitors.

Good winner, but Aerodactyl winning would have been great.

Aerodactyl was a clear winner against Aggron if it made it to the finals.

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wowfanboy691337
06/10/12 3:28:00 PM
#8:


dunt u get tierd of doing pokemen only? try wow contest or somtin
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WaIker
06/10/12 3:29:00 PM
#9:


Gen

I would appreciate if you stopped liking Emolga.

I consider it equivalent to endorsing genocide.

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GenesisSaga
06/10/12 3:30:00 PM
#10:


But... it's so cute. And Iris's is hilarious.

Nope, can't do it. Sowwy.

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StifledSilence
06/10/12 3:33:00 PM
#11:


Aerodactyl vs Kabutops would have been even better!

As for Electric, Zapdos, Jolteon, and Electrode are my favorites but there are plenty of ones that I like.

Emolga is adorable, for the record.

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Dark Young Link
06/10/12 3:42:00 PM
#12:


Kabutops actually won? Didn't expecpt that.

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speedpunk
06/10/12 3:47:00 PM
#13:


Dark Young Link posted...
Kabutops actually won? Didn't expecpt that.

Well of Kabutops and Aerodactyl, Aggron actually stood a chance against Kabutops.

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SilentWanderer
06/10/12 3:53:00 PM
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Hurrah!

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Dragon66116
06/10/12 3:55:00 PM
#15:


I wish Aggron could've won, but Kabutops is cool too. I'll be supporting Manectric and Raikou in the Electric contest.

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mnkboy907
06/10/12 3:58:00 PM
#16:


Really meh winner.

Anyway, for Electric I'll be putting my weight behind...

Raichu
Zapdos
Lanturn
Raikou
Manectric
Shinx
Luxray
Magnezone
Electivire
Zebstrika
Galvantula
Eelektross
Zekrom

Pretty good type.

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ScepterOfLove
06/10/12 5:19:00 PM
#17:


Mareep Luxray and Galvantula families tbh

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TheCodeisBosco
06/10/12 7:02:00 PM
#18:


Woo, Kabutops! Pretty solid winner in my book. Here's my top ten Electric-type Pokemon:

1) Raichu
2) Pachirisu
3) Stunfisk
4) Electrode
5) Zapdos
6) Rotom
7) Jolteon
8) Luxray
9) Zekrom
10) Mareep

Should be a good contest! If Stunfisk gets eliminated in R1 though, so help me God...!

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mcflubbin
06/10/12 7:06:00 PM
#19:


Now that I think about it, none of my favorites are electric type. >_>'

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 7:57:00 PM
#20:


I'll be going on vacation at the end of this month, and since the Electric contest won't finish before then, I'll wait until I come back from vacation to start it rather than leave it on hiatus for a week. Next contest will probably start on the second week of July.

Anyone have a creative name for the redo series? I was thinking of calling it "Save My Electric Pokemon Redux". Someone might have a better name.

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SilentWanderer
06/10/12 8:01:00 PM
#21:


Save My Electric Pokemon: The Lights are Back On

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GenesisSaga
06/10/12 8:01:00 PM
#22:


Oh hells naw! Month long hiatus?

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:11:00 PM
#23:


Ah well, Kabutops isn't terrible.

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Pokewars
06/10/12 8:15:00 PM
#24:


Save My Electric Boogaloo

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starfox2245
06/10/12 8:19:00 PM
#25:


Yeah, I'd rather have a week-long hiatus in the middle of it than a month-long one hiatus between contests.

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WaIker
06/10/12 8:21:00 PM
#26:


From: starfox2245 | #025
Yeah, I'd rather have a week-long hiatus in the middle of it than a month-long one hiatus between contests.

this

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 8:30:00 PM
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From: starfox2245 | #025
Yeah, I'd rather have a week-long hiatus in the middle of it than a month-long one hiatus between contests.

Really? People didn't seem to enjoy the hiatus during the Rock contest very much. It kills the hype, no?

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 8:31:00 PM
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From: SilentWanderer | #021
Save My Electric Pokemon: The Lights are Back On

This is a good one, but we'd need something different for each of the remaining contests.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:34:00 PM
#29:


Rad Factoid: if it is a type-based contest with an Eeveelution, that will be my main!

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:34:00 PM
#30:


Rad Factoid... Rad Factoid...

This ought to have been a Mega Man X boss.

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GenesisSaga
06/10/12 8:35:00 PM
#31:


barreldragon88 posted...
From: starfox2245 | #025
Yeah, I'd rather have a week-long hiatus in the middle of it than a month-long one hiatus between contests.

Really? People didn't seem to enjoy the hiatus during the Rock contest very much. It kills the hype, no?


Yes it does, but nothing would kill my hype for a contest more than a month-long break before it even starts!

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GenesisSaga
06/10/12 8:40:00 PM
#32:


Oh, and before I forget here's a really cute pic of Kabutops I found while searching for reference pics to make my own drawing:

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And here are some cute fanart pics of Aggron who is way cuddlier than Kabutops ever will be!

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He's so kwoot... <3

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WaIker
06/10/12 8:41:00 PM
#33:


damn

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starfox2245
06/10/12 8:45:00 PM
#34:


Yeah, same thing with Gen. We'd rather be no hiatus at all, but if there has to be one, I'd take the shorter one while the contest has at least gotten underway. Waiting for a month for the thing to start kinda kills it.

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barreldragon88
06/10/12 8:53:00 PM
#35:


Well, if you all insist, the redux series will start on Tuesday.

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starfox2245
06/10/12 8:54:00 PM
#36:


We are glad for it! I'll put up Ground stats soon (and probably ghost) but I won't get to Rock until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest.

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SilentWanderer
06/10/12 8:58:00 PM
#37:


barreldragon88 posted...
This is a good one, but we'd need something different for each of the remaining contests.


Oh, I thought that's what you wanted.

Then, Save My X Pokemon: Max Revive Edition

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starfox2245
06/10/12 9:03:00 PM
#38:


Ground

Winner: Marowak (Generation I)

Key:
Generation | Pokemon in Top/Bottom Ten | Number Expected | Difference

Top Ten Breakdown
Gen I | 4 (Marowak, Sandslash, Cubone, Sanshrew) | 2 | +2
Gen II | 1 (Gligar) | 2 | -1
Gen III | 3 (Flygon, Camerupt, Swampert) | 2 | +1
Gen IV | 1 (Torterra) | 2 | -1
Gen V | 1 (Krookodile) | 2 | -1

Bottom Ten Breakdown
Gen I | 1 (Graveler) | 2 | -1
Gen II | 0 | 2 | -2
Gen III | 3 (Trapinch, Barboach, Baltoy) | 2 | +1
Gen IV | 2 (Hippopotas, Wormandam – Sandy Cloak)| 2 | 0
Gen V | 4 (Seismitoad, Stunfisk, Palpitoad, Landorus) | 2 | +2

Generation Breakdowns

Gen I
Top performer: Marowak (1st – 100th percentile)
Worst performer: Graveler (55th – 7th percentile)
Average placement: 23.28 (62nd percentile)

Gen II
Top performer: Gligar (6th – 91st percentile)
Worst performer: Piloswine (48th – 19th percentile)
Average placement: 27.3 (55th percentile)

Gen III
Top performer: Flygon (2nd – 98th percentile)
Worst performer: Baltoy (54th – 9th percentile)
Average placement: 29.08 (52nd percentile)

Gen IV
Top performer: Torterra (9th – 86th percentile)
Worst performer: Wormadam – Sandy Cloak (59th – 0th percentile)
Average placement: 33.55 (44th percentile)

Gen V
Top performer: Krookodile (3rd – 97th percentile)
Worst performer: Landorus (58th – 2nd percentile)
Average placement: 38.55 (35th percentile)

Alright, well first thing to note is that this is the first time each Gen had the exact same expected values in terms of performance, so numbers don’t really need to be adjusted to accommodate it this time. At least not nearly as heavily. So, the winner this time was once again Gen I. It had very evenly spaced eliminations throughout the field except at the extremes, an oversaturation and the top and somewhat avoiding the bottom allowed Gen I to claim both the contest winner and overall best performance among the Generations. Coming up in second is, you guessed it, Gen II. And what did it do? The same thing it does every time. Presence at the top isn’t particularly heavy, but it avoids the bottom almost entirely, which allows it to pull ahead of the Gens that were either evenly spaced or all over the place. Gen III comes in third (a welcome break from its many recent last place finishes) mainly due to its elimination spread. It had a somewhat heavy presence at the top (three in the top ten, all fairly evenly spaced), but had an equally heavy presence at the bottom (three, all packed towards the upper part of that group). Fairly even distribution throughout the rest of the competitors give it a percentile slightly above 50, which is a nice improvement over its typically lackluster finishes. Gen IV follows that, having a pretty light presence at the top with only two in the top twenty. It only landed three in the bottom twenty, but two of them finished pretty low, and all of its mid-carders all finished towards the lower part of the middle tier. And then there’s poor, poor Gen V… once again, the bottom Gen was saved from catastrophe due to one Pokemon (Krookodile this time). Its presence in the top was very light, matching Gen IV with two in the top twenty. However, its two did fare better (Krookodile in third compared to Torterra in ninth, and Excadrill in thirteenth compared to Gliscor in sixteenth). But it was hit really hard at the bottom, having four in the bottom ten (two of the bottom four). Six of its eleven contestants ended up in the bottom twenty, with an additional two grabbing the following two spots. This performance also ranks among the worst percentiles we’ve seen, and joins a few others as one of the worst performances a generation has made.

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starfox2245
06/10/12 9:04:00 PM
#39:


Seriously, you guys are on a streak of completely steamrolling one gen every contest.

And my vote goes to Max Revive edition!

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JoItik
06/10/12 9:31:00 PM
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barreldragon88
06/10/12 9:52:00 PM
#41:


From: starfox2245 | #039
Seriously, you guys are on a streak of completely steamrolling one gen every contest.

And my vote goes to Max Revive edition!

Me three. Silent is good with titles :)

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Wizardsfan1000
06/10/12 10:41:00 PM
#42:


TheCodeisBosco posted...
Woo, Kabutops! Pretty solid winner in my book. Here's my top ten Electric-type Pokemon:

1) Raichu
2) Pachirisu
3) Stunfisk
4) Electrode
5) Zapdos
6) Rotom
7) Jolteon
8) Luxray
9) Zekrom
10) Mareep

Should be a good contest! If Stunfisk gets eliminated in R1 though, so help me God...!


Then this would be the best Pokemon contest ever.

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MarvelousGerbil
06/10/12 10:48:00 PM
#43:


From: mnkboy907 | #016
Really meh winner.

Anyway, for Electric I'll be putting my weight behind...

Raichu
Zapdos
Lanturn
Raikou
Manectric
Shinx
Luxray
Magnezone
Electivire
Zebstrika
Galvantula
Eelektross
Zekrom

Pretty good type.

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SuorGenoveffa
06/11/12 1:39:00 AM
#44:


Wizardsfan1000 posted...
TheCodeisBosco posted...
Woo, Kabutops! Pretty solid winner in my book. Here's my top ten Electric-type Pokemon:

1) Raichu
2) Pachirisu
3) Stunfisk
4) Electrode
5) Zapdos
6) Rotom
7) Jolteon
8) Luxray
9) Zekrom
10) Mareep

Should be a good contest! If Stunfisk gets eliminated in R1 though, so help me God...!


Then this would be the best Pokemon contest ever.


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starfox2245
06/11/12 5:03:00 AM
#45:


For all zero people who happened to read the last one...

Ghost

Winner: Gengar (Generation I)

Key:
Generation | Pokemon in Top/Botom Ten | Expected | Difference

Top Ten Breakdown
Gen I | 2 (Gengar, Haunter) | 1 | +1
Gen II | 1 (Misdreavus) | 0 | +1
Gen III | 2 (Shedinja, Banette ) | 2 | 0
Gen IV | 1 (Froslass) | 3 | -2
Gen V | 3 (Chandelure, Golurk, Cofagrigus) | 3 | 0

Bottom Ten Breakdown
Gen I | 0 | 1 | -1
Gen II | 0 | 0 | 0
Gen III | 1 (Duskull) | 2 | -1
Gen IV | 5 (Giratina – Altered Forme, Drifblim, Drifloon, Rotom, Spiritomb) | 3 | +2
Gen V | 4 (Golett, Yamask, Jellicent, Frillish) | 3 | +1

Generation Breakdowns

Gen I
Top performer: Gengar (1st – 100th percentile)
Worst performer: Gastly (13th – 56th percentile)
Average placement: 6.67 (80th percentile)

Gen II
Top performer: Misdreavus (5th – 85th percentile)
Worst performer: Misdreavus (5th – 85th percentile)
Average placement: 5th (85th percentile)

Gen III
Top performer: Shedinja (3rd – 93rd percentile)
Worst performer: Duskull (19th – 33rd percentile)
Average placement: 12.83 (58th percentile)

Gen IV
Top performer: Froslass (7th – 78th percentile)
Worst performer: Spiritomb (28th – 0th percentile)
Average placement: 19.22 (35th percentile)

Gen V
Top performer: Chandelure (2nd – 96th percentile)
Worst performer: Frillish (24th – 15th percentile)
Average placement: 14.22 (53rd percentile)

The odd stats this time around stems entirely from the fact that the pool was so small this time around. With only 28 participants, only eight Pokemon didn’t make the top or bottom ten. Also, after Rock finished, I was going to do an overall thing including a few top fives, but I find it REALLY difficult to bring myself to include a performance from this contest simply due to the weirdness the small competitor amount caused. Anyway… on to the actual performances. I’m going to say Gen II is stuck in sort of a state of limbo, as Misdreavus is its only Ghost type. It did finish fifth, which is impressive for it being the only one from the gen, but I can’t honestly label it the best performance because of that. Gen I… I also have the same issue with. It’s somewhat better, having three participants, but still isn’t a ton. Due to it at least making up 10% of the field though, I’d be more willing to call it the most dominant performance. Gengar won, Haunter finished sixth, and Gastly still finished above the 50th percentile, so that’s pretty impressive. Now, on to the generations that actually had a sizeable pool of participants. Of those, Gen III is definitely the standout, managing to get two top ten spots, and only having one in the bottom ten (which was at the very top of that list, and wouldn’t be anywhere close to it given a larger participant pool). Given the circumstances, it actually performed pretty well here. The same can’t be said for Gen V, though. It DID get four Pokemon in the top ten, including two of the top four, but it also had five of the bottom ten. However, these performances cancelled out, and its middle tier performed as expected giving it a decent 50th percentile-range finish. Gen IV… well… yet another steamroll. Not only did it have five in the bottom ten, it had THE bottom four. Its highest finisher was Froslass in seventh, which would be great in any other contest, but that actually barely cracks the top quartile. It had the next two spots (Mismagius took 11th and Dusknoir took 12th), but that only puts them in above-average territory. After that, two who’d be considered below-average, then four in the bottom of the heap, and this all added up to a terrible performance from Gen IV. Still, just because of the weirdness of the contest pool, I wouldn’t put it as one of the worst performances seen, but it’s still undeniably bad.

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GenesisSaga
06/11/12 7:10:00 AM
#46:


Huh. Ghost went reasonably well without my participation.

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barreldragon88
06/11/12 9:12:00 AM
#47:


It took GF three generations to generate a sizable Ghost population... what's up with that? Those are some really weird stats.

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GTM
06/11/12 10:00:00 AM
#48:


as it should!

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06/11/12 10:01:00 AM
#49:


Let's go Raichu

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barreldragon88
06/11/12 10:42:00 AM
#50:


Pichu shall steal the competition with its cuteness!

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