Board 8 > Realistically, how much longer will the Vita last?

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Sales so far have been abysmal, especially in Japan, the handheld gaming capital of the world. And now that E3 has come and gone with almost no new Vita support, it really feels like Sony has given up on it.

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E3 in 2012 isn't going to do as much with the Vita, given Sony isn't Nintendo so it's going to do the modern E3 thing more and talk about services, show off Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty on Vita and call it a day. Most of Vita's big hitters to many of us are going to be Japanese, and a lot of those aren't going to wow whoever Sony and Microsoft think they're talking to at E3 these days.

TGS is going to determine the Vita's future, IMO.

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You are right about the Vita sales in Japan, although it's a commonly-held argument that Sony knows what they're doing because the PSP refuses to die over there and so they put out the hardware to level the playing field with Nintendo slightly (well, you know what I mean) and are intentionally largely ignoring it for another year or so.

Which is... kind of an awful idea, potentially, but it could work.

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I give it another 30 minutes, at least.

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From: Princess Anri | #004
I give it another 30 minutes, at least.
45, really. I prefer mine crispy.

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From: Princess Anri | #004
I give it another 30 minutes, at least.
You're one of those people that would bid a dollar on the Price is Right

It's gonna last 7 days

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KommunistKoala posted...

From: Princess Anri | #004
I give it another 30 minutes, at least.
You're one of those people that would bid a dollar on the Price is Right

It's gonna last 7 days

What is the highest bid, Bob?

799?

I bid 800.

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I don't know what Sony's deal was with their conference, but all of these games were at

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The Vita can last a good while if it really caters to the hardcore crowd and gets some games.

I think the worst thing they can do is price drop at this point. There's just no hope competing with the 3DS anymore for the big slice.

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It's biggest hurdle is going to be the PSP actually.

The Japanese market, consumer and developer, look unwilling to leave PSP behind.

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From: pjbasis | #010

It's biggest hurdle is going to be the PSP actually.

The Japanese market, consumer and developer, look unwilling to leave PSP behind.

Hasn't the PSP outsold the Vita every month since launch?

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From: GenesisTwilight | #011

Hasn't the PSP outsold the Vita every month since launch?

I believe the Vita actually had a respectable week one, showing signs of life among hobbyists and early adopters.
But yeah since then no one else really cares because of how huge PSP is among the layman over there.

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another 6 years.

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does the Vita have a Monster Hunter title yet?

if not, lets wait til they release one before jumping to conclusions

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From: Punnyz | #014
does the Vita have a Monster Hunter title yet?

if not, lets wait til they release one before jumping to conclusions
No, in fact Monster Hunter seems to be jumping ship to 3DS at this point.

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and people laughed at me when I said the vita was the next ngage.

The PSP isn't doing great in Japan. Just better. It certainly had a good life, but it's come to the end of its run. And as it turns out, its replacement is nothing.

Seriously, Sony are trying to pull away from the PSP to focus on the Vita but this just hurts both of them. The Vita was a mistake, they should have just kept the PSP running in Japan. Now Sony have pretty much lost the handheld market completely because nobody's buying either. And nobody will buy either since there aren't any games on the horizon for them. None of note, anyway.

Combine that with a failure to showcase, and yeah, this is why the Vita is already dead.

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I'm hoping by Holiday 2013 I can pick one up for like $50

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Just to ask, what is the #1 reason to own a Vita now? Which is preferable between Vita and 3DS?

Just felt like asking since I don't own either of the new handhelds, although I have very little interest in doing so, especially given how I might pick up a PS3 in under a week.

It amazes me the hysteria around newly released consoles time after time because they aren't shattering records while finding their feet. 3DS, PS3 and PS2 are just some that had really bad launches and a slow first 2 years, I wouldn't panic.

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I would say that if this wasn't a Sony handheld, but the precedent has been set in Japan. It can't even outsell the PSP on a week to week basis when even during the 3DS's worst weeks it was still far ahead the DS Lite and DSi.

Vita has literally fallen off the map. It's hard to remember at the times the thing even exists.

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Uh... The 3ds doesn't have a slow 2 years. It had a slow 5 months followed by a record breaking 7. Really, the vita is just going the psp way. It'll be fine eventually. A remodel, some changes to the bad parts of how they're managing, games, etc. The standard fixes.

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Vita is still chugging along. Gravity Rush is a quality title, plus Ragnarok Odyssey, Soul Sacrifice, and Warrior's Lair are on the way. It'll end up with about PSP level success. There might not be a third Sony handheld, but Vita will get its 5+ years.

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They had a ton of Vita games on the show floor, but they weren't attracting much attention that I could see

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Vita will never enjoy success in the West.

It will be at the top of the charts in Japan once Capcom shows off a better looking MH than the one the 3DS got.

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yeah i don't remember the psp being a huge hit when it came out

same with the ps3

From: LordEmbok | #026

yeah i don't remember the psp being a huge hit when it came out

same with the ps3

Problem is that the market is a lot more fast paced now than it was in 2005/2006. With Sony hemorrhaging money and the Vita not pulling strong numbers, it might not get as long to get in stride as the PSP and PS3 did.

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It's just going to have a strong late-game like the PSP and PS3. It's following the exact same pattern that they did, especially with the PSP sales eclipsing Vita, like PS2 eclipsed PS3.

Whether this is good or bad for Sony is arguable. Sony ended up making a good investment with the PSP and PS3, even though it took a long time to get the return on investment.

The point is that the Vita won't die, so the net result is that Sony just won't get AS rich as Nintendo, and the gamers will benefit from having competition in the handheld market.

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At least Sony had its main mascot ready at the Vita's launch, which is more than Nintendo or Microsoft are generally able to say nowadays.

who is sony's main mascot?

drake?

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gotspork posted...

who is sony's main mascot?

drake?

Pretty much.

I played with a Vita at Gamestop and wasn't impressed. It just wasn't a sleek piece of hardware at all, and had abysmal loading times for a handheld.


I really think the 3DS just killed them when it came to being the hip handheld because of its 3D and lower price.

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From: LinkMarioSamus | Posted: 6/7/2012 1:14:35 PM | #033

gotspork posted...

who is sony's main mascot?

drake?

Pretty much.

no

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It'll last until Sony tries again with another new handheld.

Sales haven't been very good, but not abysmal enough to kill it or anything.

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Vita will be fine eventually I think, its just that the PSP is in a weird situation right now. Its dead everywhere outside of Japan, yet still very strong in Japan... so its kinda tough for Vita since it won't get the Japanese support it needs both gamewise and sales wise, and the lack of games for it hurts the Vita in other countries.

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Metaphysically, how much longer will the Vita last?

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I think the Vita will last 3-4 years at least, but do worse than the PSP overall.

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From: Jeff Zero | #038

Metaphysically, how much longer will the Vita last?

For as long as we hold its memory close to our hearts.

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3 weeks.

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