Board 8 > WiiU screen single touch, no friend codes, Nintendo Land pack-in undecided.

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Good interview from GameTrailers--http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-nintendo/731555

* WiiU screen is single-touch due to costs of multitouch, and popularity of the DS.
* Nintendo is done with friend codes in favor of an account system.
* Undecided on whether to include Nintendo Land with the WiiU, very popular at the show.

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From: ZFS | Posted: 6/6/2012 1:18:40 PM | #001

Nintendo is done with friend codes in favor of an account system.

Good move.

Still not interested in buying one

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* WiiU screen is single-touch due to costs of multitouch, and popularity of the DS.
disappointing

* Nintendo is done with friend codes in favor of an account system.
good! great, even! I hope our vc is tied to an account now! that way if my wiiu breaks I don't lose games, too.

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* Nintendo is done with friend codes in favor of an account system.

I wonder if this will affect the 3DS. They did say it would eventually incorporate the Nintendo Network and Miiverse stuff.

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Nice to hear they're getting rid of friend codes. Now they just need to announce the WiiU Pro Controller planned to be compatible with almost every game and I'll be more interested.

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Second is old news.

And damnit Nintendo. You can sacrifice some processing power for multitouch.

...Can they?

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From: ZFS | #001
* Undecided on whether to include Nintendo Land with the WiiU, very popular at the show.
lol

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ZFS posted...

* Undecided on whether to include Nintendo Land with the WiiU, very popular at the show.

wut

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VincentLauw posted...

From: ZFS | #001
* Undecided on whether to include Nintendo Land with the WiiU, very popular at the show.
lol

really

the ****?

no friend codes is good though

Nintendo Land may not be very exciting, but I don't really doubt that it's fun to play. I bet the people who tried the demo left with good impressions.

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maybe they meant that having it as a pack-in was a very popular idea at the show

is there a problem with Nintendo Land being popular?

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the donkey kong game seemed pretty fun to me actually. luigi's mansion minigame seemed boring, but maybe it was just that rambling presenter

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What is this Nintendo Land?

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From: WazzupGenius00 | #011
maybe they meant that having it as a pack-in was a very popular idea at the show
Let's not kid ourselves now.

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From: LeonhartFour | #014
What is this Nintendo Land?

Minigame collection for Wii U as a demonstration of the console, a la Wii Sports for the Wii

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Ah, so it's a tech demo, basically.

Sounds like a good idea for a bundle to me then.

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From: ZFS | #001

* WiiU screen is single-touch due to costs of multitouch, and popularity of the DS.

Welp

So it's gonna be a giant DS screen at best

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LeonhartFour posted...

What is this Nintendo Land?

Yeah, it's basically a Nintendo-themed minigame collection.




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as someone who is actually at the show now, i can confirm that nintendoland is easily the most crowded game at their exhibit. unless this is artificial...

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LordGaluf posted...

as someone who is actually at the show now, i can confirm that nintendoland is easily the most crowded game at their exhibit. unless this is artificial...

Damn, I'm shocked. That's a cool piece of info though. What other games seem popular?

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swordz9 posted...

Nice to hear they're getting rid of friend codes. Now they just need to announce the WiiU Pro Controller planned to be compatible with almost every game and I'll be more interested.

I agree with you. I already said this in another topic, but I'll post it here as well:

It remains to be seen how many games will actually be able to use the Wii U Pro Controller (a classic video game controller design). Although the Wii had a classic controller of its own, not many Wii games were able to use it.

I think when a gimmick is forced upon you, like with the Wii's motion controls, that's the kind of gimmick that will have people hating on it. At least the 3DS's gimmick could be turned off and you don't miss out on anything by not choosing to play with the 3D effect turned on.

Going back on the Wii U Pro Controller, if almost every game will be able to use that controller in place of the tablet controller, then the Wii U has a chance at not being a failure.

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but motion controls being forced on you didn't make the wii a failure.

not making a value judgement here, just an observational counterpoint.

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As I think about it, wouldn't it be better if Nintendo Land wasn't a bundle game?

The comments I've been seeing from hardcore gamers online mostly agree they wouldn't pay for it, and would only be interested in it if it was a pack-in. But by including it with the Wii U, it would likely increase the price, so they'd still be paying for it.

Wii Sports and Wii Play have already proved that simple games like these can be million sellers. Most ordinary customers would have no problem buying the game separately. So logically wouldn't it be better for everyone if it wasn't bundled? Casual gamers won't care, hardcore gamers won't miss it and will have a slightly cheaper console, and Nintendo makes oodles of money.

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Here's an IGN interview with Reggie--http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/06/e3-2012-reggie-discusses-launching-wii-u-retro

* Nintendo Land is the best game they have to sell the idea of the WiiU.
* They want the game to have a very high attach rate with the system, still deciding launch details.
* "Launch window" is the first three to four months--Pikmin 3 is a launch window game.
* Retro's game unlikely to be shown for a while.
* They want to launch at a price that's considered a great value, mass market product.

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Grand Kirby posted...

As I think about it, wouldn't it be better if Nintendo Land wasn't a bundle game?

The comments I've been seeing from hardcore gamers online mostly agree they wouldn't pay for it, and would only be interested in it if it was a pack-in. But by including it with the Wii U, it would likely increase the price, so they'd still be paying for it.

Wii Sports and Wii Play have already proved that simple games like these can be million sellers. Most ordinary customers would have no problem buying the game separately. So logically wouldn't it be better for everyone if it wasn't bundled? Casual gamers won't care, hardcore gamers won't miss it and will have a slightly cheaper console, and Nintendo makes oodles of money.

Wii Sports Resort and Wii Play both came with bonus hardware pack-ins.

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LordGaluf posted...

as someone who is actually at the show now, i can confirm that nintendoland is easily the most crowded game at their exhibit. unless this is artificial...

I would be surprised if that wasn't the case tbh. You could out of E3 knowing that Nintendo is staking their 2012 console fortunes on NintendoLand. That's a big deal. The other options are "yet another floaty 2D Mario" and Pikmin. Mario will sell millions and Pikmin might sell 1 million, so not small potatoes, but it's stuff we've played before.

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gotspork posted...

but motion controls being forced on you didn't make the wii a failure.

not making a value judgement here, just an observational counterpoint.

Only a failure among the hardcore gamers. Casuals went crazy over the Wii, because they didn't really care about the motion controls at all.

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Grand Kirby posted...

As I think about it, wouldn't it be better if Nintendo Land wasn't a bundle game?

The comments I've been seeing from hardcore gamers online mostly agree they wouldn't pay for it, and would only be interested in it if it was a pack-in. But by including it with the Wii U, it would likely increase the price, so they'd still be paying for it.

Wii Sports and Wii Play have already proved that simple games like these can be million sellers. Most ordinary customers would have no problem buying the game separately. So logically wouldn't it be better for everyone if it wasn't bundled? Casual gamers won't care, hardcore gamers won't miss it and will have a slightly cheaper console, and Nintendo makes oodles of money.

nobody is going to not buy the wiiu just because it has a pack in game. therefore, more money for nintendo if they pack it in and charge for it. later, they can drop the pack in and the price and make news with a price drop to drive further sales.

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I've never really understood the need for multitouch on this - I mean I know I've heard tons of people clamouring for it here... but why?

I don't mean to sound like I'm defending anything here, it's just I literally don't know what the big deal is about multitouch so I'm asking

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-LusterSoldier- posted...

gotspork posted...

but motion controls being forced on you didn't make the wii a failure.

not making a value judgement here, just an observational counterpoint.

Only a failure among the hardcore gamers. Casuals went crazy over the Wii, because they didn't really care about the motion controls at all.

true, though lots of the casuals were drawn to the motion controls, especially old people and children, so I wouldn't say that overall they didn't care about motion controls.

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One of the reasons is that it allows for more functionality. You can zoom into pages, swipe to a new page, capacitive works much better with fingers. There are a lot of bonuses, especially on a screen the size of the WiiU's.

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Nintendo Land sounds fun, but I doubt it's something I'd be willing to spend a ton of money on unless it's packaged with the system (a la Wii Sports) or an extra controller (a la Wii Play).

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i'd assume something like nintendo land would be popular at e3 since anyone can pick up and play for a quick moment without needing to be invested long term or anything

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as someone who regularly uses a multitouch tablet: it is so much better to have mutlitouch.

at least have duo-touch or whatever.

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If it isn't a pack-in, and I have to think Nintendo is leaning that way, it doesn't have to be a full price game. It's the kind of thing they could sell for $40 instead of $60, though if they'd be willing to do that I don't know.

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All their games NOW are $50, right? They haven't sold any first-party Wii games for $60 I don't believe.

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yeah zoom swipe stuff has its purposes... I mean Im on my droid right now so I know about that. but I dont see it being a big deal for a console controller. UPad isnt a tablet

GuessMyUserName posted...

I've never really understood the need for multitouch on this - I mean I know I've heard tons of people clamouring for it here... but why?

I don't mean to sound like I'm defending anything here, it's just I literally don't know what the big deal is about multitouch so I'm asking

Single-touch on a controller like this means it's just a glorified start button.

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Yep. It's just an assumption that there would be a price increase to offset higher development costs. If Nintendo stays at $50, what do third-parties do?

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The controller features that interest me the most aren't touch screen related so I couldn't care less.

Stuff like using the screen as a visor with cross-hair or that batarang control thing they've shown with Batman.

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ZFS posted...

Yep. It's just an assumption that there would be a price increase to offset higher development costs. If Nintendo stays at $50, what do third-parties do?

I dunno I'm sure there are games from 2009 that could use the touch *battery dies*

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neonreaper posted...

GuessMyUserName posted...

I've never really understood the need for multitouch on this - I mean I know I've heard tons of people clamouring for it here... but why?

I don't mean to sound like I'm defending anything here, it's just I literally don't know what the big deal is about multitouch so I'm asking

Single-touch on a controller like this means it's just a glorified start button.

ITT: The DS touch functions are a glorified start button


there's much to be criticized, but this is just nonsense

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VincentLauw posted...

neonreaper posted...

GuessMyUserName posted...

I've never really understood the need for multitouch on this - I mean I know I've heard tons of people clamouring for it here... but why?

I don't mean to sound like I'm defending anything here, it's just I literally don't know what the big deal is about multitouch so I'm asking

Single-touch on a controller like this means it's just a glorified start button.

ITT: The DS touch functions are a glorified start button


there's much to be criticized, but this is just nonsense

"controller like this"

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No friends codes

now we have buddy codes for you.

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popularity amongst press doesn't strike me as a very good metric.

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People complain that the WiiU controller is a tablet that they don't want and it costs too much

So they do something to save some money

And people complain that it's not enough like a tablet

Make up your minds

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The WiiU pad looks pretty cool, it would just be disappointing if the screen is lacking for some minor savings.

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I never had a problem with the DS being single-touch, so I doubt I would have a problem with the WiiU controller being the same.

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