Board 8 > Rolling Stone has updated its 500 Greatest Albums of All Time list.

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:31:00 AM
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531

Comment along as I go through and make snarky remarks and feign indignity about what is sure to be another hilariously inept RS list

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 11:32:00 AM
#2:


done

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 11:36:00 AM
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hey, hip-hop. one of your brightest moments doesn't live up to the brilliance that is the album with "Kids." "Rosa Parks?" please. MGMT have Joanna Newsom in their video.

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:38:00 AM
#4:


500. Outkast - Aquemini
499. B.B. King - Live in Cook County Jail
498. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
497. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
496. Boz Scaggs - Boz Scaggs
495. Bonnie Raitt - Give It Up
494. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
493. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
492. Eurythmics - Touch
491. Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign

This being the first 10, I'm not going to be too critical (also, I've never heard the Boz Scaggs or Albert King albums), but I'm pretty sure White Blood Cells and Aquemeni are both going to be better than most of the albums over the next 100 or so, with the exception of the ones that are even more poorly placed than they are. Oracular Spectacular has one great song, which is apparently enough to get you on a RS list these days. I will say this they did get The Stone Roses right. They deserve to be on the list, but not all that high up.

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TheOceIot
05/31/12 11:41:00 AM
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Aquemini is way too low. Should probably be top 100. How the heck is that MGMT album ahead of it?

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:44:00 AM
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490. ZZ Top - Tres Hombres
489. KISS - Destroyer
488. Husker Du - New Day Rising
487. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual
486. Earth, Wind and Fire - That's The Way of the World
485. Pearl Jam - Vitalogy
484. Mott the Hoople - All the Young Dudes
483. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
482. Steve Earle - Guitar Town
481. D'Angelo - Voodoo

ZZ Top and KISS seem more like artifacts of the late 70s and early-mid 80s than they do actual bands, but I guess if you're making this as a sort of time capsule then you would feel obligated to include them?

Deathly afraid that the presence of the not-really-that-good Vitalogy means that this list is going to be inundated with Pearl Jam, who for my money are the most overrated band going. The fact that That's The Way of the World is behind Vitalogy and adjacent to Cyndi Lauper is kinda crazy.

Kudos due for Voodoo, though.

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 11:47:00 AM
#7:


oh hey look another RS damage control article because their editors are completely myopic and then pretend like they are relevant after people b**** at them for years! (Kid A getting a 3/5 and then becoming Album of the Decade, anyone?)

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Kyubit
05/31/12 11:48:00 AM
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I know a lot of these bands

-1000 cred

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 11:48:00 AM
#9:


CherryCokes posted...
White Blood Cells and Aquemeni are both going to be better than most of the albums over the next 100 or so, with the exception of the ones that are even more poorly placed than they are.


Those 2 and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot are 3 of the top 50 or so albums ever.

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 11:52:00 AM
#10:


oh my god

wait for the top 20





I cant even process this right now

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:52:00 AM
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480. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
479. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
478. Loretta Lynn - All Time Greatest Hits
477. Merle Haggard - Down Every Road
476. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
475. Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Armed Forces
474. Manu Chao - Próxima Estación: Esperanza
473. The Smiths - The Smiths
472. George Michael - Faith
471. Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight

Okay.

What the f*** is this.

478. Loretta Lynn - All Time Greatest Hits

Seriously. Next they're gonna tell me that that Eagles greatest hits album is in the top 100 or something, right? A compilation of Loretta Lynn songs is ahead of Cuban Linx and Maggot Brain.

But wait! It gets better! The worst of B.I.G.'s albums, the bloated and mostly skippable Life After Death is ahead of Cuban Linx! And inexplicably, it moved up from 483 on the last version!

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:53:00 AM
#12:


Also, Rolling Stone, you incompetent fools, that's not even the album art for Armed Forces

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Theon_Greyjoy
05/31/12 11:55:00 AM
#13:


Seriously RS has always been about damage control. Not sure how an album will be received? Give it 3 stars just to be safe.

And MGMT come on. I like that album but half of it is filler.

Edit: just looked at the top 10. There's nothing safer than a top 10 full of long established classics.

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 11:56:00 AM
#14:


excerpt from the OBCL write-up

"The best Wu-Tang solo joint"

1. it's weird to call album that so heavily features Ghostface a "solo" album
2. this may be true, but that implies that there are 479 albums better than OBCL, and only one of them is from the Wu

the site isn't very mobile friendly


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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:57:00 AM
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470. LL Cool J - Radio
469. The Fugees - The Score
468. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band - The Paul Butterfield Blues Band
467. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love
466. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head
465. The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
464. Def Leppard - Hysteria
463. Echo and the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here
462. R.E.M. - Document
461. Public Image Ltd. - Metal Box

Really? Tunnel of Love and Document ahead of The Score? This is a list we're talking about in 2012, and we're talking about Tunnel of Love and Document being ranked higher than The Score.

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 11:57:00 AM
#16:


Tom Waits posted...
excerpt from the OBCL write-up

"The best Wu-Tang solo joint"

1. it's weird to call album that so heavily features Ghostface a "solo" album
2. this may be true, but that implies that there are 479 albums better than OBCL, and only one of them is from the Wu

the site isn't very mobile friendly


Also no Liquid Swords

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 11:58:00 AM
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From: Tom Waits | #014
the site isn't very mobile friendly


it's not very computer friendly either.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/31/12 11:59:00 AM
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469. The Fugees - The Score

First entry that really upsets me. This album should be in the top 10.
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OliviaTremor
05/31/12 12:00:00 PM
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Only 2 albums from the 90s or later in the top 100! Can you guess which they are? Here's a hint-- RS gave them both a 3 on initial release!

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 12:00:00 PM
#20:


A few more things:

-I love how ~80% of the hip-hop albums on this list came out 20+ years ago
-LMFAO at their Radiohead album ranking
-Jesus Christ is it really necessary to include 10+ Beatles albums, 8 or so Rolling Stones and Dylan albums??

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 12:01:00 PM
#21:


OliviaTremor posted...
Only 2 albums from the 90s or later in the top 100! Can you guess which they are? Here's a hint-- RS gave them both a 3 on initial release!


XFD are they really that stupid?

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Theon_Greyjoy
05/31/12 12:01:00 PM
#22:


Unless I missed OKC, they have Kid A and The Bends as the top 2 Radiohead albums. I can get behind that!

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Mr Lasastryke
05/31/12 12:02:00 PM
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Kid A is definitely a top 2 Radiohead album. The Bends definitely isn't.
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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:04:00 PM
#24:


460. Hole - Live Through This
459. The Drifters - Golden Hits
458. Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection
457. My Morning Jacket - Z
456. Marvin Gaye - Here, My Dear
455. Los Lobos - How Will the Wolf Survive?
454. Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
453. EPMD - Strictly Business
452. Jon Prine - John Prine
451. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black

Greatest hits albums have no place on a list of greatest albums. Get that through your skull, RS.

Also, I love me some Elton John, but Tumbleweed Connection? No one cares about anything on that except "Burn Down the Mission"

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 12:05:00 PM
#25:


Mershaaay posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Only 2 albums from the 90s or later in the top 100! Can you guess which they are? Here's a hint-- RS gave them both a 3 on initial release!


XFD are they really that stupid?


Literally trying to say that there have been two top 100 albums released in my lifetime

Literally saying that there are ~15 albums from the 1960s ALONE that are better than the best album of the 1990s and ~50 albums from the 1960s ALONE that are better than the best album of the 2000s

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:06:00 PM
#26:


HEY

Use the spoiler tags if your'e gonna post things from ahead of where I'm at, or stay with me.

Jeez.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/31/12 12:06:00 PM
#27:


453. EPMD - Strictly Business

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Lucid Faia
05/31/12 12:07:00 PM
#28:


Stop giving Rolling Stone the time of day and maybe they'll stop making bad lists.

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TheConductorSix
05/31/12 12:09:00 PM
#29:


Voodoo is one of the greatest r&b albums of all time.
Cuban Linx this low so bad.
The Score not in the top 100

Oh rolling stones you old yuppies you; you know less about rap than Pitchfork.

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Mershaaay
05/31/12 12:11:00 PM
#30:


Topics like this make me wish ICON FINISHED THE TOP 500 ALBUMS OF BOARD 8

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:12:00 PM
#31:


450. Jackson Browne - For Everything
449. Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
448. The Police - Synchronicity
447. Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto - Getz/Gilberto
446. MC5 - Back in the USA
445. Steve Miller Band - Fly Like an Eagle
444. War - The World is a Ghetto
443. Cheap Trick - In Color
442. Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
441. Suicide - Suicide

Synchronicity is a bit too low, but is also the second best Police album. Does that mean Outlandos D'Amour is going to be in like, the 300s? It better not be.

I'm not sure Cheap Trick's In Color would have made my top 500 albums, despite the fact that I only have about 1200, and really like Cheap Trick.

I hope you all like Devo, because this is presumably the last time we'll see them on this list. Maybe in another 10 years, RS will have caught up to how good Devo is.

Wonder if any of the other Big Star albums will show up? Radio City should, but this is Rolling Stone...

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TheConductorSix
05/31/12 12:12:00 PM
#32:


Astral Weeks for top 5 or we riot
Ziggy Stardust top 5 or we riot

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Mik_Pick
05/31/12 12:13:00 PM
#33:


Didn't see any Porcupine Tree from skimming through. (Shame)
Saw Nine Inch Nails, but it was The Downward Spiral. (Wrong choice in my opinion)
Saw lots of Radiohead, in a generally good order. (Amnesiac is over rated though I think).

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 12:14:00 PM
#34:


I finished it. I just never shared it. There's a difference.

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 12:16:00 PM
#35:


Board 8's top 10

OK Computer
Kid A
Funeral
In Rainbows
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Discovery
Abbey Road
Agaetis Bythatsigurrosalbum
In The Aeroplane, Over the Sea
The Velvet Underground and Nico

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Lucid Faia
05/31/12 12:16:00 PM
#36:


Good grief. So it's basically one big Classic Rock circlejerk over at Rolling Stone, with other genres given cursory treatment?

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VincentLauw
05/31/12 12:18:00 PM
#37:


Also I never understood the mindset of 'LOL NOT MUCH RECENT ALBUMS ON HERE LMAO'

of course a great album released a few years back won't feature high up on this, it still has to stand the test of time

I understand if you don't agree with that choice, but I don't see why you wouldn't expect a mag like Rolling Stone to use that standard. If there's one music magazine that's incredibly old school it's that one

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OliviaTremor
05/31/12 12:18:00 PM
#38:


CherryCokes posted...
HEY

Use the spoiler tags if your'e gonna post things from ahead of where I'm at, or stay with me.

Jeez.


Sorry Cokes, didn't post what the albums were but I guess just mentioning them was a spoiler. My bad.

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neonreaper
05/31/12 12:19:00 PM
#39:


ZZ Top, LL Cool J, Def Leppard the only good things listed so far.

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:19:00 PM
#40:


440. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy and the Lash
439. Sam Cooke - Live At The Harlem Square Club, 1963
438. The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
437. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
436. Beck - Sea Change
435. Nirvana - In Utero
434. Big Star - #1 Record
433. George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
432. Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
431. PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea

I feel like I should just let Icon take this one, given the Sam Cooke, Big Star, George Harrison, and PJ Harvey slights.

(Boys Don't Cry means that have seven albums on the list right? By my count, Three Imaginary Boys, Pornography, Kiss Me, The Head on the Door, Faith, and Disintegration are all leagues better than Boys Don't Cry, which, by the way, is a compilation that came out after Three Imaginary Boys and Faith)

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VincentLauw
05/31/12 12:20:00 PM
#41:


Tom Waits posted...
Board 8's top 10

OK Computer
Kid A
Funeral
In Rainbows
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Discovery
Abbey Road
Agaetis Bythatsigurrosalbum
In The Aeroplane, Over the Sea
The Velvet Underground and Nico


No Skinny Fists? Damnit!


That top 10 is basically music fan 101

Good nonetheless!

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:20:00 PM
#42:


GodDAMN it Vincent. Read the topic.

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VincentLauw
05/31/12 12:21:00 PM
#43:


I'm only going to comment on the top 20


edit woops sorry cokes here's spoilers
#20 Thriller: I guess it's deserving but I've never really loved MJ that much
#19 Astral Weeks: I did not expect this to be this high, so congrats RS on making a good decision. One of my favorite records, top 5 stuff
#18 Born To Run: Good album, great even, wouldn't really be in my top 20
#17 Nevermind: Of course a bit cliché, I didn't expect anything else, but a great choice nonetheless
#16 Blood On The Tracks: Not my favorite Dylan record, but it's up there
#15 Are You Experienced?: Might be my least favorite Experience record, but that doesn't mean much when all three of them are superb
#14 Abbey Road: My third favorite Beatles record, top 50 for sure
#13 VU & Nico: My favorite record by them, classic, good choice, etc
#12 Kind of Blue: After delving a bit deeper in jazz, I'm a novice still mind you, this still remains my favorite record in the whole genre. Deserving of all its praise
#11 The Sun Sessions: Never been an Elvis fan so I can't comment on this
#10 The White Album: Great record, lots of superb songs, wouldn't make my top 20 but probably top 100
#9 Blonde on Blonde: Again not my favorite Dylan record, but it's good
#8 London Calling: Not a huge Clash fan but this is a great record
#7 Exile on Main Street: Haven't listened to it in full so I can't comment. I haven't really looked into the Stones much yet
#6 What's Going On: Haven't listened to it in full
#5 Rubber Soul: My second favorite Beatles record so top 20 for sure
#4 Highway 61 Revisited: Second favorite Dylan record, top 50 for sure
#3 Revolver: The exact placement I would give this record so good going RS
#2 Pet Sounds: Good record, haven't really listened to it much so I can't comment too much
#1 Sgt. Pepper's: I know every music mag has a boner for the Beatles and I do too, but I've never been TOO big on Sgt. Pepper's. It's a good record, great even, it has some of their best songs, but ultimately there's 5 records by them or so that I think are better. To each their own




So overall, very much expected the top 20 to be like this, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see Astral Weeks so high up on it

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SubDeity
05/31/12 12:22:00 PM
#44:


Is there any way to see this list in a not terrible way?

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 12:23:00 PM
#45:


live at the harlem square club is not just the greatest live album ever, it's on a very short list of greatest albums ever. every song is a definitive performance, and many of them are on par with "A Change is Gonna Come." perfect record.

#1 Record is Big Star's best. but this is coming from someone who has The Velvet Underground as VU's best, so. (they're pretty much the same record, at least in tone)

All Things Must Pass is better than most Beatles record, and every Beatles solo record. Paul has some good ones, though.

Stories is probably the third or fourth best PJ Harvey album, but it's likely the highest on the list. oh well.

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Tom Waits
05/31/12 12:24:00 PM
#46:


skinny fists is at 20 in the b8 hot 500

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:29:00 PM
#47:


From: SubDeity | #044
Is there any way to see this list in a not terrible way?


as far as I'm aware, this topic is the least terrible way to experience this list

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Mr Lasastryke
05/31/12 12:30:00 PM
#48:


428. The Police - Outlandos D'Amour

yeah, wtf
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Tom Waits
05/31/12 12:32:00 PM
#49:


it's not even the best girl groups comp!

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CherryCokes
05/31/12 12:32:00 PM
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430. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
429. Brian Eno - Another Green World
428. The Police - Outlandos D'Amour
427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless
426. Cheap Trick - Budokan
425. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
424. Bruce Springsteen - The Rising
423. Diana Ross and the Supremes - Anthology
422. The Ronettes - Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes
421. Various Artists - The Best of Girl Groups Volumes 1 and 2

First of all, really? A VA compilation, and another greatest hits? The Supremes didn't have one album you could put there instead?

New leader for the "What the F***" Album Award - Peter Wolf's Sleepless. Peter Wolf, for those of you who aren't from Boston, was the lead singer for the J. Geils Band (whose great blues rock work from the 70s is almost surely not represented on this list). I did not even know he had a solo career, much less one worth writing about.

Lastly, let's all have a good laugh

From: CherryCokes | #031
Synchronicity is a bit too low, but is also the second best Police album. Does that mean Outlandos D'Amour is going to be in like, the 300s? It better not be.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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