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Dantezoid
05/27/12 8:45:00 AM
#201:


koala pick up DDT

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GuessMyUserName
05/27/12 9:19:00 AM
#202:


the only recommendation I can think of:

2 hosts to put up rounds. need 2 rounds per day, and only getting rounds around FFD's schedule is pretty lame.

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-FFDragon-
05/27/12 9:52:00 AM
#203:


I like the concept of 10ish rounds per week and the idea of a backup host. Now that I've run a full contest under raytan's wishes I feel more comfortable fully making the contest my own.

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StifledSilence
05/27/12 9:56:00 AM
#204:


Zack
Zidane
Cecil
Yuna
Tidus
Cloud
Terra
Bartz
Lightning
Vaan
Squall

Depending on my mood, Zidane is also #1 as far as mains go but right now I'm leaning towards Zack.

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pjbasis
05/27/12 10:12:00 AM
#205:


I accept any result because I gave it my all.
No compromises, no regret.
Even with this loss, I can stand tall and face the rising sun, ever looking forward to the next battle.
The next victory.
And like Squall learned so many years ago, I am not alone!

I raise my glass to the KUJA FANS.
It's been a few weeks and I don't remember all your names, but Inviso and vcharon stand out in recognition.

I raise my glass to the SEPHIROTH FANS.
Of which barrel, Swarles, and Xuxon accepted me after the loss of my favorite villain.

And of course, I raise my glass to the SQUALL FANS.
I would not be here without you. We fought hard and we fought well. History will remember the Wagon that raced against a Ferry, and almost won. From those who saved every round to just the final round.
Jeff Zero, Socko, Chris, Liberal, swordz, Commodore, Kotetsu, and probably someone else.

Also a shout-out to GenesisSaga for making me laugh (at her).

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swordz9
05/27/12 10:17:00 AM
#206:


I could help with backup host assuming I'm not busy next year. I could've done it this year too if asked since I could put up a round anywhere in the 15-17 hours a day I'm awake.

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GenesisSaga
05/27/12 10:18:00 AM
#207:


I know had fun laughing at that one loser who was desperate enough to do next contest trades for votes once he realized he was losing. Who was that guy again? Ah well, he's not important.

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Dantezoid
05/27/12 10:21:00 AM
#208:


I nominate Drak for backup host

you also know I'm willing to drop my posting style and help in a heartbeat, but many would reject me so whatever

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th3l3fty
05/27/12 10:23:00 AM
#209:


Dante for backup host

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GuessMyUserName
05/27/12 10:26:00 AM
#210:


yeah I was gonna mention in my previous post that I'd nom drak

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GenesisSaga
05/27/12 10:34:00 AM
#211:


##nominateDrakforbackuphost

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-FFDragon-
05/27/12 10:41:00 AM
#212:


This is convenient, Drak is one of the people I'd trust to cohost.

Don't know if he has any desire to do so however.

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GenesisSaga
05/27/12 10:42:00 AM
#213:


He was willing to take over for you after you took off for two weeks. I think he's okay.

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Dantezoid
05/27/12 10:44:00 AM
#214:


well Drak didn't actually seem terribly thrilled to take over, so I'm not sure he'd want to commit

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-FFDragon-
05/27/12 10:48:00 AM
#215:


Yeah I was under the impression it was more of a masterful Mercs-esque stall.

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Dantezoid
05/27/12 10:50:00 AM
#216:


well now you've spoiled it so the people won't fall for it again

but yeah, that's what it was

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-FFDragon-
05/27/12 10:52:00 AM
#217:


It was perfectly timed so there wasn't anything to fall for!

I got back right before zero hour!

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Dantezoid
05/27/12 10:54:00 AM
#218:


you seem to do that a lot, actually

do you have an informant

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-FFDragon-
05/27/12 10:58:00 AM
#219:


I have an advanced spy network, yes.

I'm sure Drak would have begrudgingly kept things going until I got back had it come to it though.

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LeonhartFour
05/27/12 11:21:00 AM
#220:


From: Drakeryn | #188
Then he drops off the map into nothingness (i.e., 5/10)

The only problem is that this is inexcusable for someone who is supposed to be the "lead" character.

So I don't know how you can say 'well that only averages out to 5/10 when the main character ceases to be remotely relevant to the story'

And I don't want to hear 'well if he's doing nothing then he's not being actively annoying.' It's not the same as Penelo being useless all game because she's not supposed to be the main character. There are certain "expectations" when a character is thrust into a certain role.

Also, Squall isn't really thrust into any sort of leadership role until later in the game anyway, so I don't know if he necessarily "needs" reasons to fight beyond "I'm a SeeD and this is what I do because I'm good at it" in the early part of the game. You may not like that, but it doesn't really bother me that he has no real reason for fighting to start with beyond "I'm a SeeD." And people admire him because of his talent. Not sure what's wrong with that. You put him in charge, he gets things done.

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FFDragon
05/27/12 2:42:00 PM
#221:


1. What did you think about CXIV and the new regime? (#banffd and #longliveffd are both acceptable answers)
--The hiatus was bad, I will admit. Had I not warred with Comcast it wouldn't have been so bad, but I didn't feel comfortable appointing someone in my stead at that interesting time in the contest. Otherwise I don't think I did so bad, and didn't get burned out from hosting it so I'm happy to host again.

2. How did this year's Top Ten compare to others for you?
--Pound for pound this was definitely one of the best I'd say.

3. Which character are you hoping to make a run next contest?
--See below.

4. What was the biggest upset in this contest?
--Delita repeating his top ten performance after people hounded on him being in the top ten last time. It's good that he's finally getting some respect. That being said the buttpants going down early was surprising too, he usually has a solid core that gets him to midgame. I'd like to see a FFT character make a push towards the end some time.

5. Does Zack deserve to be champion? Why?
--Of course. He's my number two character in the series, so I can't say I'm displeased at all.

6. Does Squall deserve to be runner-up? Why?
--He picks up a lot of unwarranted hate, so it's good to see that he can make a final. Against the right opponent he could win one too.

7. What number would you like to see the field at next year? (75/80/85/90/95/100)
--I'm open to suggestions here, but people seem to be okay with staying at 100 with the new boot rules so long as the are more rounds at more varied times.

8. With the floodgates open next year, which newcomers and returners would you like to see?
--I for serious would like to see Aki Ross, but I'm sure that I am like... the only person ever who liked Spirits Within.

9. Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
ban everyone


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GuessMyUserName
05/27/12 2:47:00 PM
#222:


next year is the GOOD train's time

Phantom Train start training

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StifledSilence
05/27/12 2:48:00 PM
#223:


=O

I LOVE Spirits Within, FFD! I didn't know movie characters were allowed in this.

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Achromatic
05/27/12 2:51:00 PM
#224:


The final about went how I expected it to, even my great Luca Blight moment couldn't save poor Squall. I tried, Leon.

1. What did you think about CXIV and the new regime? (#banffd and #longliveffd are both acceptable answers)

I have a lot of respect for you FFD and would follow you through any fire that was not literal, as I don't like you quite that much. The people who tried to undermine this contest and your credibility can go rot in hell as far as I am concerned. You are one of the most honest and noble people this board has ever seen, and I know you don't need the support, but I will bury those people in the future in new and creative ways. Scum Chris is plotting on your behalf, friend. #longliveffd.

2. How did this year's Top Ten compare to others for you?

I don't really care, to be honest. I do these for fun and while seeing Steiner go out before it was of course a tragedy I generally let people have their own opinions regarding these things.

3. Which character are you hoping to make a run next contest?

Steiner for top ten would be glorious.

4. What was the biggest upset in this contest?

Steiner in the top 20 seemed to shock the hell out of everyone.

5. Does Zack deserve to be champion? Why?

Sure, I love Zack. Why? Because he was on my Mercs team.

6. Does Squall deserve to be runner-up? Why?

Sure, great character.


7. What number would you like to see the field at next year? (75/80/85/90/95/100)

The number 90 looks oddly pleasing to me. It would avoid some silly characters while still getting most of the good stuff in there I think.

8. With the floodgates open next year, which newcomers and returners would you like to see?

What are floodgates.

9. Questions? Comments? Suggestions?

Suggestion: Be meaner.

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FFDragon
05/27/12 2:51:00 PM
#225:


I've made the concession that movies will be allowed next contest so charon can get his precious Kadaj in.

On the condition that all movies with the Final Fantasy name be eligible, which would greenlight Spirits Within as well.

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pjbasis
05/27/12 2:55:00 PM
#226:


Movies?

What about...OVAs and tv series?

Gotta get an FFU rep in there.

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StifledSilence
05/27/12 2:56:00 PM
#227:


We simply must get Cid: Donald Sutherland edition in the contest then!

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FFDragon
05/27/12 2:57:00 PM
#228:


Yes, that is what 'opening the floodgates' means. Expanding the contest to cover all forms of Final Fantasy media.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
05/27/12 2:58:00 PM
#229:


steve buscemi for contest champ

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crazyisgood
05/27/12 2:59:00 PM
#230:


Rikku is best

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swordz9
05/27/12 3:01:00 PM
#231:


I feel like suggesting a cap on the amount of characters per game/universe allowed in.

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:05:00 PM
#232:


A universe can't vice grip this contest because of it's nature. Things seem to even out very quickly in the beginning and then pair down evenly towards the end. Most times. Plus a cap would run counter to the idea of having the most wanted characters in the contest.

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swordz9
05/27/12 3:08:00 PM
#233:


Well I mostly suggested it just so one or two games wouldn't take up 25-30 spots by themselves. A cap would leave more spots open for characters from other games and stuff. Even a cap of 8-10 will cut out the weaker characters from those games and leave spots for new characters from various games to join.

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GuessMyUserName
05/27/12 3:11:00 PM
#234:


gotta allow Bravely Default Flying Fairy imho

external image

come on FFD!

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:21:00 PM
#235:


I see your point, but it still think it removes the more popular characters from the contest arbitrarily. This isn't affirmative action where every game needs to be represented.

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Drakeryn
05/27/12 3:22:00 PM
#236:


man she doesn't even look like a proper fairy

I mean what's the point


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GuessMyUserName
05/27/12 3:23:00 PM
#237:


but there's a fairy above her!

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swordz9
05/27/12 3:32:00 PM
#238:


Only 1-2 games would even have an issue with a 10 character cap and majority opinion on who should be in could settle the entrants. I'm not saying every game needs more characters, but this is mostly just to try and prevent any case where a game/universe eats up a giant chunk of newcomer/returner entrants with nominations now that movies and stuff are allowed too.

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th3l3fty
05/27/12 3:38:00 PM
#239:


the chances of any single game/movie/alternate media dominating the nominations next contest are incredibly low

too many people nominating to have that happen!

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:42:00 PM
#240:


Some universes are bigger than others. I know you hate FF7 but next contest it will have four games, a movie, an OVA, several novellas, and a book to draw from... and eleven characters already locked into next contest that I could not remove even if I wanted to.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/27/12 3:44:00 PM
#241:


11?

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vcharon
05/27/12 3:46:00 PM
#242:


Basically swordz sounds like he just wants to support this because of FF7 (literally the only game that can keep pouring in characters). There's no reason to place a limit on the number of characters from one game; so what, keep a major character like Kadaj out so we can have random character no one but jokers care about from FF2 or something?

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:46:00 PM
#243:


Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
11?


1. Zack Fair
7. Barret Wallace
11. Sephiroth
19. Yuffie Kisaragi
20. Cissnei
27. Aeris Gainsborough
37. Cloud Strife
47. Cid Highwind
48. Tifa Lockhart
72. Reno
75. Red XIII

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Xuxon
05/27/12 3:46:00 PM
#244:


Cloud
Sephiroth
Barret
Tifa
Aeris
Yuffie
Cid H
Zack
Cissnei

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:47:00 PM
#245:


hey

I like Emperor Mateus thank you very much.

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pjbasis
05/27/12 3:51:00 PM
#246:


Firion has that JYB factor too.

And Guy likes beavers.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/27/12 3:52:00 PM
#247:


oh

And Emperor BOWIE Mateus will return next year and avoid eliminations

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swordz9
05/27/12 3:55:00 PM
#248:


I don't see anything wrong with not wanting 2 games taking up most of the spots. Nobody cares about FF2 party members enough to want to see them anyways.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/27/12 3:56:00 PM
#249:


FF5 got butt****** hard this contest :(

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FFDragon
05/27/12 3:59:00 PM
#250:


Right, no one cares enough to see them. Yet you want to keep the characters that people do want to see out.

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