Board 8 > I'm not sure if I've ever seen a worse rpg cast than Star Ocean 4.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 8:04:00 AM
#1:


I just got meracle, I have two more empty character slots. So far its like every new character is trying their best to be the new worst in the group. Please tell me it gets better.

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tereziWright
05/20/12 8:04:00 AM
#2:


Nope.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 8:07:00 AM
#3:


I was toying with the idea of declaring Reimi tolerable earlier in the game but it seems now the only interest the script has with her is throwing her naked into proceedings before the high-larious "zomg perv" awkward exchange with Edge. It wasn't funny the first time, just horrible.

I'm also literally describing the best character in the game here.

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Murphiroth
05/20/12 8:08:00 AM
#4:


No, I think it actually gets worse.

I still really enjoyed the gameplay, but the story and characters were atrocious.

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GuessMyUserName
05/20/12 8:17:00 AM
#5:


Rising Stream~

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 8:18:00 AM
#6:


It's seriously that bad the whole way through, Smurf.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 8:37:00 AM
#7:


From: GuessMyUserName | #005
Rising Stream~


Rising Crescent I think you mean, that was the one with GMUN!

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GuessMyUserName
05/20/12 8:37:00 AM
#8:


I was about to ask which one that one was!

glorious timbits

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Meow1000
05/20/12 8:38:00 AM
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*Makes note not to play Star Ocean 4*

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 8:39:00 AM
#10:


Good work Smurf, your topic has caused a fellow forumite to reach enlightenment.

Meow1000 posted...
*Makes note not to play Star Ocean 4*

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 8:41:00 AM
#11:


Thing is, I actually quite liked Star Ocean 3's cast. Had a few eyebrow raisers but Fayt, Cliff, Maria, Albel and Nel were all decent. I did not expect such badness from its successor.

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 8:43:00 AM
#12:


Peppita's and Sophia's voices will haunt my dreams til Kingdom Come, but no one else was exceptionally terrible.

...oh god, Peppita's voice. I can hear... the call... of Seph... ir... ...pita... whoa!

*falls off ledge*

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 8:48:00 AM
#13:


I forget, was there an option in SO3 to switch over to Japanese v...

...wait a minute, then I'd be sacrificing Crispin Freeman as Albel. S***, can't win.

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The Mana Sword
05/20/12 8:50:00 AM
#14:


lol

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SythaWarrior
05/20/12 8:58:00 AM
#15:


But you get the very worst character 4th.

But yes. The entire cast is extremely awful.

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malyg
05/20/12 9:06:00 AM
#16:


Meracle and robot guy were the only ones I found sufferable >_>.
They still wern't that good, but compared to Edge and Lymle...

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malyg
05/20/12 9:06:00 AM
#17:


Oh and the NPC who is on the ship. She's like a hologram or something.
worst. character. ever.

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 9:07:00 AM
#18:


Since this is kind of a Star Ocean topic and all, I'd like to take this opportunity to reiterate that the new artist hired for the PSP version of Star Ocean 2 is awful compared to the original (who was good but I'm not saying he was like... Michelangelo or anything, just better) and really drives home how little I care for the prevailing anime art style in Japan this past several years or so.

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 9:09:00 AM
#19:


PSX Rena:

external image

PSP Rena:

external image

._.

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The Mana Sword
05/20/12 9:09:00 AM
#20:


the original art for so2 was kind of awful

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 9:10:00 AM
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The Mana Sword posted...
the original art for so2 was kind of awful

I didn't hate it! Certainly not as much as I dislike this stuff I'm seeing now. This artwork just feels so bland and uninspired and I don't know... completely lackluster. It looks more generic-cartoon-y but with 'dem devious moe eyes' crap I don't care for and whatnot.

The original art was nothing to write home about but it was more colorful and detailed and impressionable.

and and and

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malyg
05/20/12 9:11:00 AM
#22:


and oh god Myuria. she's around 2 years older than Edge but spends the whole game calling him "boy" -_-

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 9:14:00 AM
#23:


malyg posted...
and oh god Myuria. she's around 2 years older than Edge but spends the whole game calling him "boy" -_-

Edge is like 19, right? That means he's fast becoming a man but not quite there yet in accordance with the JRPG Rules of Age.

If Myuria is 21 then she's a woman who ought to be poppin' out babies soon because she's got like ten years left until she becomes a tragic heroic sacrifice. Again, JRPG Rules of Age.

Normally I'd recommend what I tend to do to make things less ridiculous and add 3-8 years to the age of anyone who seems like they need it, but that'd backfire in this case because turning Edge into a 22-year-old is just going to make Myuria look strangely insecure and possibly worse as a 24-year-old calling him a boy.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 9:15:00 AM
#24:


I'd happily take Peppita and Sophia at this stage. Even Roger.


.....well maybe not Roger.

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Jeff Zero
05/20/12 9:17:00 AM
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Roger... augh

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foolm0ron
05/20/12 9:21:00 AM
#26:


FFXII
Tales of Symphonia

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 9:30:00 AM
#27:


Incidentally whats the best way to arrange roommates for this? I can't find any decent guide on this, is there an optimal configuration for setting up for getting the most endings?

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The Mana Sword
05/20/12 9:32:00 AM
#28:


you need to room faize and Lymle together as much as possible

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 9:35:00 AM
#29:


Lymle refuses to room with him

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The Mana Sword
05/20/12 9:39:00 AM
#30:


you need to try and hit certain personal actions with faize and lymle first before they room together

I forget exactly which ones and when you can access them though

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sonten1
05/20/12 10:10:00 AM
#31:


This is the guide I used to get all the extra scenes/endings. It also says how to arrange the roommates throughout the game.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/946860-star-ocean-the-last-hope/faqs/55911

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Punnyz
05/20/12 10:58:00 AM
#32:


Man I thought SO3 was awful

if SMURF doesn't like 4, definitely avoid it

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 11:07:00 AM
#33:


Thanks for the link sonton, I'll give it a look through.

And pun, the battle system is a lot better in 4. Story feels a lot more disjointed and the character cast is awful. Depends what you didn't like in SO3 (may be a long list). Wouldn't say I don't like 4 it's "ok" but the cast is really bad.

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The Mana Sword
05/20/12 11:15:00 AM
#34:


Yeah the cast is atrocious, but I like the gameplay enough to be able to overlook that.

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pjbasis
05/20/12 12:37:00 PM
#35:


From: Jeff Zero | #018
Since this is kind of a Star Ocean topic and all, I'd like to take this opportunity to reiterate that the new artist hired for the PSP version of Star Ocean 2 is awful compared to the original (who was good but I'm not saying he was like... Michelangelo or anything, just better) and really drives home how little I care for the prevailing anime art style in Japan this past several years or so.


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Radix
05/20/12 12:53:00 PM
#36:


FF13
Tales of the Abyss
Eternal Sonata

Off the top of my head.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 12:56:00 PM
#37:


FF12 and Eternal Sonata had weak casts. SO4 is worst.

FF13 and ToS did not have weak casts. No idea about abyss.

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Mewtwo59
05/20/12 1:01:00 PM
#38:


If you really think those games have worse casts than SO4, you've never played SO4. No other game even comes close to how bad SO4's cast is.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/20/12 1:18:00 PM
#39:


I took a look at like 2 scenes in SO4

My response was :"....Wow. I mean Wow Japan. What the hell is wrong with you guys"

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swordz9
05/20/12 1:22:00 PM
#40:


I like the PSP Star Ocean 1&2 art a lot more. I've never played SO4, but it has always sounded like only the battles are good and everything else is horrible.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 2:06:00 PM
#41:


Am now seeing Edge with the depression debuff. I now take back the feint praise I gave him by terming him "tolerable". He's fitting in nicely with the rest of the team for awfulness.

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tereziWright
05/20/12 2:11:00 PM
#42:


Radix posted...

Tales of the Abyss


No.

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malyg
05/20/12 2:17:00 PM
#43:


__Smurf__ posted...
Am now seeing Edge with the depression debuff. I now take back the feint praise I gave him by terming him "tolerable". He's fitting in nicely with the rest of the team for awfulness.

Oh christ, you're only that far? xD.
Emo Edge is the worst. The scene where he starts screaming when you arrive back at the ship. How you can have a game with Lymle in it, yet somehow trump her for worst scene is beyond me... Faize gives Edge a run for his money later on in the game though.

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 2:55:00 PM
#44:


oh my god sarah. This game just keeps outdoing itself.

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StifledSilence
05/20/12 3:04:00 PM
#45:


Final Fantasy 8

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__Smurf__
05/20/12 3:23:00 PM
#46:


From: StifledSilence | #045
Final Fantasy 8


not even close. At worst it was a dull cast, none of the characters were that bad at all.

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