Board 8 > hah, wow, i completely bombed this semester

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Ness26
05/15/12 10:30:00 AM
#51:


From: Menji76 | #014
Physics 211 is the calculus physics correct? That **** sucked, 212 is what made me stop being an engineer. I took up accounting and love it so I'm glad.


Phys 211 is probably 50 different courses -- it all depends on the school. At mine it was Mechanics without Calculus.

From: agesboy | #005
can't say i've done very much identifying carbon chains in my spare time over the years, i still couldn't tell you which f***ing way E is and Z is because why is there german in my chemistry why


It's memorization. Just come up with some stupid way of remembering which is which. An "E" has things hanging off of same side, and "Z" has things hanging off of opposite sides. This would be a really good way of remembering it, but E-Z isomers are stupid and it's actually the opposite.

Or you can remember it's "zis-trans" isomerism. This pairs Z with cis, which makes it easy to remember.

If you failed Orgo, and got D's in Calc/Physics you should probably get out of your major. You failed Orgo which means you're probably not going to want to do Organic Chem, and the marks in Calc/Physics means you're really not going to enjoy PChem/Analytical so I dunno what you're really looking to do with your degree.

From: Gwindor | #040
I will advise you to switch over the chemical engineering instead of chemistry, if you decide to continue to pursue this path.


If he's having trouble passing Calc/Physics... this seems like a very bad idea.

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X_Dante_X
05/15/12 10:30:00 AM
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objectively huh

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Ness26
05/15/12 10:32:00 AM
#53:


From: _Regaro_ | #051
1000-based numbering is objectively superior


100-based numbering is easier to talk about your classes with others.

Probability/Statistics is surprisingly annoying


I haven't seen a Stats course that has been taught well. They just teach you tests without any theory behind them... my math probability course taught me so much more about stats than any stats course.

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Articuno2001
05/15/12 10:33:00 AM
#54:


I got an A in statistics while browsing the internet in pretty much every class

can't see how it was anything but simple

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_Carlemagne_
05/15/12 10:33:00 AM
#55:


From: Articuno2001 | #254
I got an A in statistics while browsing the internet in pretty much every class

can't see how it was anything but simple


There are 2 types of stats. The easy one you take like in your first semester.

And then there's the hard one you take after 2 semesters of calc.

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X_Dante_X
05/15/12 10:35:00 AM
#56:


I got an A in the calc based stats without going

what was hard about it

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Articuno2001
05/15/12 10:35:00 AM
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From: _Carlemagne_ | #055
There are 2 types of stats. The easy one you take like in your first semester.

And then there's the hard one you take after 2 semesters of calc.


That was the one after two semesters of calc.

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_Regaro_
05/15/12 10:52:00 AM
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From: X_Dante_X | Posted: 5/15/2012 12:35:06 PM | #056
I got an A in the calc based stats without going

what was hard about it


There are so many ways to screw it up, the way my teacher writes problems.

I fall into about half of those, which hurts my grade

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swordz9
05/15/12 10:54:00 AM
#59:


Spending more time on studying and less time on porn games might help quite a bit.

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/15/12 11:04:00 AM
#60:


_Carlemagne_ posted...
From: Articuno2001 | #254
I got an A in statistics while browsing the internet in pretty much every class

can't see how it was anything but simple
There are 2 types of stats. The easy one you take like in your first semester.

And then there's the hard one you take after 2 semesters of calc.


LMAO what

how was that hard at all

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jdizzy156
05/15/12 12:19:00 PM
#61:


From: OmarsComin | #031
teach art!

same as music and dance

you're either one of the select few with real talent who make it, and otherwise you are the 99.9% who teach what you majored in


Basically this.

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Hrezs
05/15/12 12:23:00 PM
#62:


MRNlCEWATCH posted...
_Carlemagne_ posted...
From: Articuno2001 | #254
I got an A in statistics while browsing the internet in pretty much every class

can't see how it was anything but simple
There are 2 types of stats. The easy one you take like in your first semester.

And then there's the hard one you take after 2 semesters of calc.

LMAO what

how was that hard at all


Dude. FTEST. C'mon.

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Zachnorn
05/15/12 1:12:00 PM
#63:


From: Westbrick | #017
Business is actually pretty tough at top programs.


This. I'm in a top program (USC Marshall School of Business, ranked #9 in the nation), and the material can be very challenging at times. If you want to get above a 3.0, you have to work very hard for it, because there is a mandatory average grade in place for each class. People are competitive and push averages to very high levels, and the professors make their classes harder than they would be at your local community college.

There's definitely a difference between taking business classes at a community college compared to a top 10 business school, and I've done both.

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Ness26
05/15/12 1:20:00 PM
#64:


From: Zachnorn | #063
There's definitely a difference between taking business classes at a community college compared to a top 10 business school.


Really?

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Zachnorn
05/15/12 1:21:00 PM
#65:


I can't even believe that something like that needs to be said!

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PartOfYourWorld
05/15/12 1:23:00 PM
#66:


From my limited experience, I wouldn't call history a joke major. Those hist majors did nothing but read and write. They weren't thinking as hard as math majors or anything, but they definitely put their hours in.
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LordoftheMorons
05/15/12 1:24:00 PM
#67:


I have to echo Ness's sentiments though; if you're failing both orgo and physics that leaves what, biochem? If that's the case, you really might as well be doing bio where you won't have to deal with quite as challenging classes. Pchem will basically be quantum and statistical mechanics, which will not be fun if you can't get the basics down.

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PartOfYourWorld
05/15/12 1:28:00 PM
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Hard or not, business is for people who dream of making money without really doing anything. That was the case for me. The day I realized I still had to do crap for money was the worst of my life.
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MRNlCEWATCH
05/15/12 1:30:00 PM
#69:


Hrezs posted...
MRNlCEWATCH posted...
_Carlemagne_ posted...
From: Articuno2001 | #254
I got an A in statistics while browsing the internet in pretty much every class

can't see how it was anything but simple
There are 2 types of stats. The easy one you take like in your first semester.

And then there's the hard one you take after 2 semesters of calc.

LMAO what

how was that hard at all

Dude. FTEST. C'mon.


is this trolling?

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_Regaro_
05/15/12 1:31:00 PM
#70:


From: Zachnorn | Posted: 5/15/2012 3:12:33 PM | #063
there is a mandatory average grade in place for each class


These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that

(Also, when I called Prob/Stat annoying, I meant "Get a B" annoying, not "Potentially fail" annoying, since that seems to have sparked a bit of controversy <_<)

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LordoftheMorons
05/15/12 1:35:00 PM
#71:


Zachnorn posted...
I think the important thing to realize is that different majors require different skills and so difficulty really depends on the person.

I can see someone who is great at math being a terrible with history, for example, if they're not very good writers.


I guess that's true. I'm destroying physics and math, but I think I would die if all of my classes involved writing; I'm not bad at it, but I'm very bad at focusing on writing so it takes me a ridiculously long time to finish papers and lab reports. That said, the only majors I think I absolutely couldn't handle would be foreign languages.

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Zachnorn
05/15/12 1:36:00 PM
#72:


From: _Regaro_ | #071
These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that


You would hate my business school, because all professors there are required to do this because of a policy! This past semester, I had 4 classes like that.

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Zachnorn
05/15/12 1:37:00 PM
#73:


I think the important thing to realize is that different majors require different skills and so difficulty really depends on the person.

I can see someone who is great at math being terrible with history, for example, if they're not very good writers.

EDIT: Fixed typo

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/15/12 1:41:00 PM
#74:


i took a business class when i was at UVA for fun and it was definitely one of the easier A's i've ever gotten

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Ness26
05/15/12 1:52:00 PM
#75:


From: _Regaro_ | #071
These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that


It's usually not the professor -- it's the department. I know the ChemE department at my school forces average to be the B-/C+ line for all but senior level courses.

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/15/12 1:54:00 PM
#76:


Ness26 posted...
From: _Regaro_ | #071
These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that
It's usually not the professor -- it's the department. I know the ChemE department at my school forces average to be the B-/C+ line for all but senior level courses.


yup

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_Regaro_
05/15/12 1:56:00 PM
#77:


From: Ness26 | Posted: 5/15/2012 3:52:21 PM | #075
It's usually not the professor -- it's the department. I know the ChemE department at my school forces average to be the B-/C+ line for all but senior level courses.


From: MRNlCEWATCH | Posted: 5/15/2012 3:54:41 PM | #076
Ness26 posted...
From: _Regaro_ | #071
These classes

These classes are the ****ing worst

**** every professor that does that
It's usually not the professor -- it's the department. I know the ChemE department at my school forces average to be the B-/C+ line for all but senior level courses.


yup


Still an absurdly terrible policy that punishes smart people for not being the absolute best.

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Zachnorn
05/15/12 1:59:00 PM
#78:


From: _Regaro_ | #077
Still an absurdly terrible policy that punishes smart people for not being the absolute best.


It's to combat grade inflation, apparently. There's people worried about too many people getting A's in certain schools that mainly accept A students, so some of those former A students should get B's and C's. There, less grade inflation.

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Ness26
05/15/12 2:01:00 PM
#79:


It's a weed-out. It's done in competitive departments to thin things out for the higher level courses.

I know plenty of idiots that got through to their fourth year with their GPA intact, so if someone couldn't compete with these people I think they deserve to be weeded out.

I don't really see a problem with grading on a distribution if the class is large enough -- makes it easy to account for variations in test difficulty and such.

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OmarsComin
05/16/12 2:07:00 AM
#80:


This. I'm in a top program (USC Marshall School of Business, ranked #9 in the nation), and the material can be very challenging at times. If you want to get above a 3.0, you have to work very hard for it, because there is a mandatory average grade in place for each class. People are competitive and push averages to very high levels, and the professors make their classes harder than they would be at your local community college.

There's definitely a difference between taking business classes at a community college compared to a top 10 business school, and I've done both.


yeah this is what I figured, you're grumpy because you think I took an unintentional s*** on you

there's a small handful of degrees and a small handful of schools that are actually difficult, by and large most of college is not that hard and you'll only fail to obtain a degree if you don't show up. the science and math degrees are probably further towards the "actually difficult" side of the spectrum. at most places, business and psychology are not.

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Rad Link 5
05/16/12 3:24:00 AM
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College is f***ing terrible.

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AdmiralZephyr
05/16/12 2:36:00 PM
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Great job.

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Iamdead7
05/16/12 3:18:00 PM
#83:


I got a 3.08 this semester and thats awful for me. I just had a bad semester

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