Board 8 > The world is not ready for download-only consoles

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Uglyface2
05/07/12 3:02:00 PM
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Case in point: I got the itch to play San Andreas. I couldn't find my disc, so I bought it on XBox Arcade. That's 2.87 GB. I have a very slow connection (low-end DSL). I went to sleep with it downloading. I left for work, and left it downloading. Sometime during the day, I became disconnected; I was at 75 percent.

And this is a last-generation title. Major releases this gen are even bigger. I can't imagine them shrinking next generation.

Until home service gets cheaper, there's still very much a market for disc-based software.
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Tom Waits
05/07/12 3:10:00 PM
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I could make a cup of coffee and have San Andreas ready for me on Steam.

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Paratroopa1
05/07/12 3:12:00 PM
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Tom Waits posted...
I could make a cup of coffee and have San Andreas ready for me on Steam.

A cup of hot coffee?
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GranzonEx
05/07/12 3:12:00 PM
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Downloading on XBL and PSN has always been slow for me.

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mnkboy907
05/07/12 3:13:00 PM
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From: Tom Waits | #002
I could make a cup of coffee and have San Andreas ready for me on Steam.


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agesboy
05/07/12 3:13:00 PM
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Tom Waits posted...
I could make a cup of coffee and have San Andreas ready for me on Steam.

And you don't have low-end DSL, so that's irrelevant.

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Articuno2001
05/07/12 3:15:00 PM
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The thing is, if Steam's download is interrupted, it doesn't stop. It'll automatically resume when the connection comes back up.

PSN / XBL downloads cancel as soon as connection is interrupted.

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The Real Truth
05/07/12 3:16:00 PM
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San Andreas, what a great game. Though I had to re-buy the game (I don't remember from where, probably Play-N-Trade) and I got a black label case, with a greatest hits game. I don't know how I didn't notice this beforehand.

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Tom Waits
05/07/12 3:25:00 PM
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You can resume downloads on a PS3. I'm pretty surprised to hear that's not the same on the 360.

And you don't have low-end DSL, so that's irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant; it's equally anecdotal as the original point. A large number of people don't have to wait 8-10 hours for a 2 GB download, but, yes, some do. If you want better download speeds, get better internet. If that's not available to you, get a disk. No one has to worry about a digital-only home console because that's not happening any time soon.

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Weakupedia
05/07/12 3:26:00 PM
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Tom Waits posted...
You can resume downloads on a PS3. I'm pretty surprised to hear that's not the same on the 360.

And you don't have low-end DSL, so that's irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant; it's equally anecdotal as the original point. A large number of people don't have to wait 8-10 hours for a 2 GB download, but, yes, some do. If you want better download speeds, get better internet. If that's not available to you, get a disk. No one has to worry about a digital-only home console because that's not happening any time soon.


To be fair, he did specifically say "download-only".

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Phase
05/07/12 3:28:00 PM
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Tom Waits posted...
You can resume downloads on a PS3. I'm pretty surprised to hear that's not the same on the 360.

And you don't have low-end DSL, so that's irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant; it's equally anecdotal as the original point. A large number of people don't have to wait 8-10 hours for a 2 GB download, but, yes, some do. If you want better download speeds, get better internet. If that's not available to you, get a disk. No one has to worry about a digital-only home console because that's not happening any time soon.


*looks at topic title*

What is this post I don't even

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Tom Waits
05/07/12 3:28:00 PM
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To be fair, it's a faulty presumption.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/07/12 3:28:00 PM
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As long as you fix the disconnection and restart problem, why not? Even on slow DSL it's faster than ordering it online.

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shadosneko
05/07/12 3:30:00 PM
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You can resume downloads on 360.

I downloaded Sine Mora on a 3G connection over a couple days.

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Mozzezz
05/07/12 3:49:00 PM
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You definitely should have upgraded your connection by now to at least cable (unless you live somewhere where you can't), but I still agree partially, most should be download only though. For really big (I'd say we're at least talking around full blu ray disc single layer size, 25GB) or really popular downloads it could be faster to get the disc in some way, or for some reason you could be using up most of your bandwidth at the time and need to speed it up by getting the disc because of that. This is all still assuming that the console maker hosts all the downloads and has good servers too. There's also the fact that with really important games, if the disc is only a little more, you may want the extra back up option.

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shadosneko
05/07/12 3:51:00 PM
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From: Mozzezz | #015
(unless you live somewhere where you can't)


This is actually a lot more common in the US than you would think!

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SovietOmega
05/07/12 3:51:00 PM
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The world as it is is not ready now, but assuming progress is made with connection speeds, it will happen in the near future. Give it a generation of consoles or two.

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agesboy
05/07/12 3:55:00 PM
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I'm still stuck on dialup at home, so if the next gen requires constant internet connection, I can't buy the system. It's not available in my location and I live on a highway two minutes outside the most populated town in the parish, by the way. >_>

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Wanglicious
05/07/12 4:05:00 PM
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you want to complain about downloading games?

Payne 3 is 35GB.
that's 1.5x the size of Dragon Age Ultimate Edition.
it is absolutely ridiculous what they're asking for of a game with that length.

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Wanglicious
05/07/12 4:09:00 PM
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and no. the world ISN'T ready for this and won't be ready for a long, long time. games themselves are getting bigger by a ridiculous amount - if Payne 3 is a sign of things to come we're looking at uncompressed 1080p - and then eventually MORE on the PC side - videos. within 3 years we're going to find games that ask for 50GB.

and even on cable, that's a long, long download.

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psychward
05/07/12 5:02:00 PM
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Call me old fashioned but I prefer to have a hard copy anyways.
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