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GuessMyUserName 04/30/12 10:12:00 PM #201: |
yeah with War, I mean I disagree with letting him completely off the hook (as I said), but I can understand the decision, so if that's FFD's call then whatever go ahead.
lefty though... there's no defense, so yeah if that's a 2 day ban then that's bad. FFD we need a clarificationnnn -- http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/alt0165/sojin.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 04/30/12 10:13:00 PM #202: |
rabble rabble rabble
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vcharon 04/30/12 10:13:00 PM #203: |
Xuxon posted...
2 day ban makes no sense, but then, neither does the rule lefty broke. so "lol FFD" either way. No, he was shadily asking people to save characters behind the scenes that they wouldn't save otherwise. I don't disagree with people telling their friends the round is up; I disagree with them directly influencing them by making them vote for their characters because they have no real interest in this contest. -- Still smilin' :> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 04/30/12 10:14:00 PM #204: |
Well, hopefully the round goes up fairly early tomorrow because I'm going to be pretty busy throughout the afternoon.
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WarThaNemesis2 04/30/12 10:16:00 PM #205: |
voltch asked me to tell him when rounds were up. I saw the 'no prompting' thing as 'don't randomly go up to people and say 'HEY SMFFFC' which is what caused the rule in the first place. I outright told FFD that if I was wrong about what the rule meant, then what I did was in fact prompting.
I assume that lefty initiated things and was banned for that (and that the (2) is noting his second time on the banlist). -- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png TRUE B8UCA Lightweight Champion. WORSHIP ME! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 04/30/12 10:17:00 PM #206: |
he was telling them what to do in topic half the time early on. it's not much different from you guys coordinating to get everyone from FFX safe.
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vcharon 04/30/12 10:19:00 PM #207: |
If you mean 'everyone' as in trading Tidus for Rikku... then yeah there's a big difference.
The big difference is the majority of the banned people don't give a single crap about Final Fantasy and are basically just trolling. Plus, as witnessed, people like that tend to go out on limbs when they feel it is necessary such as what happened at the end of the last round we had. People that have no actual characters they want to see do well have nothing to lose and no real interest in the contest, meaning they are more prone to simply cause trouble by mass rallying or other types of annoying feats of strength. -- Still smilin' :> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 04/30/12 10:22:00 PM #208: |
I actually agree with charon's post, despite being the most open "I have no one left to support" guy left.
I somehow have respect for the contest and its lineage though, so I refuse to break any rules in it and never have. I get my excitement by seeing people desperate at end of rounds! -- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 04/30/12 10:23:00 PM #209: |
that and seeing wiegraf burn, oh how he burned
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GuessMyUserName 04/30/12 10:25:00 PM #210: |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | Posted: 5/1/2012 1:16:12 AM | #205 didn't know this, so yeah I'm okay-ish about you... I mean I still believe what you did is save prompting either way, and if I were host I'd give you a 3 round ban for breaking the rule even if accident like how accidental lawyering is 5 round ban but Denzo lawyering is a contest ban but yeah I don't blame you or hold this decision against FFD -- http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/alt0165/minah2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 04/30/12 10:38:00 PM #211: |
the save prompting ban is totally nonsensical and was added as a completely reactionary measure due to FFD not having a handle on how to control the contest properly. since it was instituted it has been invoked in highly arbitrary and inconsistent ways
edwards save prompts a person one time - permanent ban lefty save prompts a person multiple times - permanent ban or possible 2 only round ban(?) War save prompts the same person multiple times - no punishment EDIT: all of the other people who have save prompted (I've seen logs and know that voltch had proof on more than just these three) - get off scott free apparently -- http://i.imgur.com/cTX7Y.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xuxon 04/30/12 10:40:00 PM #212: |
From: vcharon | #207 banning people for that makes more sense. but lefty obviously does care, and isn't trolling. he was basically just taking advantage of their votes. which, while walking a fine line, shouldn't be his problem if the rules made sense. like, this is hard to explain, but suppose there was no rule against reminding regulars that rounds are up or their save time is up (which there wasn't early in the contest, which these logs could be from). and there's obviously no rule against coordination/trading. then lefty would have done nothing wrong, and the only way to stop it is to ban votes that are being influenced by lefty. (not that i have a problem with FFD assuming he did break the rules, only with the rules themselves) -- My rivalry with SuperNiceDog turned out a bit one-sided. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 04/30/12 10:42:00 PM #213: |
in fact all of the problems with this contest can be traced back to FFD having an increasingly hard time enforcing the rules when he needed to and reacting by changing them, ignoring them, or coming up with new ones. . . till it escalated to the point where he now feels he has to make up for it by mass banning a bunch of people and yet still being just as reluctant to dole out justified punishments as ever
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mnkboy907 04/30/12 10:47:00 PM #214: |
What I'm getting from this is that save prompting is okay, so long as the person wants you to prompt them. And so long as you tell FFD about it.
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Shoenin_Kakashi 04/30/12 11:01:00 PM #215: |
man this whole thing is more goober than the thing Dante did last contest <_<
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edwardsdv 04/30/12 11:02:00 PM #216: |
From: FFDragon | #185 So, I ban myself to help bring this is all to light SPECIFICALLY SO you could trust my word and War and Lefty essentially get off scot-free, Coolio. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 04/30/12 11:02:00 PM #217: |
From: mnkboy907 | Posted: 5/1/2012 1:47:18 AM | #214 well the defense seems to be "it wasn't clarified" I guess we'll have to see tomorrow if it gets clarified.... if not then yeah apparently it's okay for some reason -- http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/alt0165/minah2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crazyisgood 05/01/12 12:10:00 AM #218: |
sleepy
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pjbasis 05/01/12 12:14:00 AM #219: |
I just wanna do some saving and some trading
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captaincanadian 05/01/12 12:16:00 AM #220: |
at some point a save my contest is taken too seriously
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Shoenin_Kakashi 05/01/12 12:19:00 AM #221: |
this contest passed it looooong ago
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WarThaNemesis2 05/01/12 12:21:00 AM #222: |
I think we passed that point so long ago we're getting ready to lap it.
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vcharon 05/01/12 12:24:00 AM #223: |
captaincanadian posted...
at some point a save my contest is taken too seriously it seems we have surpassed that point Only happens when it becomes this popular and draws an outside crowd. It then ceases even being about the source material and instead devolves into a user popularity contest. That's the only problem this contest has ever truly had. -- Still smilin' :> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlasmaKappa 05/01/12 12:36:00 AM #224: |
sounds good to me
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Achromatic 05/01/12 1:11:00 AM #225: |
Great job as always FFD.
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User728 05/01/12 4:13:00 AM #226: |
So the bans are based on who FFD likes/dislikes. lmao what a complete joke.
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SockoDeus 05/01/12 4:20:00 AM #227: |
From: Achromatic | #225 I concur. FFD best host of the ever. -- SuperNiceDog was here... 7Deuce is a loser ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 05/01/12 8:02:00 AM #228: |
Looks like I'm gonna get in one save max today.
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voltch 05/01/12 8:34:00 AM #229: |
War13104 signed on at 18:23:07
War13104 (18:27:18):ok voltch now you HAVE to stay until your next save lordvoltch (18:27:26):why? War13104 (18:27:54):lefty literally downloaded a program so he could save Cecil while away. AND IT WORKED War13104 (18:01:38):also no don't withdraw War13104 (18:02:21):Now you can devote yourself entirely to Cloud of Dadness. War13104 (18:02:36):and also if you withdraw I will be sad :-( -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrettEagles 05/01/12 8:35:00 AM #230: |
leftybot
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GenesisSaga 05/01/12 9:25:00 AM #231: |
Peacetime
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saveus_Maria 05/01/12 9:26:00 AM #232: |
leftybot shall go down as one of the finest moments in SMFFFC History
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junk_funk 05/01/12 11:01:00 AM #233: |
Get this s***show back on the road already. Where's the new round?
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GenesisSaga 05/01/12 11:15:00 AM #234: |
What's the excuse this time?
And guys are we really going to do this? Every time FFD decides on a new round ya gonna leak more drama and make him postpone it? Cause that's lame as f***. >_> -- <3 Crimmy - http://img.imgcake.com/CrimsonOcean/GenDrak0001jpgyz.jpg Thanks Drak - http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/genesissagajpgat.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vcharon 05/01/12 11:18:00 AM #235: |
Good thing you guys were all such good "friends" and stick together. Seriously, you need to watch who you're friends with around here apparently.
Also... yeah. I really hope there's a round tonight because good lord. -- Still smilin' :> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 05/01/12 11:20:00 AM #236: |
GenesisSaga posted...
What's the excuse this time? Probably another lolcomcast. -- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 05/01/12 11:20:00 AM #237: |
I dunno I was asleep, his comcast should have been fine (morning)
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Gatarix 05/01/12 11:24:00 AM #238: |
Yeah, the main take-home message I'm getting from all of this is never to let voltch get hold of any kind of sensitive information.
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voltch 05/01/12 11:26:00 AM #239: |
Drake should take his ball and go home, dude's really been annoying me for no real reason.
We're seeing some asian on asian hate crime here and really you've got such a complex mr Drake. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 05/01/12 11:27:00 AM #240: |
drop the e and back away
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voltch 05/01/12 11:28:00 AM #241: |
See I can't even remember such an insignificant user's name properly given how awful he is.
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The Mana Sword 05/01/12 11:38:00 AM #242: |
voltche
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mnkboy907 05/01/12 11:40:00 AM #243: |
voltche and gabbana
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voltch 05/01/12 11:41:00 AM #244: |
Novake is finishede
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The Mana Sword 05/01/12 11:43:00 AM #245: |
Save Mye Favorite Finale Fantasye Charactere XIVe
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mnkboy907 05/01/12 11:44:00 AM #246: |
Ye Olde SMFFFCe
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voltch 05/01/12 11:46:00 AM #247: |
Hell the only reason I've been saving in this contest is because lefty rallied me into voting here.
Sure it was kinda fun for a little while but not something I was going to lose sleep over, then I rallied a couple of users for Cloud Strife and other FFVII characters just to mess around a little with lefty. I mean really making fun of vcharon you don't need a contest for it I don't have a need to even bother making fun of him since I barely see him or inviso or whoever. I've never seen half these users outside of this topic. Hell I when I saved Freya or lightning it was apparently a "wrong" choice according to em so yeah. w/e -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 05/01/12 11:47:00 AM #248: |
so since this contest is apparently dead who wants to run Save My Favorite Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Character XIV Banned User
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The Mana Sword 05/01/12 11:47:00 AM #249: |
You're supposed to rally for Kuja if you want to mess with lefty.
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The Mana Sword 05/01/12 11:48:00 AM #250: |
DarthVader87
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