Board 8 > You are a *****ing idiot if you don't understand Necron.

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Yeah, there. I have seen SO MANY videos the past week saying (dur, WTF?) and I am about to murder people. For the love of god, if you were not expecting this guy, you fail at life, the game throws it in your face for 2 disks. Thank you, rant over.

You should explain all the foreshadowing for everyone

It would be an interesting read

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Thank you, rant over.

No, thank YOU.

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Yeah I've never heard about this before.

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It is fought as the final boss, appearing in the area Hill of Despair and represents death itself. Necron's ultimate goal is to reduce everything to nothingness. Its appearance in the game is somewhat of a mystery, as it arrives unexpectedly and its character is never fully explained.

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shadosneko posted...
I'm thinking I've just been spoiled to a game I haven't played.

It's not anything too major, honestly.

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this topic contains ff9 spoilers



i thought he was talking about warhammer 40k for a second, then vaguely remembered some final fantasy boss

also damn



bad ass. why can't final fantasies look exactly like their concept art

It is pretty damn cool though.

I dig when stuff like that happens now and then.

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Because Necron is the exception when it comes to concept art. If every FF character looked just like Amano drew them, then...

Hrm.

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also damn



bad ass. why can't final fantasies look exactly like their concept art

monsters and inanimate objects are the only things which would be better if they looked more like Amano art. His character art is the worst thing ever

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From: shadosneko | #006
I'm thinking I've just been spoiled to a game I haven't played.

Necron's appearance is, as far as the story goes, ridiculously random, even though it does make sense in hindsight. The idea of seeing him coming beforehand from foreshadowing on a first play-through is fairly absurd. It's not really a big spoiler, because before that he had no named direct influence on the story.

MWC did not see Necron coming all along, and he's lying about it to try and be smug because he is a total tool, as usual.

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Amano Zidane looks like a total badass.

So does Amano Steiner.

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He was obviously an evil mutated Yoda.

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You said Necron and I thought of something else.

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F*** yeah they do.

Zidane and Steiner are exceptions that prove the rule, though. And...Locke, maybe?

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From: pjbasis | Posted: 4/22/2012 1:34:55 AM | #013
Amano Zidane looks like a total badass.

So does Amano Steiner.

Yeah, I guess, but it looks like he forgot he was supposed to be drawing Garnet and drew Celes instead.

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maybe he shouldn't make them all blonde

just a thought

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well yeah i wanted to gag when i saw the concept art of some of the characters i was already accustomed to, but if they had been that way from start to finish it could be great

haven't looked at a whole lot of this guy's stuff, though.

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 4/22/2012 1:42:39 AM | #019
maybe he shouldn't make them all blonde

just a thought

I'd agree, but Garnet is a brunette.

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Ok, someone list these moments of foreshadowing because I forget them.

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From: Wedge Antilles | #022
Ok, someone list these moments of foreshadowing because I forget them.

Well in Disc 1, Brahne says "I hope we don't have to use that..." when referring to methods in which to retrieve Dagger.

Sometime in Disc 2, Zidane says "I can feel him calling to me...N..."

In Terra, it is revealed that Garland serves a higher master when he is seen talking to himself on his thone. (Some speculate this to be Chaos, a la FFI, as Necron is the Japanese name for Chaos in the original game).

I think that's all of them.

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RayDyn posted...
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 4/22/2012 1:42:39 AM | #019
maybe he shouldn't make them all blonde

just a thought
I'd agree, but Garnet is a brunette.

Not when Amano draws her.

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FFIX was an amazing RPG and a great send off for RPGs Golden Age. It had a fantastic cast(Quina God Tier), and a lovable story that even the most cynical gamer couldn't help but enjoy.

who cares about its final boss..like...at all.

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TheConductorSix posted...
FFIX was an amazing RPG and a great send off for RPGs Golden Age. It had a fantastic cast(Quina God Tier), and a lovable story that even the most cynical gamer couldn't help but enjoy.

who cares about its final boss..like...at all.

I'm pretty sure Semi and HGR don't enjoy FFIX, and they're among the most cynical gamers I know!

(Also LOL Quina)

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Semi has a good taste in other things and HGR is a bad, bad person

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yeah, but Semi/HGR are Necron fanboys. that counts for something, right?


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That's not the point.

The point is that you lied and you should feel bad about it.

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

Well I'm a completely reasonable guy and I don't even think FFIX is very good.

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Drakeryn posted...
yeah, but Semi/HGR are Necron fanboys. that counts for something, right?


They only admire Necron because they share his desire to completely wipe FFIX out of existence!

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

They only admire Necron because they share his desire to completely wipe FFIX out of existence!

Well, true, but I'm trying to stay positive here. Stop being so cynical.


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Nay, I refuse to stand idly by and watch Board 8 continue to disproportionately love this game!

You have forced me to become a cynic in order to bring balance to the Force despite the fact that I like the game a lot!

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

I think I finally figured out why too. I think I managed to crystalize why I'm not big on it last night when I was talking about it with Sytha yesterday.

The problem with the game is that almost every time you first visit a town nothing significant happens there. The big thing happens later. The draw of the first time through a town is exploring the town for the most part. So the result (for me) is none of the locations feel all that significant or memorable. The first impression is the most important one, they say. This also causes me to blend the story events together to some extent cause you always come back to cities for the important stuff so you can't tie things to locations (and hence I can't sequence them) as easily.

FFIX is the only FF game I can't really recite from beginning to end-- just has a hard time being memorable.

(There's also too much minigame collectable stuff to collect even for a FF game and the combat system might be the slowest of a FF game but these are different issues I could've pointed out earlier)

So yeah your masterpiece is unmemorable how do you feel about that.

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Hey you don't go back to Burmecia and Cleyra later!

Wait why am I defending this

Darn it

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

You say towns as if there were many.

Alexandria and Lindblum are the only ones that fit your description of "explore first and story later."

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Yeah and not surprisingly Burmecia is the only event in the game outside of the Terra stuff where I remember exactly where it happens

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So if FFIX has it's naysayers, which RPG that isn't Chrono Trigger has pretty much nothing but positive reactions to it?

Like, while they aren't my favorite, I don't think I've seen anyone dislike Grandia or Skies of Arcadia.

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Well not just towns. Locations in general. It's just really hard to sequence any of them cause hardly any of them are introduced to you with fanfare. Might partially be poor dungeon design too.

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pjbasis posted...
You say towns as if there were many.

Alexandria and Lindblum are the only ones that fit your description of "explore first and story later."

Treno, Conde Petie, and Black Mage Village also work for this.

Lindblum is also too big for its own good.

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

I thought he was talking about the guy from Street Fighter 3, but then I realized that guy is called Necro, not Necron.

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KJH posted...
So if FFIX has it's naysayers, which RPG that isn't Chrono Trigger has pretty much nothing but positive reactions to it?

Like, while they aren't my favorite, I don't think I've seen anyone dislike Grandia or Skies of Arcadia.

People dislike Skies of Arcadia.

Not me though! Best non-FF JRPG out there imho

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From: LeonhartFour | #040
Treno, Conde Petie, and Black Mage Village also work for this.

I forgot about Treno (I always do even though I love that place).

Conde Petie and Black Mage Village count as much as Madain Sari.

Nothing happens except downtime there.

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And yeah there's just a lot of backtracking in general. It's a good way to increase the length of the game, I guess, but it kinda hurts it imhhho.

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Grandia was an absolute disaster. Characters and plot were a trainwreck. Justin and Sue, in particular, are really high up my list of characters I would like to personally drown. The battle system had some neat things going for it, but not nearly enough to redeem that mess.


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Backtracking in FFIX?

I don't recall too much except the second half of Disc 2 (which is admittedly entirely backtracking).

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So if FFIX has it's naysayers, which RPG that isn't Chrono Trigger has pretty much nothing but positive reactions to it?

Persona 4

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Less known, but Seiken Densetsu 3 is pretty much highly regarded as all hell.

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Also uh I don't think I've heard of anyone disliking Suikoden 2 if we're throwing names in the hat

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I haven't heard anyone say anything bad about Chrono Cross




















that shouldn't be ignored.

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