Board 8 > **Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Character XIV** -- Day 64 [smfffc]

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Lopen
04/02/12 10:09:00 PM
#401:


Good lines don't work if you have to edit them in

If you'd passed your girl scout badge assignment you'd know that.

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:09:00 PM
#402:


Well I have a Jeong account already and that theory is dreadful! And Yuna Yamaha > all, but Tidus is OK in my book!

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saveus_Maria
04/02/12 10:10:00 PM
#403:


alright Inviso

you can thank charon for this

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:11:00 PM
#404:


Lopen posted...
Good lines don't work if you have to edit them in

If you'd passed your girl scout badge assignment you'd know that.


Yeah well

YOU DONT EVEN SHOW UP HALF THE TIME

You aren't allowed to comment tbqh, Sephy is ashamed.

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LeonhartFour
04/02/12 10:12:00 PM
#405:


Jeff Zero posted...
Well I have a Jeong account already and that theory is dreadful! And Yuna Yamaha > all, but Tidus is OK in my book!

I know the theory is dreadful. That's the point!

Perhaps we can reach some sort of acceptable compromise. With Balthier eliminated, an opening in my priorities has presented itself. We can add a sidecar to the Yuna Yamaha perhaps.

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Lopen
04/02/12 10:12:00 PM
#406:


No super bad results yet since I've been abandoning the game

Sleeping through rounds is what we in the business call "a power play"

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:12:00 PM
#407:


From: LeonhartFour | #405
I know the theory is dreadful. That's the point!

Perhaps we can reach some sort of acceptable compromise. With Balthier eliminated, an opening in my priorities has presented itself. We can add a sidecar to the Yuna Yamaha perhaps.


Oh, that's a very nice deal.

I will continue to pretend X-2 never happened and smile at the bittersweetness of such an extension. I dig.

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LeonhartFour
04/02/12 10:13:00 PM
#408:


Also I will make (another) Tales of Symphonia account and close it.

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:13:00 PM
#409:


saveus_Maria posted...
alright Inviso

you can thank charon for this


Hey look FFD, a masked threat. Can we take some action? I think this is a clear case of rallying or attempted rallying, I mean look how evident it is.

</overreaction to a save contest with FF characters>

Clearly you guys discussed this prior to FFD posting about it, too many of you are privy to the knowledge. If there wasn't some discussion about it elsewhere, why does anyone but ngirl know about this? How's my detective work there.

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FFDragon
04/02/12 10:14:00 PM
#410:


The SMFFFC Board of Directors have been called into an emergency session that will most certainly take place across scattered PMs over the night to discuss possible outcomes to this situation.

THANKS GUYS.

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X_Dante_X
04/02/12 10:14:00 PM
#411:


I'm trying my best to learn the art of sleeping through rounds, but I'm still but a padowan. typically I end up missing half due to a nap though

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:15:00 PM
#412:


From: LeonhartFour | #408
Also I will make (another) Tales of Symphonia account and close it.


This rice is gettin' sweet n' sour, so pass me the soy sauce 'cause I think we have a kung pwned

(That means yes)

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:16:00 PM
#413:


From: X_Dante_X | #411
I'm trying my best to learn the art of sleeping through rounds, but I'm still but a padowan. typically I end up missing half due to a nap though


Weren't you supposed to be firing shotgun shells at tornadoes

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/02/12 10:16:00 PM
#414:


I only slept though this round because I got called to work in about.....15 min

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LeonhartFour
04/02/12 10:17:00 PM
#415:


Jeff Zero posted...
From: LeonhartFour | #408
Also I will make (another) Tales of Symphonia account and close it.
This rice is gettin' sweet n' sour, so pass me the soy sauce 'cause I think we have a kung pwned

(That means yes)


Excellent.

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X_Dante_X
04/02/12 10:17:00 PM
#416:


From: Jeff Zero | #413
Weren't you supposed to be firing shotgun shells at tornadoes

dude, they all retreated at the last second, when I got down to my last bullet - it was a miracle

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FFDragon
04/02/12 10:17:00 PM
#417:


Now I'm curious as to who you think I've discussed this with beforehand.

I like me some R-Truth style conspiracy theories.

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Inviso
04/02/12 10:18:00 PM
#418:


Literally what I said:

Inviso: Can Kuja count on your support again this round? Again being the key word.

NGirl: Yep.

Inviso: Yaaay!

NGirl: :D

One hour passes...

Inviso: You can save again now. >_>

Forty-five minutes pass...

Inviso: *cough*

NGirl: mm?

Inviso: You can save again now. <_<

NGirl: oh right

NGirl :)


That is LITERALLY the extent of "rallying". Me asking a person who saved Kuja in the past if she was going to do again. She told me yes. And I reminded her that she could save again twice over the course of about one hour, forty-five minutes, the second reminder spurring her into saving Vivi.

Now, if that's f***ing harassment, then either NGirl has the thinnest skin on the planet, or this is all bulls***, because honestly, when someone uses two different kinda of smiley face emotes...I don't really consider them being harassed or uncomfortable.

This is why this contest is a goddamn joke, FFD, because apparently one group is fully allowed to coordinate on AIM and make deals with each other and you don't do a goddamn thing about it. But I get immediately called out over something like this. Honestly, it wouldn't bother me so much if you would just ADMIT that you don't give a s*** about being fair and impartial and "cracking down" on people, because then at least it would explain why some blatant bulls*** has gone down ALL contest long.

Seriously, just Sunday we had a morning round with low attendance in the early going. Lefty gives Cecil his usual save, fine. Meanwhile, Shoe, War...the two voters that can usually be relied upon to give Cecil has second and third saves, are MIA. Expected...not everyone can be around for every round. But then Nio, who WAS around, saves Cecil. Nio, who is already considered part of that voting bloc, saves Cecil. Now, Nio has saved Hope, Cloud of Darkness, Delita and Wiegrat...but in my recollection, Cecil has never been at the top of his list. Yet in an instance where Shoe and War weren't around and Nio was, Nio saves Cecil for possibly the first time (I've certainly never noticed him saving Cecil before).

This is why I don't save my favorites anymore. I save characters that have a chance. This is why I have to make sure that people who normally save my characters are around to do so, otherwise I have to trade for them. Because as it stands, this contest is as big of a joke as contest XIII. Seriously, just ADMIT that you're part of that group, FFD. I mean, you might as well with the level of kid gloves you've handled them with, and how you constantly announce how you and Dante are BFFs and he would never do anything underhanded. At least then it wouldn't feel like you're just incompetent and unwilling to listen.

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:18:00 PM
#419:


FFDragon posted...
The SMFFFC Board of Directors have been called into an emergency session that will most certainly take place across scattered PMs over the night to discuss possible outcomes to this situation.

THANKS GUYS.


I've yet to hear it explained how this is rallying.

This is nothing more than a rebuttal from a few rounds ago where "certain accusations" were made and you know it. Trying to get even, etc. You're the host. You aren't raytan, don't diddle around.

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FFDragon
04/02/12 10:19:00 PM
#420:


I banned Drak. That's pretty damn impartial from me.

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:19:00 PM
#421:


FFDragon posted...
Now I'm curious as to who you think I've discussed this with beforehand.

I like me some R-Truth style conspiracy theories.


War knew where the conversation took place before anyone said where it did.

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:21:00 PM
#422:


And yeah, if that's the actual log and the full extent of it this is a joke of a discussion.

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:23:00 PM
#423:


Well since we're posting AIM logs..

War13104 8:19 pm
voltch told me about Inviso's message, and I'd prefer to gather one more piece of information before giving advice. How often have you two chatted about SMFFFC on AIM?

nintendogrl1 8:19 pm
me and viso?
never

War13104 8:20 pm
Because while I would find it hilarious to get Inviso banned for cheating after her paragraphs murdering me

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
me and voltch?
rarely

War13104 8:20 pm
I'd much prefer to have a real case of rallying

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
yeah

War13104 8:20 pm
Yeha I meant Viso/You

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
i am going to hold off from saving kuja
and see if she "reminds me"

War13104 8:21 pm
...I would say that's rallying then. If you had a pre-set alliance or something I wouldn't worry about it, but..well....
Yeah if she reminds you then it's definitely rallying

nintendogrl1 8:21 pm
yep


As you can see, ngirl was made clearly concerned about legitimacy by Inviso. And as further proven, this was the literal first time Inviso ever discussed the contest with ngirl.

It should be noted that people have tried to get me banned on far less evidence. Hold people to their own standard.

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Lopen
04/02/12 10:24:00 PM
#424:


Yeah it takes a big leap to assume that any Inviso rallying behavior would take place on AIM

Because she's clearly never done anything like that before!

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FFDragon
04/02/12 10:24:00 PM
#425:


Okay now we got to how War found out, but how did voltch find out?

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:25:00 PM
#426:


YOU goaded her into it! She didn't even have a problem with it until you made it a problem!

You guys are ridiculous.

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:26:00 PM
#427:


ngirl messaged voltch with concern, after which he asked me for help.

nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:39): but inviso has asked me if she can count on my kuja support

(00:38:46): and I don't know how best to spin it
lordvoltch 12:38 am
(00:38:47): oh huh

(00:38:49): how so?
nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:50): to screw people up
lordvoltch 12:38 am
(00:38:53): via PMs?
nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:59): via AIM


(00:39:01): Inviso 12:34 am
Can Kuja count on your support again this round?


OF NOTE IS THAT THIS IS VOLTCH TIME, NOT MINE

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:27:00 PM
#428:


Seems to me you omitted critical parts of the log, like why they were talking about SMFFFC in the first place.

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Inviso
04/02/12 10:29:00 PM
#429:


From: FFDragon | #420
I banned Drak. That's pretty damn impartial from me.


Oh big deal. You banned a guy for five rounds over a minor infraction to flex your muscles. A guy who pretty much stays out of the way and isn't associated with the group I've pointed out MULTIPLE times. A guy who didn't actually lose anything of value to him during his five-round ban.

Big f***ing deal.

I make point after point about other people rallying and all that sort of stuff, and it all gets played off as a joke. But when I have that EXACT conversation with NGirl (to be fair, there were three more lines:

Inviso: I was going to save Vivi >_< (NGirl saved Vivi when I had a trade with mnk where I'd save Vivi in exchange for Zidane, and NGirl's save came at about one minute before my save was up, giving me very little time for a back-up plan)

NGirl: oh

NGirl: I just picked an ff9 character.
)

Then suddenly I'm public enemy number one and contest is DEAD serious to you. FFD, you KNOW I've rallied in the past. And you KNOW that if I wanted to rally for Kuja, I would have gone to someone not in the contest and physically asked them to save Kuja for me. But no, because I'm not part of the ruling group, this is the perfect chance to make me the bad guy.

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:30:00 PM
#430:


*insert Theme of House Lannister here*

*insert wholesale slaughter of children and infants to said theme here*

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FFDragon
04/02/12 10:30:00 PM
#431:


but inviso has asked me if she can count on my kuja support and I don't know how best to spin it to screw people up

'oh'

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:30:00 PM
#432:


fine then have all my conversations

WARNING: GONZALEZ/TAKER AND RAW SPOILERS











voltch:


lordvoltch 6:45 pm
Still think Giant Gonzalez owned Taker in that match

lordvoltch 8:08 pm

nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:59): via AIM

(00:39:01): Inviso 12:34 am
Can Kuja count on your support again this round?
looks like Inviso's rallying

War13104 8:08 pm
who gave this to you? >_>

lordvoltch 8:09 pm
nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:39): but inviso has asked me if she can count on my kuja support

(00:38:46): and I don't know how best to spin it
lordvoltch 12:38 am
(00:38:47): oh huh

(00:38:49): how so?
nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:50): to screw people up
lordvoltch 12:38 am
(00:38:53): via PMs?
nintendogrl1 12:38 am
(00:38:59): via AIM


(00:39:01): Inviso 12:34 am
Can Kuja count on your support again this round?

War13104 8:09 pm
well then

War13104 8:11 pm
I uh....am not quite sure.

lordvoltch 8:13 pm
Well
this certainly has potential

War13104 8:16 pm
If she's unsure about it, then it implies they haven't chatted about SMFFFC much

lordvoltch 8:16 pm
Lefty's convinced it could be enough
well in that case it could be Inviso rallying an "outside" source

lordvoltch is available 11:13 pm
ICHIRO!!! 5d and 14h ago Comment
lordvoltch 11:13 pm
hey

War13104 11:13 pm
hey

lordvoltch 11:13 pm
you didn't warn me Brock came back

War13104 11:13 pm
you're welcome

lordvoltch 11:49 pm
watching a replay
kids literally don't know how to react
while the adults are just jumping up and down

War13104 11:59 pm
heh

lordvoltch 11:59 pm
Kids don't watch UFC

War13104 11:59 pm
yep

lordvoltch 11:59 pm
like you could tell some of the adults didn't recognie the music

War13104 11:59 pm
Honestly I didn't either

lordvoltch 11:59 pm
but exploded once they saw the UFC champion come out
oh

War13104 12:00 am
I was looking away when the titantron hit

lordvoltch 12:00 am
Brock's my fav

War13104 12:00 am
I was in a state of 'wait what'
then 'OH <WORD FOR POO> THAT'S WHO'

lordvoltch 12:00 am
In my EWR booking I never make Brock lose since I like that guy so much
but man
Extreme Rules already against Cena?

War13104 12:01 am
Yeah in my TEW games
I never depush Brock
It just feels wrong to not have him crush everything
(yes I have had games with like a 15-year long Brock World Title reign)

lordvoltch 12:01 am
he was the one wrestler who lived up to his nickname of The Next Big Thing
there is nothing wrong with that














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Inviso
04/02/12 10:31:00 PM
#433:


Oh it's so good to know that voltch and War are both having discussions about this contest over AIM in which they deliberately plan to f*** me over and throw me under the bus. Because that's just COMPLETELY unexpected.

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:32:00 PM
#434:


MORE RAW SPOILERS















War13104 12:01 am
I'm not sure if we're getting Brock/Cena
or Brock/Punk
or neither
at ER

lordvoltch 12:03 am
Brock vs Sheamus tbh is what I want to see most

War13104 12:04 am
heh

lordvoltch 12:06 am
Well in terms of wrestlers who use Brawler movesets
who fits better?

War13104 12:06 am
I don't think Sheamus is credible enough to be put with Lesnar
tbh

lordvoltch 12:08 am
Well he could be a stepping stone
Brock's gonna need some fodder to re-establish himself to the audience

lordvoltch 12:10 am
Brock vs Orton i guess is something we'll see
















END SPOILERS

ngirl:

nintendogrl1 is available 8:17 pm
Online: 6h 37m

War13104 8:17 pm
hey

nintendogrl1 8:17 pm
hey war
how goes it?

War13104 8:17 pm
pretty good, you?

nintendogrl1 8:18 pm
bout the same
no work because teachering is awesome
and easter
:-D

War13104 8:18 pm
awesome
:-D

nintendogrl1 8:18 pm
and you?

War13104 8:18 pm
not much, watching bad Nitro to get hyped up for Raw

nintendogrl1 8:19 pm
heh
raw in 40 minutes?

War13104 8:19 pm
yeah

nintendogrl1 8:19 pm
cool

War13104 8:19 pm
voltch told me about Inviso's message, and I'd prefer to gather one more piece of information before giving advice. How often have you two chatted about SMFFFC on AIM?

nintendogrl1 8:19 pm
me and viso?
never

War13104 8:20 pm
Because while I would find it hilarious to get Inviso banned for cheating after her paragraphs murdering me

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
me and voltch?
rarely

War13104 8:20 pm
I'd much prefer to have a real case of rallying

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
yeah

War13104 8:20 pm
Yeha I meant Viso/You

nintendogrl1 8:20 pm
i am going to hold off from saving kuja
and see if she "reminds me"

War13104 8:21 pm
...I would say that's rallying then. If you had a pre-set alliance or something I wouldn't worry about it, but..well....
Yeah if she reminds you then it's definitely rallying

nintendogrl1 8:21 pm
yep

War13104 8:21 pm
...is it bad I really want her to remind you?

nintendogrl1 8:21 pm
nope

War13104 8:21 pm
yay I won't feel bad then

nintendogrl1 8:22 pm
kuja only needs 1 more save though
so no-one can do it

War13104 8:22 pm
true



AND THEN I WATCHED KEVIN NASH HAVE RED CRAP POURED ON HIM IN A MATCH WITH JEFF JARRETT

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nintendogirl1
04/02/12 10:32:00 PM
#435:


From: vcharon | #428
Seems to me you omitted critical parts of the log, like why they were talking about SMFFFC in the first place.

We were talking about football actually. And then viso messaged me. And since voltch is a poster in these things, I brought it up with him.

I don't know if I've wandered accidentally into the middle of a political minefield but it seems to me I'm voting for characters who are on Inviso's "team" while being considered on someone else's "ruling team" so f*** knows what all that is about. I just try and save characters I like. I don't know anything about what goes on in the background.

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Lopen
04/02/12 10:32:00 PM
#436:


Seriously though I know Inviso rallies everyone but you're posting logs asking how to spin making her appear guilty and "I'd much rather have a real case of rallying"

I have scruples I can't support imping this on.

Gosh you guys are so bad at this

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:33:00 PM
#437:


Inviso, no matter how much you accuse me of cheating, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't. You've tried to have me banned on far, far less evidence than is against you. Whether you get banned or not isn't up to me, but don't accuse me of cheating on nothing then moan about being accused on something of at the very least some substance.

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Jeff Zero
04/02/12 10:35:00 PM
#438:


The macadamia nuts were hard hitters. The Gundamium-Gundanium-Titanium-Linoleum Composite Alloy of Gundam Cavalier's rich, velvety exterior cracked and crunched like a bad batch of Keebler's and the heinous antagonistic center fell out like a smooth criminal. He was also in the possession of a rather plump ass.

Really, the guy was obese. He dressed up in a red costume that did nothing to complement or compliment or even comment remotely well about his unfocused figure. He also wore a goofy half-mask that, had he been undercover, would have had the mysterious effect of causing everyone around him to not realize who he really was.

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vcharon
04/02/12 10:35:00 PM
#439:


This is why this contest is no fun at all. I actually play this to save my favorite characters. I play any game that same way. No other contest is so full of ill will and resentment, mostly because certain people don't normally participate in save games that aren't this one.

Check other contests, this sort of crap just doesn't happen. This isn't what makes this contest "great". It's what ruins it. Few people are friends, there are rifts between groups of people who have no real reason not to get along other than petty crap.

ngirl, that is how this game SHOULD be played and that's exactly what you did; walked right into a minefield to be a pawn for people. These guys take this so seriously they would do anything in their power to ruin other people's fun. It really is sad. Save the characters you like, shut your mouth. That should be how this game works.

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Inviso
04/02/12 10:35:00 PM
#440:


From: WarThaNemesis2 | #437
Inviso, no matter how much you accuse me of cheating, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't. You've tried to have me banned on far, far less evidence than is against you. Whether you get banned or not isn't up to me, but don't accuse me of cheating on nothing then moan about being accused on something of at the very least some substance.


YOU AND VOLTCH PHYSICALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE INTENT OF F***ING ME OVER!

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LeonhartFour
04/02/12 10:36:00 PM
#441:


Yes, let's all be friends! There is enough room on the Whatever Wagon and the Tidus Train to accommodate everyone comfortably!

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mnkboy907
04/02/12 10:36:00 PM
#442:


From reading what was said between Inviso and ngirl, I don't see how that's rallying. She asked someone who's already saved Kuja if she was going to save him again. She could've made it clear why she was being so adamant about it (ie, letting ngirl know she was just figuring out if she'd need to trade for Kuja or not), but that still doesn't make it rallying. Just... a little tactless.

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:36:00 PM
#443:


Inviso posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #437
Inviso, no matter how much you accuse me of cheating, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't. You've tried to have me banned on far, far less evidence than is against you. Whether you get banned or not isn't up to me, but don't accuse me of cheating on nothing then moan about being accused on something of at the very least some substance.

YOU AND VOLTCH PHYSICALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE INTENT OF F***ING ME OVER!


You do know that the 'how to spin' part was Ngirl, right?

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voltch
04/02/12 10:36:00 PM
#444:


Hey Lopen, I was prolly gonna discuss the whole RAW ending stuff with you anyway.

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Inviso
04/02/12 10:37:00 PM
#445:


From: WarThaNemesis2 | #443
Inviso posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #437
Inviso, no matter how much you accuse me of cheating, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't. You've tried to have me banned on far, far less evidence than is against you. Whether you get banned or not isn't up to me, but don't accuse me of cheating on nothing then moan about being accused on something of at the very least some substance.

YOU AND VOLTCH PHYSICALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE INTENT OF F***ING ME OVER!


You do know that the 'how to spin' part was Ngirl, right?


Oh, so now that everything's out in the open, you're just gonna User NGirl and throw her under the bus.

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Lopen
04/02/12 10:37:00 PM
#446:


I'm tempted to join the Kuja/Seymour alliance

Or whatever it is

Just because that was such a deplorable effort at drama

(not that me joining an alliance is worth anything but THE SPIRIT)

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saveus_Maria
04/02/12 10:37:00 PM
#447:


From: vcharon | #409
saveus_Maria posted...
alright Inviso

you can thank charon for this


Hey look FFD, a masked threat. Can we take some action? I think this is a clear case of rallying or attempted rallying, I mean look how evident it is.

</overreaction to a save contest with FF characters>

Clearly you guys discussed this prior to FFD posting about it, too many of you are privy to the knowledge. If there wasn't some discussion about it elsewhere, why does anyone but ngirl know about this? How's my detective work there.


A threat? I don't make threats, friend. This is the first I've heard of the ngirl thing, but it's not the first I've heard of Inviso's attempted rallying. Now, let me show you how a true detective settles things.

*slams hand on the table*

I call to the witness stand. . . NioraptH !!!

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WarThaNemesis2
04/02/12 10:38:00 PM
#449:


Inviso posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #443
Inviso posted...
From: WarThaNemesis2 | #437
Inviso, no matter how much you accuse me of cheating, it doesn't change the fact that I didn't. You've tried to have me banned on far, far less evidence than is against you. Whether you get banned or not isn't up to me, but don't accuse me of cheating on nothing then moan about being accused on something of at the very least some substance.

YOU AND VOLTCH PHYSICALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE INTENT OF F***ING ME OVER!

You do know that the 'how to spin' part was Ngirl, right?
Oh, so now that everything's out in the open, you're just gonna User NGirl and throw her under the bus.


Of course not, you're the one who tries to throw the innocent into the banned pile.

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saveus_Maria
04/02/12 10:39:00 PM
#450:


Huh, what's that? A testimony isn't enough?

You say this isn't the kind of thing Inviso does all the time, but what do you say in the face of decisive proof?!

*waves paper in the face of the courtroom*

From: NioraptH | #999
Saturday, 2012 March 03 (10:46:15)
[10:46] Inviso2004: Question: Who are you planning on saving in a few minutes?
[10:48] b8niorapth: no clue~ i just save whatever i feel like saving



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