Board 8 > What are some games that EVERYONE thought was going to suck

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and had nearly zero hype behind it but then went on to be well received by reviewers and sold well?

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Is there anyone that thinks "this game is gonna suck!!"? Normally if something doesn't look good people just ignore it. Maybe that's just me.

Still, I'll say Final Fantasy 9 (and simultaneously give the middle finger to the guy in the soundtrack topic, ha!)

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I don't think anyone had particularly high hopes for Deus Ex: Human Revolution, but that game ruled

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In a way, Mass Effect 3.

I don't think anyone really expected it to be awful, but before it's release there were maybe five people on the internet still prepared to say anything remotely positive about Bioware. And it's definitely been reviewed well, even if most of 'the community' is still complaining about it.

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Probably some of the recent Sonic games.

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people were not optimistic about Metroid Prime, i dunno about "suck" though

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Metroid Prime is a great answer. I don't think people were really like "wow, this is going to SUCK", but there was a lot of skepticism about whether or not the game could work, and it wound up being one of the greatest games of all time.

Mario Galaxy and Resident Evil 4 are the two high profile games that most people were skeptical of, suspecting they were further nails in the coffin of dying franchises. Instead they got two of the greatest games of their time.

For outright suck its kind of difficult because if something was widely considered to suck it'd get very little preview or pre-release interest so you wouldn't really notice. I guess those games that nobody followed their release which suddenly became big post-release are worth mentions. Valkyria Chronicles and Demons Souls are two.

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The recent Sonic games is actually a really good answer.

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came in to say metroid prime

i remember people being very skeptical about the switch to 3D/FPS and an unknown developer

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RE4 had a lotta hype, I actually got a Gamecube in anticipation of it's release.

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New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a great example. Almost everyone was ragging on it prior to release, for several reasons: the graphics looked horrible in the screenshots, the original NSMB was a big letdown to many, and Wii hatred was already in full swing. It turned out to be one of the most successful Mario games ever, though, and I think it's generally well-liked in hardcore gaming circles. It certainly shocked the hell out of me, anyway - it's one of my top three Mario games.

Aside from that, there's also Kirby's Epic Yarn. Initially, a lot of people saw that it had "Epic" in the name and had a yarn visual style, and responded with a resounding "LOLno." In the end, though, it became one of Nintendo's most acclaimed games of the last few years.

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Windwaker to a degree, I guess.

The first Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright? Both of those sold out because they underestimated how popular they'd be over here, if I remember correctly.

[EDIT: Actually, I suppose people didn't think those two were gonna suck, just that there wasn't much of an opinion of it, since it was new]

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From: Psycho_Kenshin | #011
RE4 had a lotta hype, I actually got a Gamecube in anticipation of it's release.

Initially, then it seemed to get lost in developer hell, when they finally came out with details it was soulless and looked dated. Nobody was too interested, until that redesign and the village/chainsaw video came out. Took people by surprise at that stage.

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Metroid Prime

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From: Psycho_Kenshin | #011
RE4 had a lotta hype, I actually got a Gamecube in anticipation of it's release.
Initially, then it seemed to get lost in developer hell, when they finally came out with details it was soulless and looked dated. Nobody was too interested, until that redesign and the village/chainsaw video came out. Took people by surprise at that stage.

Even if your description was 100% factual, which it can't be since nobody can really say what the reaction was of everybody, we agree there was plenty of hype when people saw what the actual game was looking like with the village etc. Thus, it's not a game everyone thought was gonna suck when it was released, pretty much the opposite, it had lots of hype prior to release.

Just sayin', one of the most hyped games (if not #1) on Gamecube doesn't really fit in here. Sure it did have a long dev history with many different builds, but that doesn't mean people weren't hyped for it.

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I don't know the sales of ghost reconstruction 3ds, but it matches the first two clauses. Rayman origins isn't done on sales yet either, and the underwhelming sales are on just about every system so we'll see soon there.

But demon's soul.

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I don't think Mario Galaxy is a good example, either. All the previews I saw were very, very positive.

It's hard to think of many examples, though, because games journalism is mostly just a glorified hype machine.

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BlackMageJawa posted...
In a way, Mass Effect 3.

I don't think anyone really expected it to be awful, but before it's release there were maybe five people on the internet still prepared to say anything remotely positive about Bioware. And it's definitely been reviewed well, even if most of 'the community' is still complaining about it.

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh...

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I believe Suikoden was originally touted as being just another JRPG in the shadow of Final Fantasy, and it came out around the same time as Final Fantasy 7 was getting massive hype which gave it a very diminished hype of it's own. I'd say it qualifies.

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Melee got a lot of "rehash" hate before it was released.

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Mass Effect 2

Probably not the suck part, but it was off the radar for most people. I was hyping this game for a long time, saying Mass Effect could be one of the greatest trilogies ever and people were laughing. Then they started releasing more and more footage of the game and people became more interested.

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50 Cent: Blood on the Sand

I'm not sure exactly how well received by professional reviewers it was or how it sold but the game is supposed to at least okay which is way better than anyone ever though it would be.

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Mass Effect 2, again, that game had plenty of hype. Even if the hype was built up before the release, if people are pumped for the game before it's out I mean that's what counts. Plus there were tons of ME fans pumped all along.

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Metroid Prime is probably the best answer, although strangely enough my 11-year-old self was completely hyped for it the entire time (it's the only game I ever preordered).

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Saints Row 2 seems like a good one.

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I dunno if the "sold well" part applies, but Butcher Bay is pretty much the poster child of this.

Oh, and Bayonetta. Good god, you guys couldn't get over the fact that it turned out not to be pure awful.

It's too early to tell, but maybe Kid Icarus

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Mass Effect 2 had a Super Bowl commercial for Christ's sake!

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bayonetta is platinum games, the team with DMC, God Hand, and Viewtiful Joe devs. i don't think anyone expected it to bad and instead everyone expected it to be the second coming fo DMC3.

and they were right.

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50 Cent: Blood on the Sand

I'm not sure exactly how well received by professional reviewers it was or how it sold but the game is supposed to at least okay which is way better than anyone ever though it would be.

Sadly true.

Rented it when I had Gamefly just for the hell of it.

Great game.

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From: RevolverSaro | #028
It's too early to tell, but maybe Kid Icarus

man this was hyped since the initial trailer came out.

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50 Cent: Blood on the Sand

I'm not sure exactly how well received by professional reviewers it was or how it sold but the game is supposed to at least okay which is way better than anyone ever though it would be.

YO FIDDY JUMP OVER DAT BIGASS RAMP

Mortal Kombat 9

Not EVERYONE said it would suck, but some did and I think it's fair to say that most were at least skeptical of the claims that it would be a legit tournament level fighter. The lack of location testing alone had many in the FGC writing it off entirely, and a lot of people were shocked when it was announced for EVO. Then the prerelease demo came out with balance issues that had people expecting the worst despite assurances from the dev team that it was based on an old build.

Then it finally came out, and while not THE MOST FIGHTER EVER, it was completely legit and by far the deepest entry the series had ever seen, just as had been claimed.

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metroid prime is pretty much the correct answer, I've never seen a more clear contrast between pre-release skepticism and post-release "this is one of the best games of all time".

Metroid Prime had a lot of skepticism when it was announced to be a first-person game, but the prerelease coverage had turned everyone around before it actually came out. Nobody expected a bad game on release day.

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Deadly Premonition.

Also Nier.

Though I guess neither sold well. Eh.

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yeah Metroid Prime is the big one

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I thought Nier was still generally thought of as pretty bad except for it's amazing soundtrack

Nier is highly regarded by people who played it.

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From: Liquid Wind | #040
I thought Nier was still generally thought of as pretty bad except for it's amazing soundtrack

Maybe if you suck at fishing. It's an amazing game otherwise.

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I played Nier.
Nothing amazing about it.

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The Wind Waker for sure

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