Board 8 > whoa wait, IGN gave Ninja Gaiden 3 a 3/10?

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GrapefruitKing
03/19/12 11:08:00 AM
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I wasn't really looking forward to that game, but... that's just bad

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GrapefruitKing
03/19/12 11:08:00 AM
#2:


http://ps3.ign.com/articles/122/1221070p1.html

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BIGPUN9999
03/19/12 11:09:00 AM
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IBSHINE

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pjbasis
03/19/12 11:09:00 AM
#4:


Uprising got an 8.5 though.

Cons were "too much, though awesome, talking" and "Perfect control scheme that's a bit uncomfortable"

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Psycho_Kenshin
03/19/12 11:10:00 AM
#5:


This game does look bland and a cash-in that we don't need (like DOA5), and I was skippin this myself. Buuut, I will say, to me, this review score means nothing as always.

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paperwarior
03/19/12 11:15:00 AM
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Gatdamn, it's the new God Hand! :3 ...No, it probably just sucks.

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GuessMyUserName
03/19/12 11:18:00 AM
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From: pjbasis | Posted: 3/19/2012 2:09:38 PM | #004
Cons were "too much, though awesome, talking" and "Perfect control scheme that's a bit uncomfortable"


... what

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iiicon
03/19/12 11:19:00 AM
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From: pjbasis | #004
Cons were "too much, though awesome, talking" and "Perfect control scheme that's a bit uncomfortable"


I hope you're paraphrasing wrong, because that makes no sense.


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TheOceIot
03/19/12 12:41:00 PM
#9:


XFD

Did anyone actually expect this game to be good without Itagaki and the original Team Ninja at the helm? It looked horrible from the start.

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The Mana Sword
03/19/12 12:48:00 PM
#10:


can't spell ninja gaiden without ign

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Achromatic
03/19/12 12:49:00 PM
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I have this game preordered.

Time to look for other stuff to get.
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The Real Truth
03/19/12 12:50:00 PM
#12:


From: TheOceIot | #009
XFD

Did anyone actually expect this game to be good without Itagaki and the original Team Ninja at the helm? It looked horrible from the start.


It's like people expecting Square to make another good game with Sakaguchi gone.

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GTM
03/19/12 12:51:00 PM
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From: iiicon | #008
I hope you're paraphrasing wrong, because that makes no sense.




i read it

basically said talking is funny and awesome but sometimes distracts you from the action or the action distracts from the talking

and the control scheme is perfect in the sense that it is necessary, but it's uncomfortable

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SHINE GET 64
03/19/12 4:27:00 PM
#14:


yep and getting 7 and 8s everywhere else.

Can't take much from a review that complains about the story for half of the review!

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/19/12 5:24:00 PM
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That's because the story is half the game! Lots of cutscenes, dialog, "cinematic" bulls***, etc

And that Giant Bomb quicklock was DREADFUL

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SHINE GET 64
03/19/12 5:27:00 PM
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I enjoyed what I saw in the Quick Look! Seemed like they were won over too by the end of it.

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/19/12 9:39:00 PM
#17:


"If you're playing a game, where you are a ninja who's fighting a giant metal dinosaur, and it's boring, something went wrong!"

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Shoenin_Kakashi
03/19/12 9:41:00 PM
#18:


From: The Mana Sword | #010
can't spell ninja gaiden without ign




My god.....

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SHINE GET 64
03/19/12 9:48:00 PM
#19:


playing it now so we'll see how this goes! That London stage is indeed the first stage.

Picked Hard from the beginning since Hero is supposed to be easier than Ninja Dog and Normal mode is still pretty much a cake walk.

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SHINE GET 64
03/19/12 10:14:00 PM
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hey died in stage 1 in like the 3rd major fight

things are looking up!

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 9:22:00 AM
#21:


4/10 for RE:ORC


http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1221157p1.html


IGN is on fire this week

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tereziWright
03/20/12 9:26:00 AM
#22:


4/10 for ORC seems right, though.

It's from the PSP Socom team for god's sake.

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MRNlCEWATCH
03/20/12 9:26:00 AM
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it gets a 8.5/10 from IatGN the more important review score site

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Rad Link 5
03/20/12 9:36:00 AM
#24:


IGN ballsing up and using the entire ten-point scale.

Or their pageviews were going down and they needed an attention grab.

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Rad Link 5
03/20/12 10:46:00 AM
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So after reading some of that IGN review, I'm convinced new!Team Ninja is trying to hard to be "taken seriously," whatever that means. Trying to have Ryu face moral dilemmas, removing the fanservice from Dead or Alive 5. It's like they don't understand why people liked either series to begin with!

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/20/12 10:55:00 AM
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I got the game right now. Post detailed impressions later

it's...lol so far

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pjbasis
03/20/12 11:58:00 AM
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I appreciate the new harsh reviewer overlords, especially for high profile games.

Silent Hill Downpour also got a 4/10 I believe.

Maybe now 7/10 will actually not mean horrible game.

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/20/12 12:24:00 PM
#28:


This game is terrible

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GuessMyUserName
03/20/12 12:28:00 PM
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From: Rad Link 5 | Posted: 3/20/2012 1:58:41 PM | #025
So after reading some of that IGN review, I'm convinced new!Team Ninja is trying too hard to be "taken seriously," whatever that means. Trying to have Ryu face moral dilemmas, removing the fanservice from Dead or Alive 5. It's like they don't understand why people liked either series to begin with!


sooo much agreeing

they keep removing stuff their games are known and loved for just to be "taken more seriously" augh

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/20/12 2:16:00 PM
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lright so, here's some early Ninja Gaiden 3 impressions, after completing the first three days/levels. All the big problems with this game stem from the fact that Hayashi and his crew either dumbed down or completely took away elements and mechanics from NG1/2, and didn't replace them with anything of any substance.

-UTs have been dumbed down. You only get one weapon(well it's the Dragon Sword in Stage 1, it's another sword in stage 2, but they're exactly the same), and you only get one UT. They've completely done away with the metagame of balancing essence for money/UTs, getting space to do the on-landing UTs, blocking to not absorb the essence, everything. As soon as you land and hold the button, you're completely invincible and you kill a few guys the same way every time. It's boring, brainless, backwards step for the UT system.

-Aiming with the arrows are a real gag reel too now. There's no thought neccesery, you just jump in the air, press L2 to aim(you can even hold it for slow-mo, for whatever reason), press R2 to fire, and soon as you land, dodge-jump and do it again. The game automatically aims at enemies for you when you hold aim. You don't even have to be facing the same direction of the enemies, the game will do a 180 for you and give you a perfect shot, leave your brain at the door. There's several projectile battles with turrets, jetpack guys, and helicopters, and they're all the same thing with zero challenge or fun involved.

-You have one ninpo attack now, this giant dragon animation that kills a few dudes on screen AND heals you completely. You have to build it up by killing people. It's kinda like Asura's Wrath, where you mash buttons against a bunch of guys and then if you're in danger/bored fighting wave after wave of repetitive goons, and bam. You get to watch the same 10 second animation that happen the last 30 times you hit the ninpo buttons. There's really no incentive to even keep the ninpo, cuz you lose it after the fight. You can't build it up during some of the boss encounters, so the places where you actually WANT to use the "help me out here, game!" attack, you can't. There's no MASTER NINJA rank or anything to earn at the end for not using ninpo, it's just...this move that you can do from time to time. It sucks.

-STEEL ON BONE is a new feature, that's basically just OTs, but with more button mashing and its less reliable. Someone said you can chain SOBs, but its not a very reliable strategy. Sometimes they come out, sometimes they don't. I literally can't tell what the requirement is. Do they have to be near you? Because that doesn't work. Do they have to be weak? Because that's kinda lame. After the steel on bone thing, they walk around/crawl on the ground, and the game LOVES to aim Ryu at them instead of the actual enemies attacking you. So it's kinda like one OT, and then another OT. You don't really need to do the second one, since so far the enemies never try to crawl to you and kill you like NG2, it just builds ninpo. If you REALLY want to see that dragon animation just one more time.

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/20/12 2:17:00 PM
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-In-Game Tutorial/QTEs option is the same thing, so you have two choices:

1. Have the game always remind you how to wall-run, wall-jump, jump to the wall to kunai climb, do all that s*** you already know to do, etc.

2. Turn them off entirely, then have to guess what button to press for QTEs. There's one QTE where you have to hold L1 and R1 and mash O to open a door. I didn't know that. The game won't tell you if you don't put on the in-game tutorial.

There's just no middle-ground.

-I like the slide. It serves the same purpose of the evasive roll of old, but it can all be an offensive move. You can slide into enemies and they'll flop in the air, it's a decent way to approach enemies.

-Enemies just don't shut the f*** up. Every stage you'll get 6-8 lines the bad guys will randomly say every 10 seconds. I'M GONNA CARVE YOU UP KILLING IS MY BUSINESS KILLING IS MY BUSINESS I DON'T WANNA DIE, I DON'T WANNA DIE, HE'S CRAZY, I'M GONNA CARVE YOU UP.

-Every time the screen fills up with projectiles(as it is want to do with the Rocket guys on Hard), the game slows to a crawl. It's like playing King of Fighters XII online, pre-patch, its actually kinda funny how bad it is.

-Ryu Hayabusa is more bully then badass in this game. There's this theme about the morality in all his killing, but its dynamically opposed to the objective of the game(aka be an awesome ninja who kills dudes with style). One minute the game is trying to make you feel bad about killing a guy who surrendered and starting begging for his life(not really a spoiler, its very early in the game), the next they're giving you this eleborate QTE killing another guy like "YEAH WASN'T THAT AWESOME!?". You do a neat looking combo and you feel like the s***, then you see everybody crawling away begging for mercy, and you feel like s***. It's not you have much choice in the matter. There's no Renegade/Paragon stuff. You just keep killing and trying to have fun, and the game will occasionally wag it's finger at you for doing what the game tells you to do. Hell, the game REWARDS you for killing people when they're begging for mercy. It's bizarre

-Add all that together, and then remember that the combat is just straight up BORING. Wave after wave after wave of badguys with the same moves and dialog, and you just mash buttons and dodge occasionally. You got one weapon with dozens of dial-a-combos, but because they're so many, it makes them all less special. In NG1, you only had a few set combos, and you had to know which ones were good in whatever situation. Can I do three hits here or four? Can I do the quick X-Y-Y combo to get out of range of horizontal attacks, or should I get out my bigger weapons for quick Forward-Y lunges? In NG3, you have 5x the amount of enemies to deal with on a regular basis, and you find that the best strategy is to just keep mindlessly mashing X and occasionally Y. It's more Dynasty Warriors then Ninja Gaiden, more concerned about throwing lots of enemies at you you then anything resembling NG1's finese, or even NG2's variety(because as s***ty as that game was, at least they gave you a variety of weapons/moves, and ninpo/aiming/UTs weren't braindead simple). You find yourself sighing when ANOTHER wave of enemies shows up, and if you're doing that in a Ninja Gaiden game, SOMETHING HAS GONE HORRIBLY WRONG.

-And outside sword-fighting guy, all the bosses are f***kng terrible. ESPECIALLY the T-Rex, which is one of the worst boss fights in recent memory.

So yeah...it's bad. Dreadful, even. I'm gonna keep playing just to say I did it, but there's little joy to be had here, just morbid curiosity. Ninja Gaiden 3 is a f***ing horrid game, and an even worse Ninja Gaiden. IGN's 3/10 review is right on the money.

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 7:02:00 PM
#32:


Sorry you don't like it!

Will you join my online clan? <3

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 7:04:00 PM
#33:


7.7 from GT. About spot on with how I feel about the game.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-ninja-gaiden/728301

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Weakupedia
03/20/12 7:06:00 PM
#34:


i should play NGSigma 1 and 2 some day

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 7:57:00 PM
#35:


multiplayer can be a bit laggy if you do World matches, but the 4 on 4 teams are a blast.

Love going into ghost mode and getting invisible kills on guys

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 9:24:00 PM
#36:


finally figured out why I was having so many problems with Hard mode

I wasn't Izuna Dropping enough! Such a simple concept, but I had completely forgotten about it. Now it's just like NGS2 Izuna spamming and finishing them with an OT while they're on the ground.

Those claw guys were just too much before

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SHINE GET 64
03/20/12 10:08:00 PM
#37:


I hear there's a cameo from a character from the NES games later in the game. Someone flying a jet. I hope it's Rob!

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/21/12 6:22:00 AM
#38:


It is

spoilers

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SHINE GET 64
03/21/12 6:27:00 AM
#39:


best ninja gaiden character

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SHINE GET 64
03/21/12 6:17:00 PM
#40:


lawl just won a 2 on 1 ninja handicap match

one guy was like level 28 too. I'm only level 13 at the moment.

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UberPyro64
03/21/12 6:32:00 PM
#41:


5.5 from Gamespot. It's Mediocre.

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swirIdude
03/21/12 6:51:00 PM
#42:


The game isn't good, but did IGN still take this chance to give it the dreaded 3? Of course.

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SHINE GET 64
03/22/12 6:31:00 AM
#43:


all online trophies done!

still gotta work on the ninja trials though

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