Board 8 > So can we agree that this console gen has no clear winner?

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Vlado 03/10/12 11:24:00 AM #101:	*Robazoid posted...* some games that just plain don't work on one controller as compared to another... Are you trying to sugar coat the fact Wii's controller is s*? -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:890642] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...some games that just plain don't work on one controller as compared to another...Are you trying to sugar coat the fact Wii's controller is s*? -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/10/12 11:24:00 AM #102:	From: Robazoid \| #099 Even if I couldn't, saying 'game library' is an idiot move because then you run into dozens of issues in using this. Who decides which games library is better, you, me, critics, my mom? We'd all have a different idea. Then you have multi-platform games, console exclusives, some games that just plain don't work on one controller as compared to another... Sales, meanwhile, are absolute. They're also how the 'winner' was determined last generation when guys like Sess and Vlado had no reason to feel butthurt because the winner wasn't Nintendo XFD typing all that to dodge the subject. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:890643] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: Robazoid \| #099Even if I couldn't, saying 'game library' is an idiot move because then you run into dozens of issues in using this. Who decides which games library is better, you, me, critics, my mom? We'd all have a different idea. Then you have multi-platform games, console exclusives, some games that just plain don't work on one controller as compared to another...Sales, meanwhile, are absolute. They're also how the 'winner' was determined last generation when guys like Sess and Vlado had no reason to feel butthurt because the winner wasn't NintendoXFD typing all that to dodge the subject. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 03/10/12 11:26:00 AM #103:	'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine' -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:890644] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> 'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine' -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 03/10/12 11:27:00 AM #104:	From: GranzonEx \| #096 When you compare the Wii's library to the PS360PC, can you honestly say the Wii is the winner? Yes, because it sold more. And PC is to console what a tank is to a car. You just can't compare them like that. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) SuperNiceDog: Guru winner <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:890645] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| #096When you compare the Wii's library to the PS360PC, can you honestly say the Wii is the winner?Yes, because it sold more.And PC is to console what a tank is to a car. You just can't compare them like that. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)SuperNiceDog: Guru winner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWYOFACEANDWOW 03/10/12 11:27:00 AM #105:	10 years from now Guy 1: Man that one generation with the 360, PS3, and Wii...one of those really didn't fit. The Wii was absolute garbage. Guy 2: No! It won that gen! -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>SAWYOFACEANDWOW posted [p:890646] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> 10 years from nowGuy 1: Man that one generation with the 360, PS3, and Wii...one of those really didn't fit. The Wii was absolute garbage.Guy 2: No! It won that gen! -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 03/10/12 11:29:00 AM #106:	*Robazoid posted...* 'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine' You didn't answer the question. Which console has the best library? That may be arguable, but we know which of the three's library is the worst - the Wii's. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:890647] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine'You didn't answer the question. Which console has the best library? That may be arguable, but we know which of the three's library is the worst - the Wii's. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 03/10/12 11:29:00 AM #107:	People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well. Let me ask you this, who won the last gen? -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:890648] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well.Let me ask you this, who won the last gen? -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/10/12 11:29:00 AM #108:	ITT Wii Sports Resort is as good as Bioshock. Never change b8. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:890649] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> ITT Wii Sports Resort is as good as Bioshock. Never change b8. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 03/10/12 11:30:00 AM #109:	god damn you guys are easy to troll this is just embarassing -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:890650] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> god damn you guys are easy to trollthis is just embarassing -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball.http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWYOFACEANDWOW 03/10/12 11:30:00 AM #110:	*Robazoid posted...* People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well. Let me ask you this, who won the last gen? This post cannot be serious. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>SAWYOFACEANDWOW posted [p:890651] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well.Let me ask you this, who won the last gen?This post cannot be serious. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 03/10/12 11:30:00 AM #111:	*Vlado posted...* Robazoid posted... 'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine' You didn't answer the question. Which console has the best library? That may be arguable, but we know which of the three's library is the worst - the Wii's. In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8 In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there. You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answer -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:890652] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Vlado posted...Robazoid posted...'LOL a guy points out something most people learn at five years old, that 'is X better than Y' is a subjective opinion, omg lol dodging the point. Victory is mine'You didn't answer the question. Which console has the best library? That may be arguable, but we know which of the three's library is the worst - the Wii's.In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there.You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answer -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 03/10/12 11:32:00 AM #112:	From: Robazoid \| #111 In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8 In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there. You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answer You can. It's called a consensus. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:890653] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: Robazoid \| #111In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there.You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answerYou can. It's called a consensus. -- Witty sig about SuperNiceDog winning the guru </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 03/10/12 11:33:00 AM #113:	And how do you measure consensus? And don't BS me and say 'lololol already mentioned', take the two seconds to retype it. In my mind, sales are a pretty objective way to measure this sort of thing. Counterpoint me with something that won't differ depending on the opinion of one person to the next -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:890654] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> And how do you measure consensus? And don't BS me and say 'lololol already mentioned', take the two seconds to retype it.In my mind, sales are a pretty objective way to measure this sort of thing. Counterpoint me with something that won't differ depending on the opinion of one person to the next -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWYOFACEANDWOW 03/10/12 11:34:00 AM #114:	*GranzonEx posted...* From: Robazoid \| #111 In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8 In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there. You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answer You can. It's called a consensus. Bingo. And we reached the consensus years ago that the Wii sucked. I swear yall nintendo fans are like Bigfoot hunters. He doesn't exist, and the Wii isn't a good console. Just get over it already. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>SAWYOFACEANDWOW posted [p:890655] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> GranzonEx posted...From: Robazoid \| #111In my opinion? The PC, probably followed by the 360 because I willingly left my Wii at my brothers house 500 kilometers away after I visited there because all I ever played on it was Mario Party 8In my brothers opinion? Probably the Wii, and the same goes for his wife and a lot of their friends out there.You can't use any subjective quality to determine an objective answerYou can. It's called a consensus.Bingo. And we reached the consensus years ago that the Wii sucked. I swear yall nintendo fans are like Bigfoot hunters. He doesn't exist, and the Wii isn't a good console. Just get over it already. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWYOFACEANDWOW 03/10/12 11:35:00 AM #115:	*Robazoid posted...* And how do you measure consensus? And don't BS me and say 'lololol already mentioned', take the two seconds to retype it. In my mind, sales are a pretty objective way to measure this sort of thing. Counterpoint me with something that won't differ depending on the opinion of one person to the next LMAO WHAT I almost dare I say it miss debating this with stifledsilence -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>SAWYOFACEANDWOW posted [p:890656] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...And how do you measure consensus? And don't BS me and say 'lololol already mentioned', take the two seconds to retype it.In my mind, sales are a pretty objective way to measure this sort of thing. Counterpoint me with something that won't differ depending on the opinion of one person to the nextLMAO WHATI almost dare I say it miss debating this with stifledsilence -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 03/10/12 11:37:00 AM #116:	I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile arguments Of course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day. -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:890657] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile argumentsOf course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day. -- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 03/10/12 11:38:00 AM #117:	From: GranzonEx \| #112 You can. It's called a consensus. A consensus is not objectivity wait why am i responding to this topic -- ICON: When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:890658] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: GranzonEx \| #112You can. It's called a consensus.A consensus is not objectivity wait why am i responding to this topic -- ICON:When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 11:48:00 AM #118:	high 5s everyone who said handhelds. And SHINE is right, and what I've been saying. Consoles wars are ending. The fact that this gen is already about 2 years longer (with no real end in site) than most gens is showing that. Portability is the key ingredient in today's age, and there is much more room for improvement with handheld technology than console technology right now. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890659] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> high 5s everyone who said handhelds.And SHINE is right, and what I've been saying. Consoles wars are ending. The fact that this gen is already about 2 years longer (with no real end in site) than most gens is showing that. Portability is the key ingredient in today's age, and there is much more room for improvement with handheld technology than console technology right now. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 11:51:00 AM #119:	People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well. who on earth says that about the PS2? Almost everyone i talk to says the PS2 is probably the best system of all time. Ahead of the SNES, PS1, NES, and any other popular system. I'll admit the XBOX might of innovated more with xbox live (and learned that people would pay monthly for online play....idiots), but the PS2's library is absurdly diverse. The only console that might have it beat with a specific genre is the XBOX and FPSs. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890660] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well.who on earth says that about the PS2? Almost everyone i talk to says the PS2 is probably the best system of all time. Ahead of the SNES, PS1, NES, and any other popular system.I'll admit the XBOX might of innovated more with xbox live (and learned that people would pay monthly for online play....idiots), but the PS2's library is absurdly diverse. The only console that might have it beat with a specific genre is the XBOX and FPSs. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/10/12 12:02:00 PM #120:	no real end in sight? there's a pretty real end - 360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks on it have already gone down. MS totally is gonna be talking about it at E3 to try to steal some of Nintendo's thunder. and console wars are far from over, they're just changing. gaming is instead of being a two-tier system starting to move to a one tier system, but we're still a good 2 gens away from that really coming true. and there are a lot of advancements to come still. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:890661] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> no real end in sight? there's a pretty real end - 360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks on it have already gone down. MS totally is gonna be talking about it at E3 to try to steal some of Nintendo's thunder. and console wars are far from over, they're just changing. gaming is instead of being a two-tier system starting to move to a one tier system, but we're still a good 2 gens away from that really coming true. and there are a lot of advancements to come still. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SAWYOFACEANDWOW 03/10/12 12:05:00 PM #121:	*Metal_DK posted...* People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well. who on earth says that about the PS2? Almost everyone i talk to says the PS2 is probably the best system of all time. Ahead of the SNES, PS1, NES, and any other popular system. I'll admit the XBOX might of innovated more with xbox live (and learned that people would pay monthly for online play....idiots), but the PS2's library is absurdly diverse. The only console that might have it beat with a specific genre is the XBOX and FPSs. Yeah I dunno what he was thinking when he posted that. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>SAWYOFACEANDWOW posted [p:890662] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Metal_DK posted...People now think that the PS2 sucks. Lots of people then thought so as well.who on earth says that about the PS2? Almost everyone i talk to says the PS2 is probably the best system of all time. Ahead of the SNES, PS1, NES, and any other popular system.I'll admit the XBOX might of innovated more with xbox live (and learned that people would pay monthly for online play....idiots), but the PS2's library is absurdly diverse. The only console that might have it beat with a specific genre is the XBOX and FPSs.Yeah I dunno what he was thinking when he posted that. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 03/10/12 12:08:00 PM #122:	PS3 won, and it's not even remotely close. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:890663] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> PS3 won, and it's not even remotely close. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 12:11:00 PM #123:	.no real end in sight? there's a pretty real end - 360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks on it have already gone down. MS totally is gonna be talking about it at E3 to try to steal some of Nintendo's thunder. and console wars are far from over, they're just changing. gaming is instead of being a two-tier system starting to move to a one tier system, but we're still a good 2 gens away from that really coming true. and there are a lot of advancements to come still. 360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks have already gone down? That doesn't scream "right around the corner". Furthermore it would be late 2013 if "next year" at this rate, which essentially is two years away. Meaning the 360's "lifespan" would be nov. 05 to around nov 13? 8 years for a console generation is really long. Console wars are ending. And i love the anecdotal "a good 2 gens away". There is more room for growth in portability right now. Thats the general trend for almost all technology. Desktop PCs are on their way out, or becoming niche again like in the days of the early to mid 80s. Tablets and smartphones are in. Its now about trying to have HD (or almost HD) graphics on a handheld, which you can then plug into a big screen TV. That's the future of "consoles" right now. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890664] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> .no real end in sight? there's a pretty real end - 360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks on it have already gone down. MS totally is gonna be talking about it at E3 to try to steal some of Nintendo's thunder.and console wars are far from over, they're just changing. gaming is instead of being a two-tier system starting to move to a one tier system, but we're still a good 2 gens away from that really coming true. and there are a lot of advancements to come still.360 probably gets a sequel next year and talks have already gone down? That doesn't scream "right around the corner". Furthermore it would be late 2013 if "next year" at this rate, which essentially is two years away. Meaning the 360's "lifespan" would be nov. 05 to around nov 13? 8 years for a console generation is really long.Console wars are ending. And i love the anecdotal "a good 2 gens away". There is more room for growth in portability right now. Thats the general trend for almost all technology. Desktop PCs are on their way out, or becoming niche again like in the days of the early to mid 80s. Tablets and smartphones are in. Its now about trying to have HD (or almost HD) graphics on a handheld, which you can then plug into a big screen TV. That's the future of "consoles" right now. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/10/12 12:17:00 PM #124:	'right around the corner' is the Wii U, this gen's sequel, which is basically 'E3 is going to be all about this.' after that the 360, after that the PS3. there's a difference between saying there's no end in sight and there being a clear ending but it's not next week or something. yes, this gen has gone quite long. sony wants their system to be 10 years legit time too. despite this, sales haven't dwindled in anything but the Wii really, and that one makes sense since damn near everyone has one already, the sequel's coming out, and the library's stagnated a lot. and there's more room for relative growth in handhelds sure, but in terms of actual growth consoles have that much, much higher. you're also way off base and wrong on desktops. sales are extremely good. there's a lot of that sentiment around so you aren't unique at it mind you, but every single time it gets brought up it gets shut down by the numbers. then it gets said again only to get shot down again. it's been the song and dance for the past couple years now. people just don't know WHERE the growth is going to happen exactly on the outside, but it's pretty clear what's going on internaly if you watch the industry a bit (e.g., graphics aren't going for something like HD or higher and higher resolutions, but what, specfically, can be done within those resolutions - content). -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:890665] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> 'right around the corner' is the Wii U, this gen's sequel, which is basically 'E3 is going to be all about this.' after that the 360, after that the PS3. there's a difference between saying there's no end in sight and there being a clear ending but it's not next week or something. yes, this gen has gone quite long. sony wants their system to be 10 years legit time too. despite this, sales haven't dwindled in anything but the Wii really, and that one makes sense since damn near everyone has one already, the sequel's coming out, and the library's stagnated a lot. and there's more room for relative growth in handhelds sure, but in terms of actual growth consoles have that much, much higher. you're also way off base and wrong on desktops. sales are extremely good. there's a lot of that sentiment around so you aren't unique at it mind you, but every single time it gets brought up it gets shut down by the numbers. then it gets said again only to get shot down again. it's been the song and dance for the past couple years now. people just don't know WHERE the growth is going to happen exactly on the outside, but it's pretty clear what's going on internaly if you watch the industry a bit (e.g., graphics aren't going for something like HD or higher and higher resolutions, but what, specfically, can be done within those resolutions - content). -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 12:24:00 PM #125:	'right around the corner' is the Wii U, this gen's sequel, which is basically 'E3 is going to be all about this.' after that the 360, after that the PS3. there's a difference between saying there's no end in sight and there being a clear ending but it's not next week or something. yes, this gen has gone quite long. sony wants their system to be 10 years legit time too. despite this, sales haven't dwindled in anything but the Wii really, and that one makes sense since damn near everyone has one already, the sequel's coming out, and the library's stagnated a lot. are you talking sales of consoles or sales of games? Because while sales of the 360 and ps3 appear to be ok right now, sales of games for all three systems are pretty poor. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890666] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> 'right around the corner' is the Wii U, this gen's sequel, which is basically 'E3 is going to be all about this.' after that the 360, after that the PS3. there's a difference between saying there's no end in sight and there being a clear ending but it's not next week or something. yes, this gen has gone quite long. sony wants their system to be 10 years legit time too. despite this, sales haven't dwindled in anything but the Wii really, and that one makes sense since damn near everyone has one already, the sequel's coming out, and the library's stagnated a lot. are you talking sales of consoles or sales of games? Because while sales of the 360 and ps3 appear to be ok right now, sales of games for all three systems are pretty poor. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 12:24:00 PM #126:	uh....it doesnt get shut down by the numbers. http://www.slashgear.com/as-desktop-pc-sales-decline-multiple-monitor-use-is-on-the-rise-08212610/ http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/desktop/229500573 http://www.crn.com/news/client-devices/229625512/tablet-pc-sales-cut-into-desktop-laptop-pc-sales-report.htm;jsessionid=tbDId0CxOVNjLjP4vyX9kA.ecappj03 http://gizmodo.com/5314521/desktop-pc-sales-decline-for-the-first-time-since-2001 edit: another good one http://reyt.net/pc-sales-declined-11-in-europe-in-the-third-quarter-of-2011/8338 -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890667] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> uh....it doesnt get shut down by the numbers.http://www.slashgear.com/as-desktop-pc-sales-decline-multiple-monitor-use-is-on-the-rise-08212610/http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/desktop/229500573http://www.crn.com/news/client-devices/229625512/tablet-pc-sales-cut-into-desktop-laptop-pc-sales-report.htm;jsessionid=tbDId0CxOVNjLjP4vyX9kA.ecappj03http://gizmodo.com/5314521/desktop-pc-sales-decline-for-the-first-time-since-2001edit: another good one http://reyt.net/pc-sales-declined-11-in-europe-in-the-third-quarter-of-2011/8338 -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 03/10/12 12:37:00 PM #127:	*Robazoid posted...* I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile arguments Of course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day. I am Vlado and you are Robazoid. Your point? And by "Sess was always like this" I guess you mean you are simply helpless to argue with someone who presents his point in a way that makes it so blatant for everyone that he's correct. And why should anyone have to retype anything? Just because you're too lazy to scroll a little doesn't mean we have to babysit you. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:890668] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Robazoid posted...I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile argumentsOf course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day.I am Vlado and you are Robazoid. Your point? And by "Sess was always like this" I guess you mean you are simply helpless to argue with someone who presents his point in a way that makes it so blatant for everyone that he's correct.And why should anyone have to retype anything? Just because you're too lazy to scroll a little doesn't mean we have to babysit you. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/10/12 12:43:00 PM #128:	1st link: talks about how monitor growth is happening right now, but doesn't have any numbers to back up 'desktop sales decline.' 2nd link: trying to further the belief that the two markets can't exist together and making assumptions off of that. 'one's sales are up and the other is slightly down so that MUST be why!' doesn't work by itself. 3rd link: shows a rise in some companies and a decline in others. i'll get to this in a few as to why the 'decline' isn't even something to be taken seriously. 4th link: 2009. meanwhile here's some things from 2010: http://hothardware.com/News/Desktop-Sales-Skyrocket-ASPs-Rise/ http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177304/Laptop_sales_up_by_43_in_Q1_says_Gartner http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/20/technology/desktop_PC_death/index.htm (note that there's some projection here and the later years obviously can't be estimated properly right now). http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/PC-Sales-Grew-in-Q3-Despite-Worries-iSuppli-163158/ further, 2011 was plagued with all kinds of shortages in components. this didnt' help any of them, between the floodings in thailand killing HDD prices and microprocessors just not having enough supply to match the demand. those problems are over for the most part and 2012 will show it. hard. what we do know however, thus far, within the past 6 months? - monitor sales are up. - NVIDIA had their desktop GPU sales go up by over 20% in November 2011. - despite the market shortages, AMD has had growth happen in the laptop market for itself and in general, with much more on the way in this field. APUs are the future for it. desktops aren't dying off anytime soon, but damned if people won't yell it. yes, the market share is going down, but that doesn't mean growth isn't happening. growth is up in multiple fields regarding desktops. laptop sales are up as well, with AMD having a huge growth spurt happen compared to where they were before and it'll continue that way. seriously, i don't think i'll ever understand the notion that tablets will replace desktops when laptops couldn't either. at the end you know why desktop sales will gradually drop? because everyone has one. and then they'll upgrade parts. then desktops again later. laptops and tablets have a closer field, but the one to be phased out there isn't laptops - it's tablets. they're the ones stuck in the bad position. phones are growing in size and feel with 4.3" being an actual STANDARD now, and having larger phones consistently being made by the major non-apple manufactuers (HTC, Samsung, half a dozen chinese companies that have phones we might actually start getting) as well. asus has the right idea with the transformer and their phone too - we're going to have tablets and phones that will be able to double as a laptop... eventually. it'll be a merger of the markets, not cannibalization, that settles it. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:890669] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> 1st link: talks about how monitor growth is happening right now, but doesn't have any numbers to back up 'desktop sales decline.'2nd link: trying to further the belief that the two markets can't exist together and making assumptions off of that. 'one's sales are up and the other is slightly down so that MUST be why!' doesn't work by itself. 3rd link: shows a rise in some companies and a decline in others. i'll get to this in a few as to why the 'decline' isn't even something to be taken seriously. 4th link: 2009. meanwhile here's some things from 2010:http://hothardware.com/News/Desktop-Sales-Skyrocket-ASPs-Rise/http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177304/Laptop_sales_up_by_43_in_Q1_says_Gartnerhttp://money.cnn.com/2010/07/20/technology/desktop_PC_death/index.htm (note that there's some projection here and the later years obviously can't be estimated properly right now). http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/PC-Sales-Grew-in-Q3-Despite-Worries-iSuppli-163158/further, 2011 was plagued with all kinds of shortages in components. this didnt' help any of them, between the floodings in thailand killing HDD prices and microprocessors just not having enough supply to match the demand. those problems are over for the most part and 2012 will show it. hard. what we do know however, thus far, within the past 6 months?- monitor sales are up. - NVIDIA had their desktop GPU sales go up by over 20% in November 2011. - despite the market shortages, AMD has had growth happen in the laptop market for itself and in general, with much more on the way in this field. APUs are the future for it. desktops aren't dying off anytime soon, but damned if people won't yell it. yes, the market share is going down, but that doesn't mean growth isn't happening. growth is up in multiple fields regarding desktops. laptop sales are up as well, with AMD having a huge growth spurt happen compared to where they were before and it'll continue that way. seriously, i don't think i'll ever understand the notion that tablets will replace desktops when laptops couldn't either. at the end you know why desktop sales will gradually drop? because everyone has one. and then they'll upgrade parts. then desktops again later. laptops and tablets have a closer field, but the one to be phased out there isn't laptops - it's tablets. they're the ones stuck in the bad position. phones are growing in size and feel with 4.3" being an actual STANDARD now, and having larger phones consistently being made by the major non-apple manufactuers (HTC, Samsung, half a dozen chinese companies that have phones we might actually start getting) as well. asus has the right idea with the transformer and their phone too - we're going to have tablets and phones that will be able to double as a laptop... eventually. it'll be a merger of the markets, not cannibalization, that settles it. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/10/12 12:45:00 PM #129:	...also your edited link is actually a pretty bad one. 1) it makes the same logical mistake of not believing the two markets can co-exist. 2) it talks about how SHIPMENTS have declined. which yes, makes sense because Q3 and Q4 of 2011 had horrible shortages occur. so shipments would decline. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:890670] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> ...also your edited link is actually a pretty bad one.1) it makes the same logical mistake of not believing the two markets can co-exist. 2) it talks about how SHIPMENTS have declined. which yes, makes sense because Q3 and Q4 of 2011 had horrible shortages occur. so shipments would decline. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 12:49:00 PM #130:	*Vlado posted...* Robazoid posted... I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile arguments Of course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day. I am Vlado and you are Robazoid. Your point? And by "Sess was always like this" I guess you mean you are simply helpless to argue with someone who presents his point in a way that makes it so blatant for everyone that he's correct. And why should anyone have to retype anything? Just because you're too lazy to scroll a little doesn't mean we have to babysit you. Dude don't bother. I don't remember Robazoid being a slave to NintendroneB8faqs but apparently that is his deal these days. I already laid down the law regarding what it means to win a console war in the eyes of gamers. I already laid down the law regarding why Wii fans are so insistent that they "won" this gen. If people don't want to listen to reason, they aren't going to. Period. A couple people in this topic, like MWC (I'm assuming he went to watch the kentucky game), seemed open to some rational discussion, but apart from that its just the usual nintendo defense force (GMUN, stifled, etc). Nothing is gained from having a debate with them, and nothing is gained from winning a debate with them. They're minds cannot be changed due to their blind nostalgia for their childhoods. Arguing that the Wii "won" this gen is just a manifestation of this delusion. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890671] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Vlado posted...Robazoid posted...I've already decided to stop responding to Sess and Vlado because Sess was always like this and I know not to take it seriously and Vlado is Vlado, but this other guy I don't really know might actually be serious and I'm hoping he's got some sort of worthwhile argumentsOf course, in the time I took to post this, for all I know he responded to me with 'lol wow read the topic I won't retype anything' instead of just retyping it, and then I'll be able to discount him as well and get on with my day.I am Vlado and you are Robazoid. Your point? And by "Sess was always like this" I guess you mean you are simply helpless to argue with someone who presents his point in a way that makes it so blatant for everyone that he's correct.And why should anyone have to retype anything? Just because you're too lazy to scroll a little doesn't mean we have to babysit you.Dude don't bother. I don't remember Robazoid being a slave to NintendroneB8faqs but apparently that is his deal these days. I already laid down the law regarding what it means to win a console war in the eyes of gamers. I already laid down the law regarding why Wii fans are so insistent that they "won" this gen. If people don't want to listen to reason, they aren't going to. Period. A couple people in this topic, like MWC (I'm assuming he went to watch the kentucky game), seemed open to some rational discussion, but apart from that its just the usual nintendo defense force (GMUN, stifled, etc). Nothing is gained from having a debate with them, and nothing is gained from winning a debate with them. They're minds cannot be changed due to their blind nostalgia for their childhoods. Arguing that the Wii "won" this gen is just a manifestation of this delusion. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 03/10/12 1:03:00 PM #131:	so basically you think all markets can co-exist? Assuming that is just as bad as assuming markets can't exist. But let me guess, you think smartphones and tablets haven't taken anything away from handhelds? Also your links are pretty poor. first link: Im not going to say "nothing can cause a bounce back in desktop sales". Windows 7 certainly did that in 2009. But look at windows 8, how its going to be essentially a smartphone interface, and tell me that will cause a bounce back like windows 7 did. Microsoft is pretty much abandoning desktops with products like windows 8 2nd link: says nothing of desktops. Laptops =/= desktops 3rd link: "note that there's some projection here and the later years obviously can't be estimated properly right now). " Why can't they be estimated properly right now? What is so different about using statistics now then in 1928, 1945, 1993, 2002? Why are these specific years too complex or what not? 4th link: It says business demand created a desktop improvement. I'll agree that desktops will remain important in business for a while. I was speaking more along the lines of home and entertainment use. Business use is a completely different thing. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:890672] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> so basically you think all markets can co-exist? Assuming that is just as bad as assuming markets can't exist.But let me guess, you think smartphones and tablets haven't taken anything away from handhelds? Also your links are pretty poor.first link: Im not going to say "nothing can cause a bounce back in desktop sales". Windows 7 certainly did that in 2009. But look at windows 8, how its going to be essentially a smartphone interface, and tell me that will cause a bounce back like windows 7 did. Microsoft is pretty much abandoning desktops with products like windows 82nd link: says nothing of desktops. Laptops =/= desktops3rd link: "note that there's some projection here and the later years obviously can't be estimated properly right now). " Why can't they be estimated properly right now? What is so different about using statistics now then in 1928, 1945, 1993, 2002? Why are these specific years too complex or what not?4th link: It says business demand created a desktop improvement. I'll agree that desktops will remain important in business for a while. I was speaking more along the lines of home and entertainment use. Business use is a completely different thing. -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JJH777 03/10/12 1:31:00 PM #132:	Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. <cite>JJH777 posted [p:890673] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - ArtosisCongratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 2:43:00 PM #133:	*JJH777 posted...* Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. This is what insanity looks like. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890674] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> JJH777 posted...Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC.This is what insanity looks like. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JJH777 03/10/12 3:13:00 PM #134:	From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133 *JJH777 posted...* Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. This is what insanity looks like. Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. <cite>JJH777 posted [p:890675] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133JJH777 posted...Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC.This is what insanity looks like.Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - ArtosisCongratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 3:18:00 PM #135:	*JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133 JJH777 posted... Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. This is what insanity looks like. Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc. I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890676] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133JJH777 posted...Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC.This is what insanity looks like.Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc.I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JJH777 03/10/12 3:20:00 PM #136:	From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #135 *JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133 JJH777 posted... Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. This is what insanity looks like. Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc. I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically. It is the best console for a PC gamer. It's the only one that's actually worth buying. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. <cite>JJH777 posted [p:890677] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #135JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133JJH777 posted...Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC.This is what insanity looks like.Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc.I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically.It is the best console for a PC gamer. It's the only one that's actually worth buying. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - ArtosisCongratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 3:21:00 PM #137:	*JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #135 JJH777 posted... From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133 JJH777 posted... Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC. This is what insanity looks like. Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc. I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically. It is the best console for a PC gamer. It's the only one that's actually worth buying. Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890678] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #135JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #133JJH777 posted...Wii is the best because it's the only console with more than like 2 or 3 good titles that the PC doesn't have and every game that is on both PC and consoles is superior on PC.This is what insanity looks like.Everything I said is a fact. 99% of the 360/PS3 libraries are on PC as well. Games are objectively better on PC. You get more control choices, better graphics, mods, free online, etc.I love PC dude, but you literally called the Wii the best console unironically.It is the best console for a PC gamer. It's the only one that's actually worth buying.Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JJH777 03/10/12 3:24:00 PM #138:	From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137 Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. <cite>JJH777 posted [p:890679] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though.Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - ArtosisCongratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 03/10/12 3:25:00 PM #139:	Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:890680] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeepsPraw 03/10/12 3:27:00 PM #140:	PC is great because the games are the cheapest, if you get what I'm saying. But to say that 99% of console games are on PC is a lie. No Platinum Games, no From Software. No Metal Gear HD or SOTC/ICO HD remasters. -- oh yeah. i am a dog. i smoke cigarettes and vote democratic because i am classy - the dog http://i.imgur.com/x4Tma.jpg <cite>DeepsPraw posted [p:890681] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> PC is great because the games are the cheapest, if you get what I'm saying.But to say that 99% of console games are on PC is a lie. No Platinum Games, no From Software. No Metal Gear HD or SOTC/ICO HD remasters. -- oh yeah. i am a dog. i smoke cigarettes and vote democratic because i am classy - the doghttp://i.imgur.com/x4Tma.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 3:27:00 PM #141:	*JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137 Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles. We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890682] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though.Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles.We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 03/10/12 3:28:00 PM #142:	I'm personally not a fan of the Wii, but a console that managed to be so wide spread that it somehow turned my grandmother into a gamer is definitely the winner this generation. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:890683] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> I'm personally not a fan of the Wii, but a console that managed to be so wide spread that it somehow turned my grandmother into a gamer is definitely the winner this generation. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JJH777 03/10/12 3:34:00 PM #143:	From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #141 *JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137 Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles. We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though. Then why did you say we aren't arguing from a certain demographic? The ONLY way 360/PS3 could be considered the "winner" is arguing from a certain demographic. From: Vlado \| #139 Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii. So you bought it for one game? If that's fine for you then cool but I don't really buy consoles unless there's going to be like 15-20 games I want to play. For me the PS3 has MGS4, Uncharted series, and God of War 3. Everything else is on PC as well or looks like it's going to be in the future. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis Congratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. <cite>JJH777 posted [p:890684] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #141JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though.Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles.We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though.Then why did you say we aren't arguing from a certain demographic? The ONLY way 360/PS3 could be considered the "winner" is arguing from a certain demographic.From: Vlado \| #139Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii.So you bought it for one game? If that's fine for you then cool but I don't really buy consoles unless there's going to be like 15-20 games I want to play. For me the PS3 has MGS4, Uncharted series, and God of War 3. Everything else is on PC as well or looks like it's going to be in the future. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - ArtosisCongratulations to SuperNiceDog for winning the 2011 Guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 03/10/12 3:35:00 PM #144:	Personally, I don't like the Wii as a system, but it does have a strong library of exclusives that I'd miss out on if I didn't buy it. It's a perfect complimentary system, to be honest. Wii60 or PSWii works out very nicely. Personally I went with PSWii60 so I wasn't limited in terms of what I could buy. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:890685] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Personally, I don't like the Wii as a system, but it does have a strong library of exclusives that I'd miss out on if I didn't buy it. It's a perfect complimentary system, to be honest. Wii60 or PSWii works out very nicely.Personally I went with PSWii60 so I wasn't limited in terms of what I could buy. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man."You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 3:36:00 PM #145:	*JJH777 posted...* From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #141 JJH777 posted... From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137 Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though. Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles. We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though. Then why did you say we aren't arguing from a certain demographic? The ONLY way 360/PS3 could be considered the "winner" is arguing from a certain demographic. From: Vlado \| #139 Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii. So you bought it for one game? If that's fine for you then cool but I don't really buy consoles unless there's going to be like 15-20 games I want to play. For me the PS3 has MGS4, Uncharted series, and God of War 3. Everything else is on PC as well or looks like it's going to be in the future. I was just letting you know what we had already done. But the discussion is over. Wii "won" on sales, PS3/360 won on overall gaming experience which is what truly matters to video game fans, and the handhelds were probably your true "Winner" this gen. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890686] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #141JJH777 posted...From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #137Alright man I'm not gonna knock that viewpoint or anything but we're talkin about from an overall perspective, not just a certain demographic. That's cool though.Overall it's obviously Wii as well though. You are either looking at it from your viewpoint or Wii wins since it has sold almost twice either of the other consoles.We already discussed the whole sales issue. We have already had this entire argument. It's over. If you wanna debate it go do it in another topic, but its been settled here. Thanks for coming out though.Then why did you say we aren't arguing from a certain demographic? The ONLY way 360/PS3 could be considered the "winner" is arguing from a certain demographic.From: Vlado \| #139Um, as a PC gamer, I bought a PS3. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not on Wii.So you bought it for one game? If that's fine for you then cool but I don't really buy consoles unless there's going to be like 15-20 games I want to play. For me the PS3 has MGS4, Uncharted series, and God of War 3. Everything else is on PC as well or looks like it's going to be in the future.I was just letting you know what we had already done. But the discussion is over. Wii "won" on sales, PS3/360 won on overall gaming experience which is what truly matters to video game fans, and the handhelds were probably your true "Winner" this gen. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MMMMAYBACHMUSIC 03/10/12 3:38:00 PM #146:	Rock that's honestly the best description I've heard for a Wii: a complimentary system. It's nice to have for brawl, galaxy, etc....but for it to be your main system is a joke. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! <cite>MMMMAYBACHMUSIC posted [p:890687] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> Rock that's honestly the best description I've heard for a Wii: a complimentary system. It's nice to have for brawl, galaxy, etc....but for it to be your main system is a joke. -- sess back...somebody call the brinks truck! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veola 03/10/12 3:54:00 PM #147:	All these wall-o-texts. All these articles. And this is all that matters: Seriously, guys. What the heck. The only argument to the contrary is "That doesn't count because I don't want it to." <cite>Veola posted [p:890688] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> All these wall-o-texts.All these articles.And this is all that matters:Seriously, guys. What the heck. The only argument to the contrary is "That doesn't count because I don't want it to." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJH 03/10/12 5:11:00 PM #148:	boooooring -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - Beruga Brawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 <cite>KJH posted [p:890689] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> boooooring -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - BerugaBrawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ayuyu 03/10/12 5:14:00 PM #149:	From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #146 Rock that's honestly the best description I've heard for a Wii: a complimentary system. It's nice to have for brawl, galaxy, etc....but for it to be your main system is a joke. Depends on who your friends are I guess. I mean if my friends weren't all casuals my Wii wouldn't be my main system, but now it is. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic <cite>Ayuyu posted [p:890690] in So can we ... [t:62198521]...</cite> <quote> From: MMMMAYBACHMUSIC \| #146Rock that's honestly the best description I've heard for a Wii: a complimentary system. It's nice to have for brawl, galaxy, etc....but for it to be your main system is a joke.Depends on who your friends are I guess.I mean if my friends weren't all casuals my Wii wouldn't be my main system, but now it is. -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gifhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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