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Forceful_Dragon
03/08/12 7:26:00 PM
#301:


Game 3 starting, Malz and Singed gogo!

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SpikeDragon
03/08/12 8:35:00 PM
#302:


I had some really good games with realo and Daranix today. 3-1, including two games as Kog'Maw (22/0/6 and 19/4/9). Wanted to end on a good note for once, so I stopped after that second game. It was fun, guys!

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Forceful_Dragon
03/08/12 9:08:00 PM
#303:


Red/FD off to an amazing 0-4 start.


Loss ~ Dr. Mundo ~ 1-4-2 (0.75) [-12] 1730 [45]
Loss ~ Singed ~ 4-6-8 (2.00) [-13] 1717 [45]
Loss ~ Singed ~ 1-8-3 (0.50) [-13] 1704 [34]
Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 4-6-12 (2.67) [-12] 1692 [45]


I will grant that I got caught for first blood in game 3 and then enemy riven (who got the first blood) did a number on me top for the first 5 minutes.

But then I stopped dying until the end of the game and the only reason we lost was because our LS gave up.

But my mundo game was fine, and games 2/4 were more than fine. it's just one of those nights so far.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/08/12 9:11:00 PM
#304:


Game 5 coming soon btw

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Forceful_Dragon
03/08/12 11:20:00 PM
#305:


Red + FD epic trainwreck continues.

Come laugh at us? =P

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Lopen
03/08/12 11:28:00 PM
#306:


You got it, bud

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SovietGwindor
03/09/12 12:11:00 AM
#307:


time to watch the Intel Extreme Masters

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 12:21:00 AM
#308:


I understand standard variance and I know we'll be back above 1700 within an week but it is impossible NOT to feel like S*** after a night like this:


Loss ~ Dr. Mundo ~ 1-4-2 (0.75) [-12] 1730 [45]
Loss ~ Singed ~ 4-6-8 (2.00) [-13] 1717 [45]
Loss ~ Singed ~ 1-8-3 (0.50) [-13] 1704 [34]
Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 4-6-12 (2.67) [-12] 1692 [45]
Loss ~ Fiddlesticks ~ 1-6-3 (0.67) [-13] 1679 [45]
Win ~ Nautilus ~ 5-4-13 (4.50) [+13] 1692 [35]
Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 0-5-5 (1.00) [-12] 1680 [34]
Loss ~ Udyr ~ 1-5-4 (1.00) [-13] 1667 [45]

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Lopen
03/09/12 12:27:00 AM
#309:


Trainwreck delivered. Only caught most of the last one after promises of blood. Was glad to hear red randomed Jax cause there were times that game where I was like "is this Kanz's Jax." I was guessing it was him being really rattled (some of it probably was, to be fair) at the time, but... yeah, good to know it was more than that.

Better luck tomorrow I guess

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 12:32:00 AM
#310:


red doesn't know what to do when he is forced to top lane.

I keep telling him to put a legit teemo page together to fall back on. Worth a shot imo.

A few of the games were unwinnable but we could honestly have gone 4-4 so easily we were handily winning in 3 of our losses.

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OctilIery
03/09/12 12:32:00 AM
#311:


I think we all feel for you FD. Better luck tomorrow <3

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 12:32:00 AM
#312:


Yeah, we'll be back on track on no time. Just an annoying setback, lol.

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OctilIery
03/09/12 12:57:00 AM
#313:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yeah, we'll be back on track on no time. Just an annoying setback, lol.

Gotta say, you're a better player than me not just skill wise but in how well you can roll with the punches, and you get respect for that. Even though I don't play you're fun to watch because you're usually so damned positive XD

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Silver_Ermine
03/09/12 1:31:00 AM
#314:


OctilIery posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yeah, we'll be back on track on no time. Just an annoying setback, lol.

Gotta say, you're a better player than me not just skill wise but in how well you can roll with the punches, and you get respect for that. Even though I don't play you're fun to watch because you're usually so damned positive XD


My favorite part is when FD says "Piece of crap"

I always smile, unless he says it after getting me and him killed and giving GP red buff vs me.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 3:29:00 AM
#315:


Pssh, that never happens.

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KamikazePotato
03/09/12 12:14:00 PM
#316:


I can't stand top lane. Have no idea what to do with it. With me it's Jungle=AD Carry Bot>Mid>>>>Top.

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red13n
03/09/12 12:19:00 PM
#317:


Trainwreck delivered. Only caught most of the last one after promises of blood. Was glad to hear red randomed Jax cause there were times that game where I was like "is this Kanz's Jax." I was guessing it was him being really rattled (some of it probably was, to be fair) at the time, but... yeah, good to know it was more than that.


I hadnt played Jax since old Jax. And holy hell does new Jax sucks.

For one, hes squishy as all hell. All his tankiness that made old jax work is gone. 2 seconds of dodge would be great...except you need to activate that before jumping in to actually hit the stun he needs to be useful at all. So now not only do casters chew him up, but enemy AD carries chew him up.

The CD is also way too high at lvl 1(It scales down nicely, but you have to sacrifice empower/leap strike to do so).

They just messed him up so badly.

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OctilIery
03/09/12 12:27:00 PM
#318:


red13n posted...
Trainwreck delivered. Only caught most of the last one after promises of blood. Was glad to hear red randomed Jax cause there were times that game where I was like "is this Kanz's Jax." I was guessing it was him being really rattled (some of it probably was, to be fair) at the time, but... yeah, good to know it was more than that.


I hadnt played Jax since old Jax. And holy hell does new Jax sucks.

For one, hes squishy as all hell. All his tankiness that made old jax work is gone. 2 seconds of dodge would be great...except you need to activate that before jumping in to actually hit the stun he needs to be useful at all. So now not only do casters chew him up, but enemy AD carries chew him up.

The CD is also way too high at lvl 1(It scales down nicely, but you have to sacrifice empower/leap strike to do so).

They just messed him up so badly.


Riot botching a remake? *gasp*

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Megaman703
03/09/12 2:33:00 PM
#319:


Just got a pentakill in ranked.

Damn that felt amazing.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/09/12 2:55:00 PM
#320:


Megaman703 posted...
Just got a pentakill in ranked.

Damn that felt amazing.


I've been cheated out of a pentakill in ranked before. Ally threw out an unnecessary ult. Made me sad.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 5:11:00 PM
#321:


Red/FD DuoQ Time:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n


Can we rebuild the train and try again?

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OctilIery
03/09/12 5:53:00 PM
#322:


Well the train's back up :/

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KommunistKoala
03/09/12 5:56:00 PM
#323:


How the **** do you stop wukong from becoming an unkillable monster

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 5:58:00 PM
#324:


From: OctilIery | #322
Well the train's back up :/


eh 0-1 is not a train yet. Once we're -3 games it'll feel like it though.

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Biolizard28
03/09/12 6:01:00 PM
#325:


From: KommunistKoala | #323
How the **** do you stop wukong from becoming an unkillable monster


Sustain is key. Wukong is pretty silly in lane, but the ability to heal back or even win trades goes a long way. Lee Sin in particular gives him trouble because he builds bulky anyway and has stealth detection in his kit.

Of course, you can't stop him from farming forever.

Frankly, I don't understand why Wukong is so underplayed.

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Lopen
03/09/12 6:02:00 PM
#326:


Lee Sin is a problem for everyone because he's Lee Sin

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 6:02:00 PM
#327:


Q'd up for game 2.

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Lopen
03/09/12 6:10:00 PM
#328:


Seriously speaking though why is Lee Sin so seldom banned. I'd think with 6 bans he'd be a priority more often. I mean I keep seeing Shaco banned and I'm not sure why-- was he buffed recently or something.

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Aecioo
03/09/12 6:13:00 PM
#329:


Lopen posted...
Seriously speaking though why is Lee Sin so seldom banned. I'd think with 6 bans he'd be a priority more often. I mean I keep seeing Shaco banned and I'm not sure why-- was he buffed recently or something.

Shaco is just annoying as **** to play against and absolutely punishes bad players.

Hell, that's what most of the bans are for. Morgana punishes bad people with her ult and laning, shaco does it, rammus does it with his super fast ganks to rape people that don't ward and back well, etc.

It's not that they're super strong (I mean, they are, but not hilariously strong and shouldn't be played), it's that they stomp all over bad plays. You can be bad with Morgana and still be very useful to your team just by flashing into the enemy team and pressing R. Just like you can be shaco and get super powerful ganks just by dropping your box and hitting them.

plus shaco makes the game not fun by making you play passive and/or buying an insane amount of wards for all lanes, so...

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Aecioo
03/09/12 6:15:00 PM
#330:


Also yeah if I'd say a champ should be banned just on their merits alone, Lee Sin would be at the top of that list.

He just doesn't pubstomp idiots as hard when played by a mediocre player like Shaco can pubstomp when played by a mediocre player.

if that makes sense.

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TheConductorSix
03/09/12 6:20:00 PM
#331:


Wukong is countered by Ninja Tabi.

Soooo....that's probably why he's not played so much.

If you fight him early game without any sustain or armor then yeah you're going to die. His burst is stupid high.

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KommunistKoala
03/09/12 6:20:00 PM
#332:


From: Biolizard28 | #1605
Sustain is key. Wukong is pretty silly in lane, but the ability to heal back or even win trades goes a long way. Lee Sin in particular gives him trouble because he builds bulky anyway and has stealth detection in his kit.

Of course, you can't stop him from farming forever.

Frankly, I don't understand why Wukong is so underplayed.


I was GP and maxed oranges, so I wasn't having any problems myself. We were both just farming. Once he got wriggles though, there was nothing I could do to him. Having an awful Shyv jungler didn't help but I digress.

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KommunistKoala
03/09/12 6:24:00 PM
#333:


I suppose he's not much different from most top lanes though in retrospect.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 6:52:00 PM
#334:


Step 1) Make sure your team is winning the game very easily!
Check.

Step 2) Get a riven who is bugged and and can't cast spells.
Check...

Step 3) We tell riven she needs to die to fix it, but say "not yet, it will give up baron"
Double check (red and I both said this)

Step 4) Riven compromises and goes and dies TO BARON by HERSELF. Enemy gets baron and proceeds to comeback handily.
CHECK



0-2 so far tonight. Train wreck 2.0 is building, come watch? lol

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Lopen
03/09/12 6:55:00 PM
#335:


Yeah I think you guys might've lost anyway cause their lategame teamcomp was a good amount better but as long as you'd guys had kept cutting the map off like you were you should've had it. Shame about the dumbass Riven.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 6:57:00 PM
#336:


time to carry rammus, we GOT this game.

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TheConductorSix
03/09/12 7:25:00 PM
#337:


first problem was maxing oranges.

max Q. Start cloth and 5 pots. just last hit. when he attacks you, Press Q, slow him, and run around minions. They'll make him pay for early aggression.

Once you come back with Tabi and pots just Q him every so often.

Your auto attacks win out over his thanks to the chain slow and damage and E.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 7:36:00 PM
#338:


0-3 so far. going to take a break to try a game ermine wants us to play. Tibia or something.

Loss ~ Maokai ~ 1-7-10 (1.57) [-12] 1655 [34]
Loss ~ Dr. Mundo ~ 2-4-8 (2.50) [-12] 1643 [45]
Loss ~ Rammus ~ 3-7-8 (1.57) [-13] 1630 [45]

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Forceful_Dragon
03/09/12 8:18:00 PM
#339:


so I guess red is streaming tibia while we try it out.

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Chaotic Mind
03/09/12 8:32:00 PM
#340:


Lol Tibia. I used to play that, years ago.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/10/12 1:34:00 AM
#341:


5-5 today, +1 ELO


Loss ~ Maokai ~ 1-7-10 (1.57) [-12] 1655 [34]
Loss ~ Dr. Mundo ~ 2-4-8 (2.50) [-12] 1643 [45]
Loss ~ Rammus ~ 3-7-8 (1.57) [-13] 1630 [45]
Win ~ Nunu ~ 1-5-19 (4.00) [+12] 1642 [45]
Win ~ Maokai ~ 3-4-7 (2.50) [+12] 1654 [45]
Loss ~ Nautilus ~ 0-3-2 (0.67) [-12] 1642 [34]
Loss ~ Maokai ~ 1-8-8 (1.13) [-13] 1629 [45]
Win ~ Shyvana ~ 6-5-7 (2.60) [+13] 1642 [13]
Win ~ Lee Sin ~ 2-1-11 (13.00) [+13] 1655 [45]
Win ~ Dr. Mundo ~ 3-2-6 (4.50) [+13] 1668 [35]


We played tibia for an hour after starting 0-3 and realized that life is too short to waste it playing Tibia.


(Although from how they describe it Tibia would have been a lot more fun without the tutorial because we all would have died a bunch)

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Silver_Ermine
03/10/12 1:46:00 AM
#342:


Tutorial is short you guys are just impatient and slow. Whatever I'll just play Wakfu by myself.

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Gwindor
03/10/12 5:39:00 AM
#343:


IEM finals starting in a few minutes.

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SpeedYoshi
03/10/12 6:47:00 AM
#344:


link?

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Gwindor
03/10/12 6:57:00 AM
#345:


http://iemhanover.leagueoflegends.com/

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Biolizard28
03/10/12 7:16:00 AM
#346:


Turned stream off.

I don't like watching people who we know for a fact are the sorest losers on the planet be endlessly praised on stream.

Not even joking. It irritates me.

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Biolizard28
03/10/12 7:28:00 AM
#347:


Also, if M5 wins this, I can pretty much guarantee that the roam meta will be getting another look.

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Gwindor
03/10/12 7:34:00 AM
#348:


I'd just like to point out that I said roaming would be back after the Soraka and Sona nerfs. They were the only reason resources had to be tied to bottom lane.

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Biolizard28
03/10/12 7:48:00 AM
#349:


Frankly we should have seen this coming earlier with the shift towards counter jungling.

Map control is far too important these days.

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Gwindor
03/10/12 8:16:00 AM
#350:


well that was really boring.

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