Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 37 - "Others try. I succeed."

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 11:42:00 AM
#1:


What is League of Legends?
League of Legends is a team game very similar to the WarCraft 3 custom map DotA. There are two bases, one on either side of the map and several "lanes" between the bases along which AI controlled units spawn. An overhead view of the 5v5 map looks about like this:
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There is a base in the bottom left, and a base in the top right. 3 lanes connect the two bases and every 30 seconds AI controlled "minions" spawn in each lane. Everyone who is in the game controls 1 "champion" unit and your job as a team is to push your lanes and destroy the opposing base. The lanes are protected by turrets and so you need your own minions along side you to be able to kill the turrets without getting targeted by them. 2 bases, 3 lanes, 5 players per team. There is also The Crystal Scar, the map currently used for the Dominion game mode. The Dominion overhead view looks like this:

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What are Champions?
Champions are the powerful units that you get to control. You pick 1 before the map loads and that is the champion you will use for that match. Champions start each match at level 1 their max level is 18. The important thing to consider is the stats of the champion you select will be affected by the level of your account.

What do 'account-levels' have to do with anything?
When you create an account you have a level 1 account. That is called your 'Summoner Level'. You are the summoner, and the champion you select for the match is the 'summoned'. You increase your summoner level by playing matches. Every match you play will earn you XP and IP. Earning enough XP will increase your summoner level with the max level being 30. Wins are worth more XP/IP than losses, so try to win. Your summoner level also determines:
(1) How many runes you can slot and
(2) How many mastery points you can allot

If you are low leveled still and playing by yourself then the game will try and pair you against similarly leveled opponents, but if you are playing with higher leveled friends then it will seek higher leveled opponents. Just something to consider when you start learning how to play.

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 11:43:00 AM
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What is IP again?
IP is the other kind of points you earn when you play matches. You earn both XP and IP and IP are the points that you use to purchase runes and champions. Yes, that’s right, you have to "buy" the champions, but you get the points for free so its not a bad deal. (You can also spend real money on champion packs if you would rather not take the time to earn them) The point is that you get the IP for free so you should figure out which champions you are good with and spend it on those. When you buy a champion you will have it unlocked on your account forever. And if you don't buy ANY champions, you will still have access to 10 of them. Every week there are 10 "free" champions. But they are only free for the week and 10 different champions will be free the next week. And so if you are level 1 you still have 10 champions available to you and so try them out, figure out which one you might like to spend points on and then buy it.

And so IP is good for Champions and Runes. You can also spend *real money* to unlock champions but you can NOT unlock runes with real money, only IP and so runes have to be earned.

To sum up:
You have an account that goes up to level 30 (this is your summoner level)
You earn XP (to level up the account) and IP (to buy champions/runes) every time you play a match
You have rune pages (with up to 30 slots)
You have a mastery page to spec (with up to 30 points) (and you can respec as much as you want)

This is probably a bit over-kill and so if something doesn’t quite make sense just ask and someone will clarify. And if you are going to start playing please post:
(1) Your GameFAQs name
(2) Your Summoner name (this is different than your log-in name)
(3) Your preferred champions. It’s just nice to know which champions people prefer to play or use the most.

And please BOLD THE INFORMATION so we will see it and update the list accordingly. Or, you know, add it yourself.

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 11:48:00 AM
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Player List: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends

Remember: If you wish to see your player information updated, please bold the information so we will see it.

News of the Patch:
- Dunk Mistress Fiora has arrived. How's everyone doing with that?
- Please do not feed the berserker.
- Fizz buffs, what is this.


The list of titles we have used:

Others try. I succeed.
You are in the deep end now!
This'll be a blast!
Next time, try to leave a dent.
You wanna play too? That'll be fun!
Hm, I suppose you were expecting an unbearable pun?
I love it when a plan comes together!
They have faced nothing like me.
I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be.
This is no challenge.
Learn from your mistakes.
Demacia. Now and Forever.
It is never ending.
Never underestimate the power of the Scout's code.
Our rage is beyond your control!
Ahhh... You sure you're not in the wrong league?
Die first, then we'll talk.
Do you wanna play? It'll be fun.
Take a good look. It's the last you're going to get!
If you want me to hit you less, die sooner.
Time To Feast!
Mundo's ABC's of success: Always Be Cleaving
Who wants a piece of the champ?!
C'mon, I'm not even holding the controls!
Only two jokers in the deck and I got dealt you.
Time to Feed!
Guess what's about to hit the fan.
I'm OP? Your MOM is OP!

You may post now!

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HanOfTheNekos
03/02/12 12:30:00 PM
#4:


0-5

Not playing with Kyle again.

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KamikazePotato
03/02/12 12:33:00 PM
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Fiora is fun. Unfortunately top lane is still by far my worst lane and I tend to feed when I go there, but she's fun.

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The Real Truth
03/02/12 12:37:00 PM
#6:


I'm just curious about how many LoL players in this topic have played Dota.

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Aecioo
03/02/12 12:37:00 PM
#7:


The Real Truth posted...
I'm just curious about how many LoL players in this topic have played Dota.

oh me pick me

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The Real Truth
03/02/12 12:46:00 PM
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From: Aecioo | #007
oh me pick me


I'm just genuinely curious. This topic gets (from what I can tell) a lot of attention, while the Dota topic gets barely any. Maybe it's because it's only in beta format now. I know FFD used to play a ton of Dota. I think there was something he really disliked about the game.

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KommunistKoala
03/02/12 12:47:00 PM
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I'd play DotA if I got into the beta. 'woops'

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AfroSquirrel
03/02/12 1:05:00 PM
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I played the original DotA once years ago. All I remember is that I made tress and made other people trees. And we probably won.

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Hrezs
03/02/12 1:07:00 PM
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I played dota a couple times with friends, most of us had no idea what we were doing

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Hrezs
03/02/12 1:08:00 PM
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I should mention this was before I played LoL

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HanOfTheNekos
03/02/12 1:34:00 PM
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LoL is a lot more new-user friendly than DotA ever was.

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Lopen
03/02/12 1:51:00 PM
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I played a lot of DotA back in the day but LoL does a lot of stuff better-- the laning phase an number of viable champ builds/roles in particular. Possible DotA2 helps that (though DotA fans seem to like the things I have problems with like denying so I doubt it), but yeah. Enough that I don't see myself going back to DotA (also having a bunch of champions and stuff or this game certainly doesn't encour1age me either)

Course there are some things dota does better too but... given the choice I go LoL

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Gwindor
03/02/12 1:54:00 PM
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I got into the DOTA 2 beta.

I personally didn't care for it. The community is far more cruel, as well. My opinion right now is that I don't want to put in the enormous amount of time it would take to learn the game for the privilege of playing with those people.

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Lopen
03/02/12 2:01:00 PM
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Yeah community isn't a strong suit of any of the games but LoL's is probably the best, somehow.

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Articuno2001
03/02/12 2:03:00 PM
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From: Hrezs | #011
I played dota a couple times with friends, most of us had no idea what we were doing


This. One of my friends, though, was really good at it.

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OctilIery
03/02/12 2:13:00 PM
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From: Lopen | #016
Yeah community isn't a strong suit of any of the games but LoL's is probably the best, somehow.


Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Both of them have just as much trash talking, flaming, etc etc. That doesn't change. LoL's community is a joke, however, because of how much handholding Riot does with bad players and whiners, catering to them rather than helping them learn.

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Justin_Crossing
03/02/12 2:14:00 PM
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From: KommunistKoala | #009
I'd play DotA if I got into the beta. 'woops'


protip to getting into the beta

add it to your steam wishlist

i got accepted like a week after i did that

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Lopen
03/02/12 2:39:00 PM
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From: OctilIery | #018
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Both of them have just as much trash talking, flaming, etc etc. That doesn't change. LoL's community is a joke, however, because of how much handholding Riot does with bad players and whiners, catering to them rather than helping them learn.


It might just be because in DotA you have more power over things but in DotA games you're often kicked out of the game before it even starts because of something you said or whatever. In game you'll basically get flamed for small errors-- forget feeding. Missing a deny or having a weird but viable first item will make people flip sometimes. It's not always this bad, mind you, but yeah, it's often enough that it's worth mentioning-- at least it was 6 years ago.

DotA's community to me is like a bunch of people waiting to flame you, actively looking for an opportunity to do so.
LoL's community is like a bunch of people who are unassuming and then overreact a ton to their team not winning and start flaming then.

Big difference. The reactions of LoL players are usually justified, but overblown. DotA come off as a bunch of nerd ragers chomping at the bit. LoL isn't great, but it pretty much wins by default there.

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OctilIery
03/02/12 2:49:00 PM
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From: Lopen | #020
It might just be because in DotA you have more power over things but in DotA games you're often kicked out of the game before it even starts because of something you said or whatever. In game you'll basically get flamed for small errors-- forget feeding. Missing a deny or having a weird but viable first item will make people flip sometimes. It's not always this bad, mind you, but yeah, it's often enough that it's worth mentioning-- at least it was 6 years ago.

DotA's community to me is like a bunch of people waiting to flame you, actively looking for an opportunity to do so.
LoL's community is like a bunch of people who are unassuming and then overreact a ton to their team not winning and start flaming then.

Big difference. The reactions of LoL players are usually justified, but overblown. DotA come off as a bunch of nerd ragers chomping at the bit. LoL isn't great, but it pretty much wins by default there.


So far in Dota 2 I've experienced none of that. They have a queue, so there is no more kicking people from matches that I know of, and the raging isn't nearly as bad as you say - LoL has it just as bad.

But then you compare the fact that Dota 2 has so many more tools in place, even in beta, to help teach players than LoL that these are easily correctible mistakes.

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The Real Truth
03/02/12 2:50:00 PM
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Dota 2 also has some commend options and allows you to report players for abusive text and voice.

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 2:51:00 PM
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LoL's community is like a bunch of people who are unassuming and then overreact a ton to their team not winning and start flaming then.


I feel like this is probably the most fair assessment of the community.

Like, I get that some people are just petty trolls, but most guys I get in games with are decent enough to start with. If the game starts to turn sour, they start getting pissed, but in a way that makes me believe that they just didn't want to lose another 30 minute game .

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EDumey
03/02/12 2:51:00 PM
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I was big into WC3 customs. I played DotA in the first few weeks that it was really starting to get steam. I wasn't very good at it. The community was unforgiving. It was a lot easier for me to spend my time on other games, rather than try and get better at something I initially sucked at.

The matchmaking system of LoL makes that a ton easier. Hence why I now play LoL.

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Lopen
03/02/12 2:58:00 PM
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OctilIery
03/02/12 2:58:00 PM
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From: The Real Truth | #022
Dota 2 also has some commend options and allows you to report players for abusive text and voice.


Yup, and you don't have to wait for the match to end either.

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Lopen
03/02/12 2:58:00 PM
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Like I said, it may be better with DotA2, but LoL is leagues ahead of the original DotA, communitywise.

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OctilIery
03/02/12 3:00:00 PM
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Peace___Frog
03/02/12 3:01:00 PM
#29:


tagging

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Lopen
03/02/12 3:08:00 PM
#30:


From the deleted message it looks like my delete wasn't fast enough.

Well I don't care if you know what I said (it wasn't intended as a jab, really, just an honest, if perhaps incorrect, appraisal) I just deleted it to not start an argument over it more than anything! And it apparently worked on that front so everything's copacetic.

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OctilIery
03/02/12 3:10:00 PM
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From: Lopen | #030
From the deleted message it looks like my delete wasn't fast enough.

Well I don't care if you know what I said (it wasn't intended as a jab, really, just an honest, if perhaps incorrect, appraisal) I just deleted it to not start an argument over it more than anything! And it apparently worked on that front so everything's copacetic.


It wasn't taken as a jab, I simply responded and clarified. No offense taken, and I deleted since you obviously wanted it gone :P

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Justin_Crossing
03/02/12 3:14:00 PM
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On a whim I tried Wriggles/PD instead of rushing IE

my goodness i got so fed

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Peace___Frog
03/02/12 3:17:00 PM
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As what champ, JC?

Also, opinion of Lopen + 5 for using that word. My awesome econ prof last year overused copacetic to ****, but it is such a great word.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 5:13:00 PM
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Interesting appraisals of the DotA1 and LoL communities. I more or less agree with what I'm seeing.

My approach to both games is usually to only get upset when it is a 'serious' game. (A high level dota game like a clan match, or a ranked LoL game). I try to be as forgiving as possible otherwise.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 5:34:00 PM
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red/FD DuoQ Time:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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Justin_Crossing
03/02/12 5:34:00 PM
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From: Peace___Frog | #028
As what champ, JC?

Also, opinion of Lopen + 5 for using that word. My awesome econ prof last year overused copacetic to ****, but it is such a great word.


Trist.

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AfroSquirrel
03/02/12 6:11:00 PM
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Another great match with Fiora and I made enough to buy Leona. I'll definitely need to tinker with her item list a bit, but not as much as with Fiora. Oh, and I'm having fun with her too :D

So, itemwise for Leona:

Frozen Heart (from Glacial Shroud) -> CDR boots -> Aegis of the Legion? I figure mostly focus on aura items.

Skillwise, W,E,Q, and then max in that order, taking ult whenever possible.

So, what other items should I look for as Leona?

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 8:00:00 PM
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DuoQ going poorly so far:

Loss ~ Warwick ~ 3-5-1 (0.80) [-13] 1697 [45]
Loss ~ Maokai ~ 2-6-6 (1.33) [-12] 1685 [34]
Loss ~ Shyvana ~ 8-9-13 (2.33) [-12] 1673 [45]


just augh.

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AfroSquirrel
03/02/12 11:22:00 PM
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I am now becoming acquainted with the downside of playing a support/tank: Watching your team's Ashe, Ryze, and Riven run away from the Fiora ineffectually hitting you between stuns. Also, watching your team's Singed try to poison your own minions and complain that the game is broken.

Still, there is something to be said for being able to shrug off a Judgement.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 11:33:00 PM
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Loss ~ Alistar ~ 1-3-2 (1.00) [-13] 1660 [45]
Win ~ Gangplank ~ 1-0-9 (infinity) [+13] 1673 [34]
Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 1-4-5 (1.50) [-13] 1660 [34]
Loss ~ Skarner ~ 1-3-3 (1.33) [-12] 1648 [45]
Win ~ Nautilus ~ 4-1-19 (23.00) [+13] 1661 [45]

2-3 since the last update

(we're playing a lot tonight)

2-6 total today, augh ;_;

but still we endure! Red/FD DuoQ Continues:
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Justin_Crossing
03/02/12 11:34:00 PM
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play more nautilus

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 11:38:00 PM
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I want to play nothing but jungle naut unless I see some reason (ie a strong counterpick) not to.

Stupid jerk 2 pick stole jungle after i called it this game though so Im GP top. -_-

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Forceful_Dragon
03/03/12 12:24:00 AM
#43:


Win ~ Gangplank ~ 2-5-13 (3.00) [+13] 1674 [34]

That's 2 in a row, we're on a winning streak! (technically)

From: Forceful_Dragon | #040
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Forceful_Dragon
03/03/12 1:45:00 AM
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Loss ~ Nautilus ~ 0-7-6 (0.86) [-13] 1661 [35]
Win ~ Gangplank ~ 3-0-6 (infinity) [+13] 1674 [34]


4-7 so far, playing one last duoQ.

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Luis_Sera89
03/03/12 4:37:00 PM
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Armour and MR isn't so important on Leona; you get more than enough of that when it matters from her W. As for items, CD reduction is useful so Shurelia's gives her a lot of what she needs. If you're playing her solo top you really need to build her as a Trinity Force off-tank. For support, Shurelia's and Locket is a good core, and then whatever you need from that point on.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/03/12 5:12:00 PM
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Red/FD DuoQ Time:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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Mega Mana
03/03/12 5:18:00 PM
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aw yeah

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Forceful_Dragon
03/03/12 6:41:00 PM
#48:


Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 5-3-14 (6.33) [-13] 1649 [34]
Win ~ Tristana ~ 2-1-3 (5.00) [+13] 1662 [34]

1-1 so far, game 3 is starting.


I'm probably gonna take a 15 min food break after this game though.

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Mega Mana
03/03/12 7:14:00 PM
#49:


0-2 tonight. Failed as Morgana first game, first time Jarvan second time and failed late game (though my early game against Wukong was pretty good).

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Forceful_Dragon
03/03/12 7:37:00 PM
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Game 3 = loss -_-
Loss ~ Gangplank ~ 2-4-3 (1.25) [-13] 1649 [34]

Took a break to watch the cross assault finals (wooo nerdjosh). Back to the DuoQ:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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