Board 8 > Literally got modded for saying that abortion is murder

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Personally I'd take a home that doesn't want me over being dead.

Have you ever been dead before? How would you know that? You have no idea what you are talking about.

Unless you were raised on a farm, you didn't eat fertilized eggs.

Uh, I never said I ate them.

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Like I said, MAPs are fine, and I'd even extend this to if you think you took care of it, but one day got morning sickness and just found out. But I feel it's pretty bad when someone simply changes their mind on the situation and is like "i dont want to do this anymore"

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Primarily irreligious cultures still do not, as a rule, tolerate murder.

Why?

And which cultures specifically are you talking about?

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XD you ever try being dead? Don't knock it till you've tried it

And yet you are alive, and the vast majority of all people die a natural death.

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SlymDayspring posted...
Have you ever been dead before? How would you know that? You have no idea what you are talking about.

Literally posted this. I think I've gotten my answer as to whether your were trolling. So long!

Uh, I never said I ate them.

Okay

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SubDeity posted...
XD you ever try being dead? Don't knock it till you've tried it

And yet you are alive, and the vast majority of all people die a natural death.

Vast majority my f***ing dick! I've had two unnatural deaths that I've managed to come back from and one where I drifted off into the edge of what lies beyond and because I had people back here trying to hold on to me, I made it through... but you have no f***ing clue what was there for those few moments I couldn't tell if I was dreaming or what the f*** was happening...

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...what.

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SubDeity posted...
...what.

if you said that to me, see my sig dude >_>

if not nevermind

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Speaking as a convicted murderer and an experienced (though not licensed) abortion practioner, I feel that I am uniquely positioned to decide this issue.

Abortion and murder? Two different things. I understand how the uninformed can't see the difference, but until you get rid of an ex-wife with a coathanger, leave it to the professionals.

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From: ImTheMacheteGuy | Posted: 2/1/2012 11:20:57 PM | #106
Vast majority my f***ing dick! I've had two unnatural deaths that I've managed to come back from and one where I drifted off into the edge of what lies beyond and because I had people back here trying to hold on to me, I made it through... but you have no f***ing clue what was there for those few moments I couldn't tell if I was dreaming or what the f*** was happening...

I have not and will not read the rest of this topic. Giving the above message context would ruin things for me. This is the only post I have read and I will now leave the topic will full confidence that absolutely nothing I read here will manage to top that. I'm not entirely sure what "that" even is, but from the bottom of my heart, thank you for that post.

I took one look at this topic when it had 1 post, saw the word "abortion" and thought to myself "this will hit at least 100 posts".

Am I good or what?

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Haguile posted...
From: ImTheMacheteGuy | Posted: 2/1/2012 11:20:57 PM | #106
Vast majority my f***ing dick! I've had two unnatural deaths that I've managed to come back from and one where I drifted off into the edge of what lies beyond and because I had people back here trying to hold on to me, I made it through... but you have no f***ing clue what was there for those few moments I couldn't tell if I was dreaming or what the f*** was happening...
I have not and will not read the rest of this topic. Giving the above message context would ruin things for me. This is the only post I have read and I will now leave the topic will full confidence that absolutely nothing I read here will manage to top that. I'm not entirely sure what "that" even is, but from the bottom of my heart, thank you for that post.

Haguile... if you remain in the topic long enough to read this, I want to thank you for your post. I know that you have already appeared in the 2012 uoty in a division that has passed, and I know that I did not +3 you... and I'm drunk. I hope you're cool with that becaus I am and now I heard some crazy s*** out out themwindow so just litsten man if you hear cops too, we might be geogrpajhically pretty close or something cuz I heard that too okay man peace...

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dumb mod, dumb opinion

next

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I took one look at this topic when it had 1 post, saw the word "abortion" and thought to myself "this will hit at least 100 posts".

Am I good or what?

we got a ****ing wizard here

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From: OmarsComin | #005
lol

fetuses aren't people

Oh hey now

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Aaaaand it becomes an abortion debate.

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What was I thinking when I posted that? I created a monster.

Primarily irreligious cultures still do not, as a rule, tolerate murder.

Why?

Probably has something to do with people seeing all human life as innately valuable, or they understand that if murder is tolerated, then they themselves may be murdered, and they don't want to die.

And which cultures specifically are you talking about?

All of them, pretty much! I'm not a sociologist but I'm not actually aware of any society which is particularly tolerant of murder; by all means, provide a counterexample. Japan and Sweden work as two examples of clearly less religious countries no more tolerant of murder than any other.

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Aaaaand it becomes an abortion debate.


...becomes?

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From: SlymDayspring | #097
I'm pretty much you deserve what you get.

children clearly should be a punishment

because loving people know that it is more important that you learn a lesson than a child get a home that is ready for and wants him.

adoption exists >_>

Every baby that is aborted means another infertile (or homosexual) couple will have to spend fistfuls of bills to adopt a baby from overseas. If you hadn't noticed, the U.S. has a shortage of adoptable babies.

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MegaWentEvil posted...
Maybe I'm gonna get disagreed with, but I don't think all pro-life people are pro-life out of religious reasons.

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER AND IT'S MWE OF ALL F***ING PEOPLE. I wish he would stop trolling and act here the way he did on game boards, where he is honestly a pretty cool dude.

Abortion is only okay in cases of rape, incest and the mother's life being in danger, and the procedure must be performed in the first trimester before the fetus is developed enough to know what's going on -- ie, the brain having pain receptors. No other reason and no other time frame is acceptable, and if you don't want the child then put it up for adoption. Otherwise grow up, be an adult and keep your legs shut. Abortion is meant to be used in cases of emergency and trauma, not as birth control to hide your being a whore from your parents.

Oh, sorry, "in my opinion" should preceed the previous paragraph. Wouldn't want to offend this site's hyper-liberal principles.

Also:

1 - 58% of Americans are against abortion (and growing), or feel the same way about it as I do where they're only pro-choice to a certain point. If you use abortion as a means of birth control because you're an irresponsible whore, you aren't going to get any sympathy from anyone other than hardcore pro-choice psychopaths. That number was down in the 40s in the 1990s, but people have figured out that most of the groups in favor of abortion are anti-family, anti-human eugenicist trash. Speaking of...
2 - Regardless of your stance, Planned Parenthood in on record saying their main goals are population control, and population control among black people. 52% of all black babies have been aborted since Roe v Wade, and under no standard is that acceptable. These are not the people I want in charge of the process or getting tax money. SD is 100% correct in his assessment of their mentality.
3 - That moderator who initially deleted the message is absolutely terrible, should be demodded immediately and this site's idiotic practice of finding legitimate conservative views "offensive" needed to end, like, 10 years ago. I don't even care if it's ngirl or another mod I'm good friends with who deleted it; that is wholly unacceptable. I'd like to know who that lead was who overturned it so I can donate money to the guy or girl, seriously. Send me a PM with your paypal email if you see this message, not even kidding.
4 - You can make a very good argument against abortion without ever bringing religion into the equation. Those who go "lol religion" to defend abortion are unable to make any other argument, in my experience.
5 - SubDeity is far smarter than you are.

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Abortion might be the one issue on the entire planet where it's okay to have cake and eat it too. If a girl gets raped by her uncle, yeah, abort the fetus. You have every right to.

Worth noting here is abortion was introduced into the culture through degrees of incrementalism. At first, "the mother's life being in danger" was considered okay, but the practice wasn't actually called abortion. It was just an emergency surgery. I do agree that this form of "abortion" is okay, but a c-section and attempt to save the fetus should be done if possible.

Remember back when SephG and Muffin made the argument of the slippery slope being a legitimate debating technique? They're correct on that, and for good reason.

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Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.

OmarsComin posted...
on the one hand, it's a bad moderation by an obviously biased mod

on the other hand, it is hard to feel sympathy for you

Agreed

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God damn that's some ****ed up ****
*topic list*

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Strahax please do not agree with me on any subject

it gives me the sinking feeling that I might be an awful person by osmosis

thanks in advance

Awwww yeah Strahax disagrees with me.

VINDICATION.

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also as someone who had MWE on his friend list for a month I can vouch that he doesn't actually have a troll persona, he's always the same. either that or he's doing this schtick everywhere. sometimes he makes normal posts though.

3 = 4

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Look, and abortion topic... sigh...

Abortion is one of those big issues that really shouldn't be an issue.

Let's look at the facts here:

1: Abortion IS murder. You take a living creature and kill it. That's a fact.

2: Stepping on an ant is also murder, of an equally intelligent creature unless the fetus was almost complete.

3: If you're a good person, you make every effort to avoid both.

4: Unless you're completely deranged, you don't object to an abortion in cases where having the baby will be dangerous to the mother for whatever reason, or if she was raped.


So, what's even the point of discussion here?

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So, what's even the point of discussion here?

no one is passing laws labeling stepping on ants as murder, in fact most people wouldn't consider killing any animal "murder" and don't think it requires moral justification. same with abortion, just a different group of people.

there's actually a lot to discuss, obviously most people don't share your position. I dunno why you thought that would be helpful.

MZero11 posted...
I took one look at this topic when it had 1 post, saw the word "abortion" and thought to myself "this will hit at least 100 posts".

Am I good or what?



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No matter what your views on abortion are, the "everybody has their own definition of life" thing is stupid. If I killed a fly, the fact is that I killed it. Going "according to MY PERSONAL DEFINITION OF LIFE this fly is still alive" is nonsensical.

2: Stepping on an ant is also murder, of an equally intelligent creature unless the fetus was almost complete.

Intelligence seems a faulty definition of life. Are the lives of the intelligent worth more than those of average intelligence, simply because the former are smarter?

4: Unless you're completely deranged, you don't object to an abortion in cases where having the baby will be dangerous to the mother for whatever reason, or if she was raped.

Danger is a slippery concept. Ireland notoriously allows the danger of suicide to justify an abortion. As for rape, how does the morality of killing an unborn child change based on its origin? Abortion will not undo the rape.

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Intelligence seems a faulty definition of life. Are the lives of the intelligent worth more than those of average intelligence, simply because the former are smarter?

Careful now! You're arguing with a board that's 90% socialist. You might not get the answer you're hoping for!

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killing an unborn child

a fetus =! an unborn child, jesus.

that moderation
it was dumb, also stupid
abortion rules though

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Intelligence seems a faulty definition of life. Are the lives of the intelligent worth more than those of average intelligence, simply because the former are smarter?

Your question has no bearing on whether or not his definition of intelligence is a good indicator. First off, if his definition of "correct to kill" is binary or at the very least talking about crossing some intelligence threshold somewhere between an ant/fetus and an adult human. It's complete nonsense then, to pretend that the Takfloyd's threshold is between "an average intelligence human and a genius" or that he claimed that there was another threshold right where you say it is. Your error seems to stem from conflating "intelligence" as a wide spectrum extending from bacteria all the way up to humans with "intelligence" as the buzzword for how some guys are more awesome than others.

Also your question isn't very good either. What happens if he replies yes? Did you actually plan to hear him out?

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