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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:31:00 AM
#451:


Just updated my WWE PPV Match Streaks document.

Here's the updated list of everyone who has had a match on more than 1 PPV in a row:

The biggest update was that Alberto Del Rio's 8 PPV streak was snapped.

Randy Orton: 43 (Survivor Series 2008)
CM Punk: 14 (Royal Rumble 2011)
Kofi Kingston: 9 (Capital Punishment 2011)
Mark Henry: 8 (Money in the Bank 2011)
Beth Phoenix: 7 (Summerslam 2011)
Dolph Ziggler: 6 (Night of Champions 2011)
Jack Swagger: 6 (Night of Champions 2011)
Cody Rhodes: 6 (Night of Champions 2011)
Sheamus: 5 (Hell in a Cell 2011)
Big Show: 4 (Vengeance 2011)
The Miz: 4 (Vengeance 2011)
Wade Barrett: 3 (Survivor Series 2011)

2 (TLC: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs 2011)
Primo
Epico
Kelly Kelly
Daniel Bryan
Booker T

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:34:00 AM
#452:


...Ortons been on every PPV for 43 ones straight?

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:35:00 AM
#453:


Yes

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Rad Link 5
01/30/12 11:36:00 AM
#454:


Out of curiosity, do you know what Cena's number would have been up to had he not missed TLC?

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:37:00 AM
#455:


From: Rad Link 5 | #454
Out of curiosity, do you know what Cena's number would have been up to had he not missed TLC?


Assuming he had a match at TLC, he'd be at 15.

Remember he was only a ref at Survivor Series 2010.

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muddersmilk
01/30/12 11:37:00 AM
#456:


voltch posted...
Wonder if Goldberg could get over using 50-50.

Considering his gimmick was that he was unbeatable? Probably not. Though if he was going 50-50 with like Hogan, Sting, and Nash and won the final match of each that probably would still have gotten him over.

Hosses and heavy hitters like that really can't get over using 50-50 I'd say. Well maybe if they were trading victories with like Undertaker or another big guy.

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Rad Link 5
01/30/12 11:40:00 AM
#457:


And did people really not like Ziggler vs Punk? Sure the ending was goofy, and it would have been better off as a whole without John Laurinaitis involved, but the match itself was pretty good I thought.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:41:00 AM
#458:


Yeah, I'm seeing some strong reviews for that match.

I was possibly too caught up in the ref bump shenanigans to appreciate the match itself.

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voltch
01/30/12 11:42:00 AM
#459:


Why are Hogan and Nash over anyway?

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XIII_rocks
01/30/12 11:42:00 AM
#460:


Match was great, but it didn't go long enough and it was robbed of a really nice, conclusive finish.

Some great wrestling though. Ziggler countering the GTS into a legdrop bulldog was insanulous.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:43:00 AM
#461:


From: voltch | #459
Why are Hogan and Nash over anyway?


Nash is over?

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voltch
01/30/12 11:45:00 AM
#462:


From: JaKyL25 | #461
Nash is over?


More over than HBK.

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muddersmilk
01/30/12 11:45:00 AM
#463:


Wait are we talking currently or back when Goldberg was actually in the process of getting over? Cause I was talking about then.

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:45:00 AM
#464:


..theres a single person who likes Nash?

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:46:00 AM
#465:


Chris Jericho @IAmJericho
I've got something to say.... #raw



Which knowing Jericho's history on Twitter means he's not even going to appear. <_<

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:48:00 AM
#466:


From: muddersmilk | #463
Wait are we talking currently or back when Goldberg was actually in the process of getting over? Cause I was talking about then.


Voltch is trying to use the Socratic Method to get you to understand that 50/50 booking doesn't work as far as establishing new stars goes.

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voltch
01/30/12 11:49:00 AM
#467:


I dunno Dante, did the nWo ever really do good business?

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:50:00 AM
#468:


what is nWo

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voltch
01/30/12 11:51:00 AM
#469:


something involving Jeff Jarrett of TNA fame.

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:51:00 AM
#470:


who's jeff jarrett?

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:52:00 AM
#471:


Dante, have you seen the Elimination Chamber poster?

external image

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:53:00 AM
#472:


Not only have I seen it, I've posted it on my wall

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muddersmilk
01/30/12 11:53:00 AM
#473:


JaKyL25 posted...
From: muddersmilk | #463
Wait are we talking currently or back when Goldberg was actually in the process of getting over? Cause I was talking about then.
Voltch is trying to use the Socratic Method to get you to understand that 50/50 booking doesn't work as far as establishing new stars goes.


Oh. Well the problem with that is that I don't really think it works to get new stars over at least past the lower/midcard level.

I don't enjoy 50-50 booking because it is effective booking to get a guy over, I like it because it can lead to a series of great matches with a variety of endings.

I think there was some miscommunication here.

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voltch
01/30/12 11:53:00 AM
#474:


Meltzer saying Cena was at one point scheduled to win the rumble.

Story being choose between The Rock or the Title match at mania.

Who wanted what we got instead of that?

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:55:00 AM
#475:


From: X_Dante_X | #472
Not only have I seen it, I've posted it on my wall


Which do you prefer, this one or the Extreme Rules 2010 poster?

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 11:55:00 AM
#476:


don't make me choose, they're both so good

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voltch
01/30/12 11:56:00 AM
#477:


Co-champion posters.

Flawless~

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:58:00 AM
#478:


From: voltch | #474
Meltzer saying Cena was at one point scheduled to win the rumble.

Story being choose between The Rock or the Title match at mania.

Who wanted what we got instead of that?


That's pretty stupid and I hope he's wrong.

They JUST DID an angle where Cena chose a US Title shot for Ryder over a WWE Title shot for himself.

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voltch
01/30/12 11:59:00 AM
#479:


From the looks of it, they DID realise it was all stupid.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 11:59:00 AM
#480:


Well I'm just saying that I would be disappointed if that thought ever crossed their minds.

It would imply that Cena entered the Rumble not knowing what he would do if he won.

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voltch
01/30/12 12:03:00 PM
#481:


They keep changing their plans all the time, so it wouldn't surprise me if every possible scenario entered their minds at one point or another.

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Rad Link 5
01/30/12 12:07:00 PM
#482:


From: voltch | #474
Meltzer saying Cena was at one point scheduled to win the rumble.

Story being choose between The Rock or the Title match at mania.

Who wanted what we got instead of that?


If Cena eliminated Jericho to win the Rumble, I'm pretty sure I'd have quit watching again.

It's just mind boggling how they can continue to think Cena, on the precipice of probably the biggest match of his career, should be winning more titles/major events. He has double digit world titles before you're even done counting his WWE Championship reigns. Use these titles and events to elevate other people while he's busy elsewhere!

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:28:00 PM
#483:


Elimination totals from last night:

Cody Rhodes: 6
Big Show: 4
Mick Foley: 3
Randy Orton: 3
Dolph Ziggler: 3
Chris Jericho: 2
The Great Khali: 2
The Miz: 2
Sheamus: 2

And then one elimination each for:
Wade Barrett
Booker T
Jerry Lawler
Ricardo Rodriguez
Kharma
Santino Marella

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:34:00 PM
#484:


Rumble Times:

The Miz: 45:40
Cody Rhodes: 41:57
Sheamus: 22:20
Dolph Ziggler: 19:48
Kofi Kingston: 17:57
Chris Jericho: 11:34
Hunico: 9:03
Jack Swagger: 7:59
The Great Khali: 7:31
Jey Uso: 7:03
Mick Foley: 6:32
Justin Gabriel: 6:11
Randy Orton: 5:46
R-Truth: 4:58
Road Dogg: 4:56
Booker T: 4:42
Wade Barrett: 3:55
Ezekiel Jackson: 3:46
David Otunga: 3:15
Santino Marella: 2:30
Ricardo Rodriguez: 2:18
Primo: 1:56
Big Show: 1:52
Michael Cole: 1:24
Jinder Mahal: 1:18
Alex Riley: 1:15
Kharma: 1:00
Jim Duggan: 0:57
Jerry Lawler: 0:43
Epico: 0:11

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voltch
01/30/12 12:36:00 PM
#485:


Is this a record number of eliminations for Foley?

Miz at 45 awesome.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:39:00 PM
#486:


Foley got four eliminations in 1998

But he did enter the match 3 times. <_<

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voltch
01/30/12 12:41:00 PM
#487:


I only count the elims per persona there!

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:42:00 PM
#488:


Oh well then 2 for Dude, 1 for Cactus, and 1 for Mankind

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XIII_rocks
01/30/12 12:42:00 PM
#489:


lol @ the tag champs being in for just over 2 minutes combined

Yay for Miz being the Ironman. Pity his elimination was so unremarkable.

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voltch
01/30/12 12:43:00 PM
#490:


Cmon Terry Funk comeback as a legends spot.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:47:00 PM
#491:


I think Cody wins the Rumble MVP award. Most eliminations and 2nd-longest time.

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edwardsdv
01/30/12 12:48:00 PM
#492:


Big show lasts under 2 minutes but gets the 2nd most eliminations... just sickening.

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voltch
01/30/12 12:52:00 PM
#493:


Quick look on googles yields Meltzer's top draws in the W/WWF/E


1. BRUNO SAMMARTINO

2. HULK HOGAN
3. BOB BACKLUND

4. ARGENTINA ROCCA
5. HHH
6. UNDERTAKER
7. STEVE AUSTIN
8. THE ROCK
9. PEDRO MORALES
10. SHAWN MICHAELS

11. SUPERSTAR BILLY GRAHAM
12. MIGUEL PEREZ
13. BRET HART
14. BUDDY ROGERS
15. RANDY SAVAGE
16. JOHN CENA
17. KURT ANGLE
18. MICK FOLEY aka CACTUS JACK, DUDE LOVE, MANKIND
19. ANDRE THE GIANT
20. DR. JERRY GRAHAM

(TIE) JOHNNY VALENTINE
22. RODDY PIPER
23. IVAN KOLOFF
24. ULTIMATE WARRIOR
(TIE) RANDY ORTON
(TIE) BATISTA
27. GREG VALENTINE
(TIE) YOKOZUNA
(TIE) SGT. SLAUGHTER
30. GEORGE STEELE

(TIE) CHRIS JERICHO
(TIE) KANE
(TIE) KEVIN NASH aka DIESEL
34. RIC FLAIR
(TIE) BIG SHOW aka PAUL WRIGHT
(TIE) STAN HANSEN
(TIE) GORILLA MONSOON
(TIE) KEN PATERA
39. FRED BLASSIE
(TIE) BOB ORTON SR. aka ROCKY FITZPATRICK

(TIE) BROCK LESNAR
42. EDDIE GRAHAM
(TIE) KILLER KOWALSKI
(TIE) PROFESSOR TORU TANAKA
(TIE) DON MURACO
(TIE) DAVEY BOY SMITH aka BRITISH BULLDOG
(TIE) EDGE
(TIE) CHRIS BENOIT
49. LARRY ZBYSZKO
(TIE) PAUL ORNDORFF

(TIE) IRON SHEIK aka GREAT HOSSEIN ARAB aka COL. MUSTAFA
(TIE) NIKOLAI VOLKOFF aka BEPO MONGOL
(TIE) WALDO VON ERICH
(TIE) BOOKER T aka KING BOOKER

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Rad Link 5
01/30/12 12:52:00 PM
#494:


From: JaKyL25 | #483
Cody Rhodes: 6


Woooo! I love how they're building him up so consistently.

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voltch
01/30/12 12:53:00 PM
#495:


Rhodes da Legend Killah

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:54:00 PM
#496:


I forget when that list is from.

And IIRC it's a cumulative "How much money did you bring in on shows where you were in the advertised main event over the course of your career" right?

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voltch
01/30/12 12:54:00 PM
#497:


Along those lines.

Combines Ticket sales, Buyrates etc via who main evented.

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X_Dante_X
01/30/12 12:54:00 PM
#498:


For a fun game, I counted how many of those names I recognized

22!

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voltch
01/30/12 12:56:00 PM
#499:


lol JBL.

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JaKyL25
01/30/12 12:56:00 PM
#500:


From: voltch | #497
Along those lines.

Combines Ticket sales, Buyrates etc via who main evented.


Right, but the point is that it's CUMULATIVE, which is why someone like Triple H tops Austin.

Triple H has just been in so many more main events.

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