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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 2:33:00 PM #351: |
well that was ****.
Just go for it next time. -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stoneraider 01/15/12 2:33:00 PM #352: |
I saw it too frame by frame neon. ball to me was not in his hands while he was still airborne
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Suprak the Stud 01/15/12 2:33:00 PM #353: |
Terrible call leading to points for the Packers.
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SHINE GET 64 01/15/12 2:34:00 PM #354: |
Packers literally toying with the Giants
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 2:34:00 PM #355: |
But it's clear that they can't do this consistently correctly, in any sport.
And it's also clear that replay doesn't change that fact. Except in Tennis. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 2:35:00 PM #356: |
From: SmartMuffin | #355
But it's clear that they can't do this consistently correctly, in any sport. And it's also clear that replay doesn't change that fact. Except in Tennis. To be fair, the Packers already won an obvious challenge earlier in the game. Given the field position the Giants would have had if that kickoff was ruled a fumble, I think it's a little difficult to say that replay hasn't changed anything... even in this game. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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th3l3fty 01/15/12 2:36:00 PM #357: |
From: SmartMuffin | #348 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/scorecasting/09/15/kelley.pulaski/index.html -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 2:38:00 PM #358: |
White Vick
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LeonhartFour 01/15/12 2:38:00 PM #359: |
Aaron Rodgers best RB on the field today
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:38:00 PM #360: |
From: SmartMuffin | #355 Replay allows them to get MORE calls right than they otherwise would have. I'll agree entirely that the manner in which NFL replays (and MLB replays) are handled is dumb. There's no need for the head official to have to go get under a hood. Just have some booth official buzz down with the ruling. The process can totally be streamlined. But to me, getting even a net gain of one call correct that would otherwise be called incorrectly with no replay means that the concept is a positive. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 2:39:00 PM #361: |
From: LeonhartFour | #359
Aaron Rodgers best RB on the field today Put Matt Flynn in at QB and move Rodgers to RB, IMO. Unstoppable offense. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 01/15/12 2:40:00 PM #362: |
Patriots learned the value of Hernandez at RB. Packers are learning the value of Rodgers at RB.
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 2:40:00 PM #363: |
Drop Bay Droppers
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stoneraider 01/15/12 2:40:00 PM #364: |
Rodgers needs to start passing the ball to himself.
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 2:41:00 PM #365: |
From: xp1337 | Posted: 1/15/2012 5:39:26 PM | #361 That sounds like a scary team honestly -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 2:42:00 PM #366: |
But to me, getting even a net gain of one call correct that would otherwise be called incorrectly with no replay means that the concept is a positive.
So, if every game took an extra 30 minutes because of replay, but only one in one hundred calls was reversed, you'd still consider that positive? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:46:00 PM #367: |
Yes. Without even thinking about it.
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 2:47:00 PM #368: |
Wow. That's crazy. But thanks for the clarification!
So, I assume you'd be in favor of eliminating the "the ref has only 60 seconds to decide" rule, then? After all, giving him more time to look increases the odds he'll make the correct call, right? -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:47:00 PM #369: |
It's kind of a moot question though.
Literally every play of every NCAA game is reviewed, and their games are SHORTER than NFL games. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 2:48:00 PM #370: |
MORGAN BURNETT
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 2:49:00 PM #371: |
Nice throw.
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:51:00 PM #372: |
From: SmartMuffin | #368 If he honestly thinks that going back over the same footage for longer will increase his odds of coming to a conclusive decision, then sure. I would in fact be very curious to know how often a ref felt that he wanted to keep reviewing but felt the time crunch and had to stop. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 2:52:00 PM #373: |
Honestly, I don't really get the "oh no the game will be longer" argument. I'd rather wait a little longer but be sure the calls are correct.
If I were in charge I'd change the challenge system. You'd still have the two and get a third if you win both, but I'd say if you win the third, you just keep getting one more challenge until you lose one. If the refs keep getting the calls wrong, I don't see why you shut down the team that's calling them out on it correctly just for trying to fix their mistakes. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stoneraider 01/15/12 2:53:00 PM #374: |
lol fumble
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 2:53:00 PM #375: |
ROLLEIN'
ROLLEIN' ROLLEIN' KEEP THAT FOOTBALL ROLLEIN' ROLLE'EM BACK ANTRELLLLLLL -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 2:53:00 PM #376: |
You should never be penalized for an incorrect challenge in any way under any circumstance. But that's just one of many flaws with the current system!
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:55:00 PM #377: |
From: xp1337 | #373 Exactly. The NFL system is ridiculous in structure. IMO, you should have infinite correct challenges, and incorrect challenges should cost you a timeout, and you should have as many of those as timeouts. Like, I don't care if you get three challenges wrong per half, as long as every one of them cost you a timeout. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 2:55:00 PM #378: |
The "get an extra challenge" idea and execution are both pretty dumb as well.
Hey, you realized we ****ed up! Heres another one to give us more incentive to do so! -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 2:56:00 PM #379: |
From: SmartMuffin | #376
You should never be penalized for an incorrect challenge in any way under any circumstance. But that's just one of many flaws with the current system! No, I think the penalty for an incorrect challenge is justified. If you could do it for "free" you could basically call unlimited timeouts. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 2:56:00 PM #380: |
Err, I should have said "correct" challenge. You should never be penalized if the REFS were incorrect.
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 2:56:00 PM #381: |
I think SMuffin meant "correct challenges" there.
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 3:00:00 PM #382: |
Although again, the NCAA system is ideal.
Every play being reviewed by a booth official, and he will buzz down if he thinks something might be amiss. And then both coaches have one challenge which they can use to FORCE the replay official to take an extended look at something if they really really think he's gonna miss it. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 3:03:00 PM #383: |
From: JaKyL25 | #382 That could lead to something like the Pac-12 refs though -- Will not change sig unless the Sens win the Stanley Cup. Started 2/19/07 http://paranatural.net/chapter-1-page-1/ - Read Paranatural ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 3:10:00 PM #384: |
HOLY BALLS
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 3:10:00 PM #385: |
.............................
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 3:10:00 PM #386: |
xfd
nice timeout, mccarthy -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 3:11:00 PM #387: |
HELMET CATCH 2
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WarThaNemesis2 01/15/12 3:11:00 PM #388: |
OH MY GOD THAT WAS AMAZING
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 3:11:00 PM #389: |
HAKEEM
THE MOTHER****ING DREAM Quadruple coverage And Wonderfully ELITE -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 3:13:00 PM #390: |
I'm beginning to think the onside kick was actually a good tactical move. McCarthy might have (should have) been thinking that with his defense it doesn't really matter where on the field the Giants get the ball, so you might as well go with the play that has the best shot for a Packers recovery.
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xp1337 01/15/12 3:17:00 PM #391: |
I think if the Packers offense can actually play halfway competently (Read: Catch the ball) they can still win this. But the way it's been going so far...
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JaKyL25 01/15/12 3:18:00 PM #392: |
Only Matt Flynn can save them now
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RappinHobo9292 01/15/12 3:19:00 PM #393: |
From: WiggumFan267 | #389 XD more like 4 WRs vs 2 DBs God we are so bad today -- Will not change sig unless the Sens win the Stanley Cup. Started 2/19/07 http://paranatural.net/chapter-1-page-1/ - Read Paranatural ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 3:20:00 PM #394: |
From: JaKyL25 | #392
Only Matt Flynn can save them now Well, I assumed that was a given. If they put Flynn in, he'll probably throw for 600 yards and 9 TDs. -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 01/15/12 3:23:00 PM #395: |
From: RappinHobo9292 | #393 Yeah, this. It looked like the Packers were listening to Joe Buck and expecting some quick short-yardage play to set-up a FG. As soon as Eli threw that ball I saw about twice as many white jerseys in the end-zone as green ones and thought there was a decent chance a Giant would come down with the ball. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 01/15/12 3:24:00 PM #396: |
Yeah, the moment I saw the shot of the endzone and the (lack of) Packers defenders I expected a TD.
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 3:31:00 PM #397: |
Yeah as it turns out I guess it wasnt quadruple coverage, woops!
Still had a lot of pressure on him though. -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 3:32:00 PM #398: |
Also geez, we really can't do anything about these rodgers runs.
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xp1337 01/15/12 3:33:00 PM #399: |
From: WiggumFan267 | #398
Also geez, we really can't do anything about these rodgers runs. Should just defend those tbqh, the Packers' receivers are doing a fantastic job of covering themselves. (And of course they actually complete one just now, but still) -- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WiggumFan267 01/15/12 3:37:00 PM #400: |
TRULY....
Corr"osi"ve???? ...to the other team??? There's gotta be a better word here... -- SuperNiceDog is a SuperGuruGuy! I made a stupid bet with Alec. It cost me my testicles & sig. Take all my money and I could own the Mets. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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