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SmartMuffin
01/17/12 6:36:00 PM
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01/17/12 6:40:00 PM
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SmartMuffin
01/18/12 8:00:00 PM
#153:


Because who cares about censorship of the Internet when the government can throw you in jail for no reason for as long as they want with no charges whatsoever.



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Suprak the Stud
01/19/12 10:50:00 AM
#154:


xfd, this republican debate crowd just booed Dr. Paul for invoking the golden rule

Saw this. The chasm in understanding foreign affairs between Paul and that crowd was mindblowingly shocking. Hoping it was just a handful of really dumb people...but who knows. He got booed like three times for saying some pretty common sense stuff.

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SmartMuffin
01/19/12 5:38:00 PM
#155:


Saw this. The chasm in understanding foreign affairs between Paul and that crowd was mindblowingly shocking. Hoping it was just a handful of really dumb people...but who knows. He got booed like three times for saying some pretty common sense stuff.

Well, the next day on his radio show, Glenn Beck declared that Paul "sounds a lot like Osama Bin Laden" and "has the same foreign policy as Barack Obama" so no, I don't think it's just a handful of really dumb people...

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redrocket
01/19/12 5:40:00 PM
#156:


SmartMuffin posted...
Saw this. The chasm in understanding foreign affairs between Paul and that crowd was mindblowingly shocking. Hoping it was just a handful of really dumb people...but who knows. He got booed like three times for saying some pretty common sense stuff.

Well, the next day on his radio show, Glenn Beck declared that Paul "sounds a lot like Osama Bin Laden" and "has the same foreign policy as Barack Obama" so no, I don't think it's just a handful of really dumb people...


You ever get any kind of response from your correspondence with Beck?

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Highwind89
01/19/12 5:48:00 PM
#157:


Ron Paul is insane. Why do people like this guy? He has no redeeming qualities.
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Wanglicious
01/19/12 5:48:00 PM
#158:


man. boo'd for the golden rule then cheered for wanting to bring troops back and not do another war.

that has to be the strangest minute i've seen in over a month.

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SmartMuffin
01/19/12 5:50:00 PM
#159:


You ever get any kind of response from your correspondence with Beck?

Nah, he gets about 4,000 e-mails a day. I don't suspect anyone ever read it.

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Wanglicious
01/19/12 5:50:00 PM
#160:


he's less crazy than the other guys but romney.
and romney, who said the bailout to the auto industry was worse than just killing them 3 years ago, is now saying he had that idea.

(hint: the bailout is probably obama's biggest victory.)

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SmartMuffin
01/19/12 9:57:00 PM
#161:


(hint: the bailout is probably obama's biggest victory.)

Except for the majority of the country vehemently opposing it...

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metroid composite
01/19/12 10:50:00 PM
#162:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/19/rick-perry-drops-out-2012-_n_1214032.html

Brokeback Mountain Voldemort drops out of the presidential race. Endorses...Newt Gingrich.

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SmartMuffin
01/20/12 4:19:00 PM
#163:


So, the government is about to to attempt to enforce American laws overseas. But no, don't worry, I'm sure Obama absolutely doesn't support this *rolls eyes*

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/us-drug-policy-war-congress_n_998993.html

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SmartMuffin
01/20/12 5:27:00 PM
#164:


Let's compare:

http://www.mercurynews.com/presidentelect/ci_19782823

to

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/01/19/over-1000-supporters-greet-ron-paul-in-south-carolina/

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paperwarior
01/20/12 5:41:00 PM
#165:


Because who cares about censorship of the Internet when the government can throw you in jail for no reason for as long as they want with no charges whatsoever.

I believe this principle is known as "the lesser of two evils."

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red sox 777
01/20/12 8:17:00 PM
#166:


So, the government is about to to attempt to enforce American laws overseas. But no, don't worry, I'm sure Obama absolutely doesn't support this *rolls eyes*

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/us-drug-policy-war-congress_n_998993.html


So....conspiracy not to commit a crime, is what they'll be charging people with? Or thoughtcrime. I'm fairly confident this would get struck down as unconstitutional.

Also, apparently Newt Gingrich proposed a bill to give the death penalty for marijuana back in the 1990s.

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Mr Lasastryke
01/21/12 3:59:00 AM
#167:


Glenn Beck declared that Paul "sounds a lot like Osama Bin Laden"

...are you still a "huge fan" now?

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metroid composite
01/21/12 6:50:00 PM
#168:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/21/south-carolina-primary-results-live

Fourth :(

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SmartMuffin
01/21/12 7:17:00 PM
#169:


Yeah, I'd say this definitely qualifies as a disappointment. The die-hards are claiming that anything that prolongs the race and kills the whole "Romney is inevitable" notion is a plus for Ron Paul, but I'm not so sure...

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SmartMuffin
01/21/12 8:03:00 PM
#170:


That being said, is anyone still denying that the MSM is completely and totally biased?

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red sox 777
01/21/12 9:07:00 PM
#171:


Last place is definitely a disappointment.

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paperwarior
01/21/12 9:09:00 PM
#172:


I'll vote for him if it'll make you less pissy. Actually, it won't, and I'll vote for him anyway if there's any way to do so in the general election.

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Icehawk
01/21/12 9:09:00 PM
#173:


who cares about twitter mentions, the media mentions are a lot more important muffin tbh

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dethfdddddh
01/21/12 9:11:00 PM
#174:


red sox 777 posted...
So, the government is about to to attempt to enforce American laws overseas. But no, don't worry, I'm sure Obama absolutely doesn't support this *rolls eyes*

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/us-drug-policy-war-congress_n_998993.html


seriously what is up with this lamar smith fellow

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paperwarior
01/21/12 9:12:00 PM
#175:


He's a bastard.

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red sox 777
01/21/12 9:17:00 PM
#176:


People of Texas, you need to get working on voting this guy out of office. He's anti-freedom, and as a Christian Scientist (the religion, not a scientist who is Christian), he's not even Christian. Doesn't that make him the antithesis of what Texas stands for?

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redrocket
01/21/12 9:34:00 PM
#177:


SmartMuffin posted...
Yeah, I'd say this definitely qualifies as a disappointment. The die-hards are claiming that anything that prolongs the race and kills the whole "Romney is inevitable" notion is a plus for Ron Paul, but I'm not so sure...

Is it really a surprise though? We all knew he was boned in the deep South.

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SmartMuffin
01/21/12 9:41:00 PM
#178:


From: Icehawk | #173
who cares about twitter mentions, the media mentions are a lot more important muffin tbh


twitter represents what the average american cares about

the point is that the media is purposely ignoring paul despite the fact that people are more interested in him than anyone else

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metroid composite
01/21/12 9:49:00 PM
#179:


redrocket posted...
Is it really a surprise though? We all knew he was boned in the deep South.

It is.

Polls just two days ago were showing him squarely in third, and what we were hearing from the Paul campaign was that after their ads they got so many donations from South Carolina that they were hiring extra people to mobilize their ground game. So...a strong third place finish was kind-of expected.

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red sox 777
01/21/12 9:51:00 PM
#180:


I was expecting/hoping that the Republican tendency to fall in line would result in the Santorum voters defecting to Gingrich and Paul getting 3rd. But while the falling in line did happen pretty well, Santorum still held onto 3rd.

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SmartMuffin
01/21/12 9:53:00 PM
#181:


I'm kinda torn as to what to root for actually.

I'm realistic enough to understand that the odds of Paul actually getting the nomination are VERY small.

On the one hand, if everyone else stays in, SFF kicks in and Paul will pick up more delegates and his chance to win increases slightly.

On the other hand, if everyone else drops out and it becomes Paul/Romney, it forces the debate to a much greater extent and allows a clearer and sharper contrast between those who believe in freedom and neocons.

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foolm0ron
01/21/12 9:56:00 PM
#182:


I thought the south was supposed to be conservative. Wouldn't they like his super-conservatism? Or does the fact that he's not all AMERKUH all the time hurt him?

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red sox 777
01/21/12 10:00:00 PM
#183:


On the other hand, if everyone else drops out and it becomes Paul/Romney, it forces the debate to a much greater extent and allows a clearer and sharper contrast between those who believe in freedom and neocons.

That's not going to happen after tonight. Gingrich isn't going to drop out for a long time, and if Santorum drops out, that makes it worse for Paul because he's going to get last by a large margin in all but the bluest states. Better to keep it a 4-way race at least for now.

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foolm0ron
01/21/12 10:00:00 PM
#184:


I think what happened in SC is that RP had a very strong core fanbase that gave him tons of money and such, but all the non-core fans and general public were probably too easily swayed by the mainstream media... why else would they vote for ****ing Gingrich

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red sox 777
01/21/12 10:01:00 PM
#185:


I thought the south was supposed to be conservative. Wouldn't they like his super-conservatism? Or does the fact that he's not all AMERKUH all the time hurt him?

The South isn't really conservative. They keep calling us not conservative, but we're not the ones who voted for Democrats for 100 years! That shows what they really care about.

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foolm0ron
01/21/12 10:05:00 PM
#186:


From: SmartMuffin | #181
On the other hand, if everyone else drops out and it becomes Paul/Romney, it forces the debate to a much greater extent and allows a clearer and sharper contrast between those who believe in freedom and neocons.


This is why I can't wait for the VA primary

I think after super tuesday, we will definitely know for sure whether RP can get the nom or not.

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SmartMuffin
01/22/12 5:40:00 PM
#187:


I wonder why this audio will never be played on Glenn Beck's show...



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SmartMuffin
01/22/12 9:30:00 PM
#188:


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redrocket
01/23/12 8:29:00 AM
#189:


SmartMuffin posted...
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What are those graphs actually showing? They aren't labeled...

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SmartMuffin
01/23/12 8:40:00 AM
#190:


military spending

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redrocket
01/23/12 8:59:00 AM
#191:


well then

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SmartMuffin
01/23/12 9:43:00 AM
#192:


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71818.html

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SmartMuffin
01/23/12 3:02:00 PM
#193:


http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1409873242001/

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SmartMuffin
01/24/12 4:58:00 PM
#194:


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SmartMuffin
01/24/12 5:21:00 PM
#195:


I'm no fan of Mitt Romney, but this is relevant.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/19/media-myth-debunked-97-percent-americans-pay-less-romneys-15-percent#ixzz1jumRnOlM

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foolm0ron
01/24/12 5:30:00 PM
#196:


we are the 97%
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red sox 777
01/24/12 7:03:00 PM
#197:


That seems kind of hard to believe. The 97% anyway. I'd think pretty much all doctors, lawyers, and engineers pay a higher tax rate than that.

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SmartMuffin
01/24/12 7:05:00 PM
#198:


From: red sox 777 | #197
That seems kind of hard to believe. The 97% anyway. I'd think pretty much all doctors, lawyers, and engineers pay a higher tax rate than that.


Remember, it's an effective rate. That means after write-offs, deductions, etc.

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red sox 777
01/24/12 7:12:00 PM
#199:


Remember, it's an effective rate. That means after write-offs, deductions, etc.

I know, but.....97%? 15% isn't very high at all. I'm pretty sure my parents have paid more than that for like 2 decades, and they're definitely not rich. Having more investment income than earned income doesn't even help this, because it'll draw you closer to 15% but won't get you under it. I dunno.

Either way, I wouldn't have been surprised at all if it was 80% or even 90%. And it probably won't hurt Romney much, because people are well aware that they pay a lower rate than him.

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red sox 777
01/24/12 7:22:00 PM
#200:


Incidentally, Citizens United wanted to release a film they made called Hillary: The Movie attacking her during the Democratic Primaries in 2008, and that's what the case was about. I wonder if they were stealth Obama supporters if a Republican couldn't get elected that year.

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