Board 8 > Even if you still like Pokemon, can you at least admit that it's for children?

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User728
01/06/12 12:00:00 PM
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I'm not saying you CAN'T like it. I'm just saying that it is a very kiddie game, obviously intended for children. I know some people, especially those with Peter Pan syndrome, actually like the game. But can we admit that it's a children's game and is very kiddie? Look at the evidence:

1. Targeted toward children (especially evident from the anime)
2. Extremely easy and child friendly...no real challenge
3. Very simple battle system...no real effort put into it (kids won't notice that)
4. Only real appeal is a collection factor which always sucks kids in
5. Cute little animals
6. Childish dialogue
7. Children's lessons to be learned in the anime.
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GANON1025
01/06/12 12:01:00 PM
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Yeah, just admit it guys. No one's accusing anyone of anything here.

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:03:00 PM
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From: User728 | #001
Very simple battle system...no real effort put into it (kids won't notice that)


This isn't true. Just look to the ultra competitive metagame for proof.
I would say that the target audience is children, but that it's made to appeal to a broader range of folks.

Your list is very childish, however. Evidence for it being a children's game:

Targeted toward children


ORLY??

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User728
01/06/12 12:04:00 PM
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From: special_sauce | #003
[quoted text]

This isn't true. Just look to the ultra competitive metagame for proof.
I would say that the target audience is children, but that it's made to appeal to a broader range of folks.

Your list is very childish, however. Evidence for it being a children's game:
[quoted text]

ORLY??


There is nothing competitive about it. You just collect pokemon and then beat the game really. It's appealing to children. And what is childish about my list?
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Ace_Killjoy
01/06/12 12:05:00 PM
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I want Pokemon Fallout version already, dang it.

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BlackDra90n
01/06/12 12:08:00 PM
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Competitive Pokemon actually gets pretty intense. It's a simple battle system but theres a lot that can be done with it.

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Ainoxi
01/06/12 12:10:00 PM
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From: User728 | #004
There is nothing competitive about it. You just collect pokemon and then beat the game really. It's appealing to children. And what is childish about my list?



Here is my evidence that the defendant is a murder.
1. The defendant is a murder

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User728
01/06/12 12:10:00 PM
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From: BlackDra90n | #006
Competitive Pokemon actually gets pretty intense. It's a simple battle system but theres a lot that can be done with it.


It's competitive for children...not for teens or adults.
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User728
01/06/12 12:10:00 PM
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From: Ainoxi | #007
Here is my evidence that the defendant is a murder.
1. The defendant is a murder


How can a defendant literally be a murder? That makes no sense. Additionally, you are ignoring that I listed 7 items.
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BlackDra90n
01/06/12 12:11:00 PM
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User728 posted...
From: BlackDra90n | #006
Competitive Pokemon actually gets pretty intense. It's a simple battle system but theres a lot that can be done with it.
It's competitive for children...not for teens or adults.


I take it you've never been on Smogon then.

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User728
01/06/12 12:13:00 PM
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From: BlackDra90n | #010
I take it you've never been on Smogon then.


No...but I am not a child anymore, so that's not really fair to point out.
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Ainoxi
01/06/12 12:13:00 PM
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From: User728 | #009
How can a defendant literally be a murder? That makes no sense. Additionally, you are ignoring that I listed 7 items.



Erhh, murderER.
I don't really care about the argument, just pointing out how silly it is that your first listed item for 'proof' of your argument is your argument.
Woo circular logic!

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AlecTrevelyan006
01/06/12 12:14:00 PM
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I only play mature games like Halo and Modern Warfare that are designed for other mature 13 year olds like me.

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User728
01/06/12 12:14:00 PM
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From: Ainoxi | #012
Erhh, murderER.
I don't really care about the argument, just pointing out how silly it is that your first listed item for 'proof' of your argument is your argument.
Woo circular logic!


And the other 6 arguments?
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Ainoxi
01/06/12 12:15:00 PM
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From: User728 | #014
And the other 6 arguments?



"I don't really care about the argument"
Reading sure is hard work. :/

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User728
01/06/12 12:16:00 PM
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From: Ainoxi | #015
"I don't really care about the argument"
Reading sure is hard work. :/


But your whole point is to make my argument look terrible...but then you ignored ~85.71% of my argument. Nice try.
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The_Djoker
01/06/12 12:20:00 PM
#17:


Pokemon sucks now. It was good during the gameboy era but cmon. That formula is just dead to me, i can barely play a pokemon game now for more than an hour. They need to really shake that series up.

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Emporer_Kazbar
01/06/12 12:20:00 PM
#18:


From: User728 | #016
But your whole point is to make my argument look terrible


Who said that was his point?

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:20:00 PM
#19:


http://www.smogon.com/

all of the over 600 pokemon have a very detailed analysis of what their strengths and weaknesses are
probably hundreds of thousands of dollars are awarded in competitive pokemon tournaments annually. If it's "for kids," why don't you go out and win all these tournaments? You don't even have to catch or train your own Pokemon, you just pick their stats and moves, so don't say it's too time consuming or something

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Viktor Vaughn
01/06/12 12:23:00 PM
#20:


another five star thread by illustrious gamefaqs forums poster user728

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:24:00 PM
#21:


I wish we had a like button so I could like that

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User728
01/06/12 12:28:00 PM
#22:


From: Emporer_Kazbar | #018
Who said that was his point?


No one. It was implied, not expressly stated.

From: special_sauce | #019
http://www.smogon.com/

all of the over 600 pokemon have a very detailed analysis of what their strengths and weaknesses are
probably hundreds of thousands of dollars are awarded in competitive pokemon tournaments annually. If it's "for kids," why don't you go out and win all these tournaments? You don't even have to catch or train your own Pokemon, you just pick their stats and moves, so don't say it's too time consuming or something


Children's stats? Cool...?

From: Viktor Vaughn | #020
another five star thread by illustrious gamefaqs forums poster user728


Indeed.
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McMoogle
01/06/12 12:29:00 PM
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Viktor Vaughn posted...
another five star thread by illustrious gamefaqs forums poster user728

Between this and the Mitt topic, I came in here to post basically the same thing. Keep those topics coming buddy!

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Ace_Killjoy
01/06/12 12:30:00 PM
#24:


At least give me Pokemon x Fist of the North Star.

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charmander6000
01/06/12 12:30:00 PM
#25:


You're such a kid.

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VincentLauw
01/06/12 12:30:00 PM
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From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #013
I only play mature games like Halo and Modern Warfare that are designed for other mature 13 year olds like me.


Vincent likes this post.

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tereziWright
01/06/12 12:32:00 PM
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Why do you people even humor him?

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WellThoughtName
01/06/12 12:33:00 PM
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StifledSilence
01/06/12 12:33:00 PM
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User728 posted...
I'm not saying you CAN'T like it. I'm just saying that it is a very kiddie game, obviously intended for children. I know some people, especially those with Peter Pan syndrome, actually like the game. But can we admit that it's a children's game and is very kiddie? Look at the evidence:


1. Targeted toward children (especially evident from the anime)
Would you say the Super Mario Brothers Super Show is anything like the video game its based upon? Anime =/= games

2. Extremely easy and child friendly...no real challenge
Have you played any of the Pokemon games before? I wouldn't say it's overly hard, but catching legendaries can be downright frustrating sometimes. Also, trainers at the end of the game (Elite Four, etc) can be pretty challenging to beat.

3. Very simple battle system...no real effort put into it (kids won't notice that)
You could argue the same about first person shooters rated M. How difficult is it to point a crosshair at an enemy and fire? Not very. The same could be said about games like Dragon Quest. The battle system is your typical RPG turn based system. There are options on the menu. You pick one. It doesn't mean it's kiddy stuff or has no effort put into it. It just means not everything has to be complicated to be fun.

4. Only real appeal is a collection factor which always sucks kids in
Fans of RPGs also enjoy this game.

5. Cute little animals
So the Dragon Quest series is only for kids now too? How about Final Fantasy?

6. Childish dialogue
Again, have you played any of them? Sure, the main characters are always kids, but the enemies don't coddle them and give them toys. They want to take over the world and other crazy stuff. Sounds the same as most video game dialog honestly.

7. Children's lessons to be learned in the anime.
Repeating yourself here. See point #1 for details.

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:33:00 PM
#30:


"You people?"

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VincentLauw
01/06/12 12:34:00 PM
#31:


From: tereziWright | #027
Why do you people even humor him?


Because if it weren't for these dumb topics with marvelous posts that aren't from User278 himself this already half dead board would be buried right now.

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VincentLauw
01/06/12 12:34:00 PM
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User728 whatever

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:35:00 PM
#33:


From: VincentLauw | #031
Because if it weren't for these dumb topics with marvelous posts that aren't from User278 himself this already half dead board would be buried right now.


Special_Sauce dislikes this post

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VincentLauw
01/06/12 12:36:00 PM
#34:


From: special_sauce | #033
Special_Sauce dislikes this post


Vincent dislikes the fact that W_C calls himself Special_Sauce


you are W_C right

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:36:00 PM
#35:


(or rather he dislikes that the board is half dead)

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special_sauce
01/06/12 12:40:00 PM
#36:


From: VincentLauw | #034
Vincent dislikes the fact that W_C calls himself Special_Sauce


you are W_C right


No

A couple years ago I was "Me_Pie_Three"

But those days are long gone. Just remember when voting for best new user:

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ctesjbuvf
01/06/12 12:40:00 PM
#37:


It's main appeal is children, but it's for everyone. Honestly your arguments are pretty bad. You're just answering everything people say, by saying "yeah, for children" or something like that.

VincentLauw posted...
From: special_sauce | #033
Special_Sauce dislikes this post
Vincent dislikes the fact that W_C calls himself Special_Sauce


you are W_C right


I believe he's Me_Pie_Three. Sig kinda backs that up too.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
01/06/12 12:40:00 PM
#38:


Its meant for kids yeah.

Who cares though.

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ctesjbuvf
01/06/12 12:41:00 PM
#39:


ninja'd by nine goddamn seconds

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User728
01/06/12 12:48:00 PM
#40:


From: McMoogle | #023
Between this and the Mitt topic, I came in here to post basically the same thing. Keep those topics coming buddy!


lol thanks...but I've got to go. I will be back later...maybe with more good topics!

From: charmander6000 | #025
You're such a kid.


Me?


And I will get to Stifled later. But yeah...Pokemon is for babies.
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mnkboy907
01/06/12 12:52:00 PM
#41:


From: User728 | #040
But yeah...Pokemon is for babies.


Aha! Can't even keep your story straight. First you claim Pokemon is for children, and now you claim it's for babies! Children and babies are two very different things! And don't you know that babies can't even play videogames? They're babies, their hands are too small and their brains are not developed enough. Try thinking logically next time!

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GANON1025
01/06/12 12:53:00 PM
#42:


Why are you all getting so upset about liking something for children. It's fine, no one is saying otherwise!

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VincentLauw
01/06/12 12:55:00 PM
#43:


oh right Me_Pie_Three

SAME THING

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StealThisSheen
01/06/12 1:49:00 PM
#44:


This has to be the worst trolling attempt I've seen in a long while, and yet people are still replying.

This is B8.



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special_sauce
01/06/12 1:53:00 PM
#45:


From: VincentLauw | #043
oh right Me_Pie_Three

SAME THING


nuh uh

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MZero11
01/06/12 1:55:00 PM
#46:


From: User728 | #008
It's competitive for children...not for teens or adults.


lmao no. There are teens/adults that take Pokemon tournaments very seriously.


1. Targeted toward children (especially evident from the anime)
Support your argument with your argument

2. Extremely easy and child friendly...no real challenge
Easy =/= Kids game. Almost every M-rated shooting game is easy than Pokemon.

3. Very simple battle system...no real effort put into it (kids won't notice that)
Most early RPGs....

4. Only real appeal is a collection factor which always sucks kids in
Yes, because only kids collect things. It's not like adults collect stamps or anything! This ones good.

5. Cute little animals
Ever heard of Conker's Bad Fur Day? How about the Woodland Critters on South Park?

6. Childish dialogue
No? Just because there isn't a cuss word every line (Call of Duty) doesn't mean it's childish. There's crazy fools trying to take over the world, and then you have the antagonist of White/Black... adults would be easily confused by the way he talks.

7. Children's lessons to be learned in the anime.
Lessons apply to all people!

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Haste_2
01/06/12 2:01:00 PM
#47:


Its marketed primarily to children, end of story. For children only, though? Nah. (the show, though, I would say so)

#1 and #7 only apply to the Anime, and #5 and #6 are partially valid.; obviously there are no mature themes and the art is enjoyed most by kids. The games are not hard, but I say they are more difficult than, say, most Final Fantasies.

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