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RevolverSaro
12/26/11 5:07:00 PM
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Hint: It's a recent movie series

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Some_Character
12/26/11 5:08:00 PM
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Would Indiana Jones count?

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RevolverSaro
12/26/11 5:09:00 PM
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It would, but its not.

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RevolverSaro
12/26/11 5:10:00 PM
#5:


Nio, Twilight would be something like Poop > > > > > > 1> 2 > 3 > 4

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Sorozone
12/26/11 5:11:00 PM
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Pirate of the Caribbean?

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RevolverSaro
12/26/11 5:15:00 PM
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well I guess that was easy

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ShadowHalo17
12/26/11 5:17:00 PM
#8:


I haven't seen 4, but I agree with your ranking anyway. First movie is really the only one that matters.

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Sorozone
12/26/11 5:17:00 PM
#9:


Your hint helped too much. I just thought of a recent series where a bunch of people said the 4th wasn't any good. >_>

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GenesisSaga
12/26/11 6:44:00 PM
#10:


Oh my, no...

1 >>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 2 > 3

At World's End was garbage. Dead Man's Chest is only a slight step above. And for all its failings (like introducing what's supposed to be an intimidating villain and having him go nowhere), On.Stranger Tides is at least watchable. You literally could not pay me to sit through AWE a fourth time. First time I watched it I got confused and was not impressed. Second time I fell asleep. Third time I stomached through it and it had not gotten any better since the first time I watched it. After that I gave up on it.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 6:45:00 PM
#11:


1 > 4 > 3 > 2

All great, though. I got the complete blu-ray box-set and it came in the Dead Man's Chest.

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FL81
12/26/11 6:46:00 PM
#12:


First one was amazing, second one sucked, and I fell asleep during the third.

I haven't seen the fourth.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 6:47:00 PM
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I agree with the ranking. Jack didn't have much to do in the 4th movie, his character was kind of frozen and aimless, plus the supporting cast wasn't as good. Still an okay flick though, pirates arrr

(By cast I mean characters, of course Ian McShane is hella talented)

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 6:49:00 PM
#14:


Jack was "frozen" because Jack had already experienced his character growth over the previous movies. He is who he is. That's not going to change by the 4th go around.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 6:51:00 PM
#15:


Does Jack actually need any more character development at this point?

His character arc essentially ended with the original trilogy. Now he's just Jack being Jack.

Which is good enough for me.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 6:52:00 PM
#16:


Leon, I just said that jeeze.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 6:53:00 PM
#17:


Yeah but you said it dumbly

Whoa, "dumbly" is a word

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 6:56:00 PM
#18:


I said it the exact same way.

So I guess that makes you dumb, too.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 6:57:00 PM
#19:


If by "exact same way," you mean "generally said the same thing but more dumbly" then sure

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:10:00 PM
#20:


LeondumbFour

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insanity domain
12/26/11 7:15:00 PM
#21:


This topic isn't about Rocky?

I am disappoint.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:21:00 PM
#22:


His character just didn't have anything interesting to do. Plus if his focus in that movie was getting laid at least that'd make sense, but that wasn't even there. He just kinda wandered aimlessly and not as entertainingly as usual call me crazy.

And hey now, Rocky has 6 movies and 4 is cooler than 2.

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GranzonEx
12/26/11 7:23:00 PM
#23:


Good thing this wasn't what I thought it was.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:24:00 PM
#24:


Scream movies are totally 1 > 4 > 2 > 3 I'd say.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:26:00 PM
#25:


His character just didn't have anything interesting to do.

Except he did. He had plenty of interesting things to do throughout the movie.

Plus if his focus in that movie was getting laid at least that'd make sense

No, it wouldn't make sense and it'd be a completely awful idea. It's been shown throughout the series that Jack's swagger is slightly misplaced, such as being slapped by the wenches, Elizabeth's indifference towards him, etc.

He just kinda wandered aimlessly and not as entertainingly as usual call me crazy.

Except he wasn't. Quite the opposite, he was being railroaded down a path he wasn't completely comfortable with. You can see his general uneasiness with the situation throughout, compared to previous movies where he goes the way he feels until someone gets wind of his little plan. It's a completely different approach to his character.

Think about it, the free wheeling Jack Sparrow now tethered to an undesirable path. He has no real chance to reason/trick his way out the situation.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:33:00 PM
#26:


TheRock1525 posted...
His character just didn't have anything interesting to do.

Except he did. He had plenty of interesting things to do throughout the movie.


Yes, we have different opinions on how interesting or not interesting the movie is, but hey that's more interesting than the movie maybe.

As for Jack's lack of swagger or whatnot, he could've gotten laid but he's like eeey I don't want to, so if his character has a sex drive it's very confusing. His motivations are pretty lacking in the movie in general, he's a lost man lost in a pointless script, but that's just my take.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:33:00 PM
#27:


Jack has to fight his clone. Who is a woman, and his former lover, who was about to become a nun.

That's pretty damn interesting! Maybe not entertaining to you, but definitely interesting!

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:34:00 PM
#28:


They had a cliche romantic screwball comedy back and forth thing that went nowhere, I mean to me that's not great but that's me.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:35:00 PM
#29:


As for Jack's lack of swagger or whatnot, he could've gotten laid but he's like eeey I don't want to, so if his character has a sex drive it's very confusing.

Because, as he says himself, he actually CARES for Angelica. his feelings for her are completely different, as he routinely shows concern about her well-being throughout the movie. That's completely different from getting down with a random wench.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:39:00 PM
#30:


I'm referring to when she wants to get jiggy and he's like I'm outta here son. Ha but anyways thats just one point on how Jack is not nearly as Jack as usual in part 4, he's like family friendly Jack or something.

But I think our Siskel and Ebert different takes on the film make for a good show.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:41:00 PM
#31:


I'm confused, what scene are you talking about? Their final interaction towards the end? Cause I'll mark spoilers and explain that situation to you.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:42:00 PM
#32:


Please don't bother.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:43:00 PM
#33:


I will definitely bother!

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:47:00 PM
#34:


Okay, you get how the idea that you're gonna explain the plot of a pretty simple family film to me is a bit annoying right? You obviously like it and aren't questioning the plot, and you're like hey it's perfectly explainable why Jack wouldn't wanna get laid in that situation. Okay. I think we saved us some time.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 7:49:00 PM
#35:


It actually is easily explainable.

But yeah, no reason to bother if you don't really care.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:49:00 PM
#36:


Yes Leon, I understand how the plot of Pirates 4 is easily explainable. I find it to be weak and the motivations to be bla blahdmas

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 7:50:00 PM
#37:


It's only annoying if you choose to allow it to be annoying, as you are not bound to this conversation, and are free to leave this topic at any time. I am simply offering rebuttals to your opinions on the matter. Hell, I can offer up a multiple post explanation on several issues through out the movie, and you can choose to simply ignore it.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 7:50:00 PM
#38:


Which is why I said there's no reason to bother because you're not actually interested in listening.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:55:00 PM
#39:


Okay, if you two gentleman accept that I fully understand the plot of the film Pirates 4, and simply find it hackneyed and weak especially for our protagonist, you'd get why I'm not interested in having it "explained".

But sure offer your opinions on how Jack is not in fact a buttmonkey in the film if you want, that'd be more interesting.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 7:56:00 PM
#40:


No thanks, not worth wasting my time over.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 7:57:00 PM
#41:


Oooh serve returned, that pop tart burns.

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 7:59:00 PM
#42:


Yeah, I'm not really trying to go for a burn, but whatever.

"I've already made up my mind on the matter and you're not going to convince me otherwise."

Not sure why I'm going to bother wasting my time posting counterarguments for someone who actually isn't interested in listening to them.

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YetAnothrShadow
12/26/11 7:59:00 PM
#43:


Pirates 3 is almost as bad as Transformers 2.

Almost.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 8:01:00 PM
#44:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
Pirates 3 is almost as bad as Transformers 2.

Almost.


No, not anywhere near close.

For one thing, one movie has Shia Lebouf and the other doesn't.

That's like 5 standard deviations of difference alone.

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YetAnothrShadow
12/26/11 8:06:00 PM
#45:


When I say almost I mean more like.

Every movie that's existed>>>>>>>>>>>> Pirates 3 >x a large number> Transformers 2.

Pretty much the closest any movie has gotten to Transformers 2

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 8:07:00 PM
#46:


Well, I don't particularly care if I persuade someone to think the way I do or not.

But when someone essentially throws out a "Don't bother, don't care," then I am happy to oblige.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 8:07:00 PM
#47:


LeonhartFour posted...
"I've already made up my mind on the matter and you're not going to convince me otherwise."

That could describe yourself as well, or anybody, nobody's opinion is gonna be changed by this kind of pointless thing yes. If you approach in a better way it could work as a conversation, but you really aren't gelling with what I'm putting down here.

If you think what we'd be talking about is explaining Jack's motivations in the film, then yes I agree that it could easily be explained. I'm not saying the flimsy plot doesn't explain everything. But honestly I don't feel like you two even get my complaint is if you think explanation of the plot is where to take the conversation.

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Psycho_Kenshin
12/26/11 8:08:00 PM
#48:


Yes, don't bother to put what's on wikipedia about Pirates 4 on gamefaqs. On the other hand, if you can approach conversation in something other than "you're wrong let me explain", which is hilarious in this instance, well yeah.

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TheRock1525
12/26/11 8:09:00 PM
#49:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
When I say almost I mean more like.

Every movie that's existed>>>>>>>>>>>> Pirates 3 >x a large number> Transformers 2.

Pretty much the closest any movie has gotten to Transformers 2


You must not have seen very many movies!

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LeonhartFour
12/26/11 8:11:00 PM
#50:


Yeah, I wasn't planning on doing either, but thanks for proving my point anyway.

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