Board 8 > Update on that Zelda timeline

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If you really want to get technical, LttP and the "Great War" were made and written in canon before Ocarina of Time, so OoT and the stuff stemming from that are the TRUE "what-if" stories!

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see why this is dumb

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Okay guys, no, wait, I think this can still make sense.

Left universe would be the one where ocarina link never time travels.
Middle one would be the one ocarina link returns after defeating ganondorf.
Right one would be the one where ocarina link defeats ganondorf before leaving.

Still don't see why there has to be three... I feel like the one on the right should be merged with one of the other two.

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Alright, this three timeline thing makes perfect sense to me and I will explain how it fits together in my mind. I didn't read the entire topic so I don't know if someone else posed the same reasoning, but here we go.

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During the course of the Ocarina of Time, there are four times Link must travel through the past in order to progress through the game. This effectively creates five separate timelines (each time travel action moves Link to an entirely new one).

Let's start with the two obvious ones and then explain the three others:

1. Link defeats Ganondorf and disappears. This is the timeline that is devoid of Link immediately following the defeat of Ganon because Zelda sends him away to a different timeline where he can live out his childhood. This timeline explains why the opening sequence of WW says the Hero of Time mysteriously disappeared and didn't come to the aid of Hyrule when Ganon attacked once again.

2. Link is sent back to his past to relive his childhood. With the knowledge of his future defeat of Ganon, Young Link informs Young Zelda and Ganon is arrested before he has a chance to spring the attack. Link then goes on to experience the MM events.

3. The first time Link pulls the Master Sword out of the Stone. This action removes Link from that specific timeline. Link is gone forever and Ganon is free to do whatever he chooses. Hence the left timeline.

4. Link is unable to conquer the Spirit Temple. He puts the sword back in the pedestal and is removed from the current timeline. Ganon would remain undefeated.

5. Link pulls out the Master Sword after accomplishing what he needs to in the Spirit Temple. Same outcome as number 3.

Timelines 3, 4, and 5 are all abandoned after Link travels to a different timeline. In each of these scenarios, Ganon wins and Hyrule is defeated. The only difference from timelines numbered 4 and 3/5 is that in timeline 4, the temples up to the Spirit Temple are conquered. This does not matter in the grand scheme of things. Therefore, timelines 3, 4, and 5 can be combined. Thus leaving the three timelines illustrated in the diagram.

I realize that it may be necessary to travel back and forth in time to complete the Shadow Temple/Well of Truth, but it would lead to two abandoned timelines equivalent to those explained above. It's also possible to beat the game without the Lens of Truth, but that's beside the point.

I highly disagree with the theory that the left timeline is caused by a Game Over. Game Overs should always be non-canonical.



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From: StealThisSheen | #012
It makes more sense as a timeline that Link left behind when time traveling and never returned to, thus leaving Ganon to "win."

Or, you know, I could have just wrote this one sentence.

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Except that the people who are have translated it are saying it directly says that that timeline is caused by "The Hero of Time is Defeated."

Personally I think this can still be the case without it being a Game Over situation. Suppose that child Link never receives the Master Sword and thus never "time travels;" eventually Ganon would defeat him in that timeline.

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From: tyder21 | #053
I highly disagree with the theory that the left timeline is caused by a Game Over. Game Overs should always be non-canonical.

but that's what nintendo says.

and if you want to get technical. I don't think that most of the time traveling in OoT actually creates new timelines. because every time you go back in time and change something in the past it gets reflected in the future, which must mean you are probably just going back and forth on the same timeline. The only time when an alternate timeline was created was in the end when link was sent back in time and the sacred realm was closed keeping ganondorf from taking over hyrule at all.

at least that's what it looked like to me. but if nintendo creates a timeline like this and with the weird business that time travel is in the first place, I'm sure they can justify the hero of time creating multiple weird timelines as well, so whatever.

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From: WazzupGenius00 | #055
Except that the people who are have translated it are saying it directly says that that timeline is caused by "The Hero of Time is Defeated."

That's incredibly obnoxious. I really hope that's not actually what Nintendo thinks.

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I've read a similar theory elsewhere, except going forward in time doesn't make any new timelines. It's still the same timeline until he has to go back to the past and alter it. Link then cannot return to the old future. Jumping forward in time puts him in a new future. And all the abandoned futures have the same outcome. Simple as that. Honestly, I'm more concerned about how it leads up to A Link to the Past.

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