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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 8:23:00 PM
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Squall Championship Performance Edition

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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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red sox 777
12/15/11 8:29:00 PM
#2:


Squall is going to show us the record for biggest round 4 blowout ever. And it will be a championship performance that answers Link's championship performance today.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 8:30:00 PM
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Cloud can't put up a championship winning performance here.

He can put up a championship losing performance here though.

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_Regaro_
12/15/11 8:31:00 PM
#4:


saveUs.Seifer

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Xuxon
12/15/11 8:35:00 PM
#5:


I would say if there's no tripling I'm switching to Link/Ganon in the oracle. Otherwise I might be too stubborn.
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ZFS
12/15/11 8:37:00 PM
#6:


Championship performance that Link will shut down tbqh

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red sox 777
12/15/11 8:42:00 PM
#7:


I want 80% from Cloud here. At the minimum, he has to break the record Link just set today. And yeah, if he can't get 75%, it's time to throw in the towel.

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creativename
12/15/11 8:51:00 PM
#8:


From: LeonhartFour | #003
Cloud can't put up a championship winning performance here.

He can put up a championship losing performance here though.


Yeah, pretty much. No matter how high he gets you can write it off to massive SFF.

But if he can't match Link's performance on Mega Man then FF7 is in trouble. Link/Mega Man was likely SFF as well, but there should be at least as much SFF in FF7 vs. FF8, and Squall/Seifer and Mega Man/Wily are probably comparable strength-wise.

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EmDubyaSee
12/15/11 8:52:00 PM
#9:


From: red sox 777 | #007
I want 80% from Cloud here. At the minimum, he has to break the record Link just set today. And yeah, if he can't get 75%, it's time to throw in the towel.




You mean all FOUR of them, right?



Bow down to the 8 time Champion.


It's the LAW

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red sox 777
12/15/11 8:55:00 PM
#10:


You mean all FOUR of them, right?

All four of them? I'm missing what they are, sorry.

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EmDubyaSee
12/15/11 8:56:00 PM
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From: red sox 777 | #010
You mean all FOUR of them, right?

All four of them? I'm missing what they are, sorry.




Highest percentage in:

Round 4 match
Elite 8 match
Non Region/Division match
Third to last round

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Xuxon
12/15/11 8:58:00 PM
#12:


Those are all the same thing <_<
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red sox 777
12/15/11 8:58:00 PM
#13:


Highest percentage in:

Round 4 match
Elite 8 match
Non Region/Division match
Third to last round


But but but......those are all the same thing. In 64-entrant brackets anyway. Well, Cloud's gotta break all those records tonight if he wants to win next round. Today's match I am very impressed with.

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th3l3fty
12/15/11 8:58:00 PM
#14:


technically they aren't, thanks to 32/128 entrant contests

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_Regaro_
12/15/11 8:59:00 PM
#15:


From: EmDubyaSee | #011
Third to last round


Elite 8 match


These two are the same definition, at least

The other two can apply to matches that aren't the quarterfinals too, though

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EmDubyaSee
12/15/11 8:59:00 PM
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From: Xuxon | #012
Those are all the same thing <_<




In this tournament they obviously are. But no, they are not.


For instance we've had 32 person tournament before, as well as 128, so round 4 is not always the same.
We've had 4 regions, and 8 regions, so again, not the same all the time.
The Elite 8 in 4 ways was the Semi Finals, where as in standard it is the Quarterfinals.


In other words, no.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:00:00 PM
#17:


Nobody cares.

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Kotetsu534
12/15/11 9:01:00 PM
#18:


Let's mosey.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:01:00 PM
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Vote Accepted

Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 52.63% 10
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 47.37% 9
TOTAL VOTES 19

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PartOfYourWorld
12/15/11 9:01:00 PM
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Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 67.74% 21
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 32.26% 10
TOTAL VOTES 31

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Xuxon
12/15/11 9:01:00 PM
#21:


Third to last round and Elite Eight are literally exactly the same thing, if you want to be really technical you can make it 3 records.
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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:01:00 PM
#22:


A tripling already, huh?

This could get real ugly.

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:02:00 PM
#23:


They're really going to get that 80%.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:02:00 PM
#24:


82.11% for Link/Ganondorf

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:02:00 PM
#25:


Darn it, Cloud/Seph won the super early board vote?

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PartOfYourWorld
12/15/11 9:02:00 PM
#26:


WE LOST A PERFECT BATTLER. OH LAUGH OUT LOUD

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:03:00 PM
#27:


From: PartOfYourWorld | #026
WE LOST A PERFECT BATTLER. OH LAUGH OUT LOUD


My guess is that he forgot to make his pick in time, especially with how little time you have between matches to make your pick now.

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creativename
12/15/11 9:03:00 PM
#28:


Weird trends. I guess that's what happens when anti-votes collide.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:03:00 PM
#29:


Come on, Squall! Push for that 30%!

...Trends here should be pretty interesting.

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th3l3fty
12/15/11 9:03:00 PM
#30:


sub-70

gg Cloud

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EmDubyaSee
12/15/11 9:03:00 PM
#31:


From: Xuxon | #021
Third to last round and Elite Eight are literally exactly the same thing, if you want to be really technical you can make it 3 records.




lrnto4way

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:04:00 PM
#32:


If it turns out that he actually picked Alucard/Dracula instead of just missing the deadline.........wow. It's like losing our last 3 perfects on Cloud/Sephiroth 2004, except far far worse.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:04:00 PM
#33:


Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 69.95% 298
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy 30.05% 128
TOTAL VOTES 426

Whoo.

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Xuxon
12/15/11 9:04:00 PM
#34:


From: LeonhartFour | #027
My guess is that he forgot to make his pick in time, especially with how little time you have between matches to make your pick now.


Yeah, I did that too. Of course my streak only started after Frog lost so it was of little consequence.
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JJH777
12/15/11 9:04:00 PM
#35:


rSFF

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Kyle Bowen
12/15/11 9:04:00 PM
#36:


Squall Championship Performance Edition post.

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:05:00 PM
#37:


This is completely unacceptable, Cloud. Did you just see Link put 77% on Alucard? Get yourself up to 80%, pronto!

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creativename
12/15/11 9:05:00 PM
#38:


From: red sox 777 | #152It's like losing our last 3 perfects on Cloud/Sephiroth 2004, except far far worse.


This actually happened?

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:06:00 PM
#39:


If my memory doesn't fail me, then yes....

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vcharon
12/15/11 9:07:00 PM
#40:


Keep in mind that people used the same ridiculous ideas they have about Samus > Mario back in 04 for Sephiroth.

Good thing there aren't delusional people still roaming about today.

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red sox 777
12/15/11 9:08:00 PM
#41:


Well, knowing that it's FFVII, I supposed they've still got a shot at beating Link's percentage from yesterday. I guess if they don't match that but beat Link's performance on Megaman, I can still take them next round on the theory that Squall/Seifer > Alucard/Dracula and there's only so much SFF can do in the face of anti-voting. But if they can't even outdo the performance on Megaman, it's time to give up.

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Team Rocket Elite
12/15/11 9:08:00 PM
#42:


Score-Brackets-% Right
112----4------------100.00
111----6------------100.00
110----4------------100.00
109----3------------100.00
108----5------------100.00
107----11----------100.00
106----14----------100.00
105----7------------100.00
104----180--------100.00
103----35----------100.00
102----34----------100.00
101----41----------100.00
100----64----------96.88
99------105--------100.00
98------111--------100.00
97------116--------99.14
96------128--------99.22
95------150--------98.67
94------375--------99.73
93------199--------96.98
92------211--------96.68
91------233--------98.71
90------274--------96.72
89------279--------94.98
88------322--------96.27
87------365--------95.34
86------368--------92.66
85------370--------97.03
84------382--------93.46
83------442--------94.12
82------382--------94.50
81------423--------91.73
80------401--------92.77
79------465--------91.61
78------456--------91.01
77------446--------89.46
76------457--------89.93
75------407--------88.21
74------443--------89.16
73------415--------87.23
72------389--------85.86
71------419--------86.87
70------374--------86.10
69------377--------87.80
68------329--------77.51
67------333--------76.28
66------304--------82.89
65------310--------73.23
64------263--------80.61
63------255--------75.69
62------237--------67.93
61------234--------69.23
60------189--------66.14
59------189--------68.78
58------187--------61.50
57------161--------59.01
56------153--------58.17
55------126--------53.17
54------127--------54.33
53------123--------52.03
52------111--------54.95
51------118--------40.68
50------101--------44.55
49------64----------43.75
48------71----------33.80
47------75----------37.33
46------56----------32.14
45------56----------32.14
44------70----------32.86
43------45----------20.00
42------67----------23.88
41------56----------17.86
40------48----------29.17
39------34----------23.53
38------50----------12.00
37------41----------14.63
36------20----------15.00
35------21----------23.81
34------31----------16.13
33------20----------15.00
32------16----------12.50

30------15----------6.67
29------9------------11.11
28------11----------18.18

24------6------------16.67

22------3------------33.33

7--------2------------50.00

Can't really expect less than this from Link. Everyone within 11 points of perfect got the match right. -34 (78 points) and better stay above 90. More brackets had Link and Mario making it to Round 5 than had Cloud making it to Round 4 so Cloud can't match this.

No one fell off the Top 50.

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Xuxon
12/15/11 9:09:00 PM
#43:


Sephiroth lost directly to Cloud in 2003, in a pretty close match. Nothing like Samus > Mario logic in the slightest.
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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:09:00 PM
#44:


Third Quarter Stats

Link vs. Ganondorf – 50.00%
Mega Man vs. Dr. Wily – 24.74%
Alucard vs. Dracula – 22.40%
Frog vs. Magus – 20.94%
Chell vs. GLaDOS – 20.31%
Phoenix Wright vs. Miles Edgeworth – 19.41%
Raiden vs. Vamp – 18.38%
Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen – 16.87%
Zidane Tribal vs. Kuja – 16.77%
Ness vs. Giygas – 16.63%
Commander Shepard vs. Saren Arterius – 16.47%
Amaterasu vs. Orochi – 16.31%
Arthas Menethil vs. Illidian – 14.70%
Meat Boy vs. Dr. Fetus – 11.87%
Banjo vs. Gruntilda – 11.14%
Tom Nook vs. Crazy Redd – 10.73%


Preliminary 4th quarter stats in a bit.

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creativename
12/15/11 9:09:00 PM
#45:


From: vcharon | #160
Keep in mind that people used the same ridiculous ideas they have about Samus > Mario back in 04 for Sephiroth.

Good thing there aren't delusional people still roaming about today.


Well Sephiroth very likely would have comfortably beaten Cloud in 2K2, so favoring him the next year isn't surprising whatsoever. Would be weird if they all favored Cloud, that wouldn't make sense.

It's just that we actually had 3 perfects left and this ended them that makes it ironic.

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charmander6000
12/15/11 9:10:00 PM
#46:


Updated Top 10

Top 10 Biggest 24h Vote Gaps
1. Link/Ganondorf – 46897 vs. Amaterasu/Orochi – 9139 – Round 2 – 37758
2. Mario/Bowser – 40377 vs. Ike/Black Knight – 9801 – Round 2 – 30576
3. Red/Blue – 42513 vs. Luigi/Waluigi – 12021 – Round 2 – 30492
4. Link/Ganondorf – 41923 vs. Alucard/Dracula – 12115 – Round 4 - 29808
5. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth – 40294 vs. Kratos/Zeus – 12185 – Round 2 - 28109
6. Mega Man X/Zero – 37795 vs. Bartz Klauser/Gilgamesh – 11161 – Round 2 – 26634
7. Link/Ganondorf – 38913 vs. Mega Man/Dr. Wily – 12793 – Round 3 - 26120
8. Mario/Bowser – 37989 vs. Sonic the Hedgehog/Dr. Robotnik – 15834 – Round 3 – 22155
9. Mario/Bowser – 35947 vs. Mega Man X/Zero – 17978 – Round 4 - 17969
10. Mega Man/Dr. Wily – 34405 vs. Zidane Tribal/Kuja – 17638 – Round 2 – 16767

Top 10 Most Popular 24h Polls
1. Red/Blue vs. Ryu/Ken – Round 3 – 58843
2. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. Solid Snake/Liquid Snake – Round 3 - 58655
3. Link/Ganondorf vs. Amaterasu/Orochi – Round 2 – 56036
4. Red/Blue vs. Samus Aran/Ridley – Round 4 - 55122
5. Red/Blue vs. Luigi/Waluigi – Round 2 – 54534
6. Link/Ganondorf vs. Alucard/Dracula – Round 4 - 54038
7. Mario/Bowser vs. Mega Man X/Zero – Round 4 - 53925
8. Mario/Bowser vs. Sonic the Hedgehog/Dr. Robotnik – Round 3 - 53823
9. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth vs. Kratos/Zeus – Round 2 - 52479
10. Mega Man/Dr. Wily vs. Zidane Tribal/Kuja – Round 2 – 52043

Top 10 Highest Individual Team 24h Votes
1. Link/Ganondorf – Round 2 – 46897
2. Red/Blue – Round 2 – 42513
3. Link/Ganondorf – Round 4 - 41923
4. Mario/Bowser – Round 2 – 40377
5. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth – Round 2 – 40294
6. Link/Ganondorf – Round 3 - 38913
7. Mario/Bowser – Round 3 - 37989
8. Mega Man X/Zero – Round 2 – 37795
9. Cloud Strife/Sephiroth – Round 3 – 36435
10. Mario/Bowser – Round 4 - 35947

Top 10 Lowest Individual Team 24h Votes
1. Amaterasu/Orochi – Round 2 – 9139
2. Ike/Black Knight – Round 2 – 9801
3. Bartz/Gilgamesh – Round 2 – 11161
4. Luigi/Waluigi – Round 2 – 12021
5. Alucard/Dracula – Round 4 - 12115
6. Kratos/Zeus – Round 2 – 12185
7. Mega Man/Dr. Wily – Round 3 - 12793
8. Pac-Man/Blinky – Round 2 – 14420
9. Siegfried/Nightmare – Round 2 – 15166
10. Sonic the Hedgehog/Dr. Robotnik – Round 3 - 15834

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creativename
12/15/11 9:10:00 PM
#47:


From: Xuxon | #204
Sephiroth lost directly to Cloud in 2003, in a pretty close match. Nothing like Samus > Mario logic in the slightest.


Ohhhhh. In 2K4! Totally missed that part, thought it was 2K3.

Yeah...that's just....inexplicable.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:11:00 PM
#48:


So I guess when you have two heavy anti-voted entities, you get that after the freeze.

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creativename
12/15/11 9:12:00 PM
#49:


Whelp, there you have it I guess.

Cloud/Seph will have a hard time matching what Cloud did last time he faced Link. This is pretty bad.

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LeonhartFour
12/15/11 9:13:00 PM
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Fourth Quarter Stats

Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth – 50.00%
Solid Snake vs. Liquid Snake – 37.88%
Crono vs. Lavos – 31.24%
Squall Leonhart vs. Seifer Almasy – 28.27%
Sora vs. Riku – 27.88%
Dante vs. Vergil – 27.40%
Pac-Man vs. Blinky – 24.52%
Lloyd Irving vs. Kratos Aurion – 23.36%
Kratos vs. Zeus – 23.22%
William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler – 22.19%
Siegfried Schtauffen vs. Nightmare – 18.79%
Crash Bandicoot vs. Dr. Neo Cortex – 17.89%
Ramza Beoulve vs. Delita Hyral – 16.66%
Laharl vs. Mid-Boss – 14.90%
Professor Layton vs. Don Paolo – 12.02%
Sol Badguy vs. Ky Kiske – 9.54%

Finally, a sub-10% entrant.

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