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TimJab
12/14/11 9:02:00 PM
#451:


From: JaKyL25 | #442
Did we ever figure out what happened to Chris Hero?

I remember hearing a rumor that they were holding him to be on Tough Enough in the spring but I have no idea if that was based on anything or not.


he showed up and wrestled a match at the PWG show last weekend

he lost, which is rare for him in that company, so i'm not sure what to make of that

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Wanglicious
12/14/11 9:03:00 PM
#452:


but.... they already had a tough enough with a guy who was wrestling for years.

he sucked, but still.
but there isn't any way Hero'd lose that. too big a star to fail something like that unless they also put somebody like Aries in it. but that ain't happening.

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TimJab
12/14/11 9:04:00 PM
#453:


From: SmartMuffin | #449
And then there's "putting in a guy who has already wrestled professionally for several years." Having him on tough enough would be like having Rihanna on American Idol!


they put matt cross on tough enough 1!

then again most of the amateurs were better wrestlers than matt cross

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 9:04:00 PM
#454:


They had an indy star on last season (Matt Cross aka MDogg20) and he got eliminated second.

Although with Hero it would be a bit different since he's not just an established indy guy, but also a pretty notable trainer. Anyone who is actually good enough to train other people who have gone on to success is probably a league above Tough Enough.

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TimJab
12/14/11 9:05:00 PM
#455:


WANG'D

i...i don't like that one as much

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TimJab
12/14/11 9:05:00 PM
#456:


and JAKYL'D

da fuh

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KommunistKoala
12/14/11 9:06:00 PM
#457:


TimJab off his game boi

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 9:06:00 PM
#458:


Yeah, with Matt Cross they had him work a match on the show since he said he already knew how and they were all like "Dude you were just out there doing flips, where's the connection with the audience?" and he was cut #2.

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Wanglicious
12/14/11 9:07:00 PM
#459:


you will be WANG'D and like it.

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 9:09:00 PM
#460:


From: Wanglicious | #452
unless they also put somebody like Aries in it.


He did apply!

He's probably better off in TNA, and that's not something I say lightly. He's carved out a great niche for himself there.

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TimJab
12/14/11 9:09:00 PM
#461:


From: JaKyL25 | #458
Yeah, with Matt Cross they had him work a match on the show since he said he already knew how and they were all like "Dude you were just out there doing flips, where's the connection with the audience?" and he was cut #2.


matt cross is literally the worst wrestler from any major indy i've ever seen

he singlehandedly ruined a chikara rey de voladores, which i wait all year for

i didn't watch tough enough solely because he was on it

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Wanglicious
12/14/11 9:12:00 PM
#462:


oh i agree with you jakyl. aries is doing damn well for himself right now. just saying that unless you get somebody of that kind of caliber, putting Hero on that show is like Kaval in NXT2.... except he's bigger, more attractive, has a bigger fanbase, and better credentials.

he couldn't lose that if he tried.

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 9:14:00 PM
#463:


WWE wanted Riley to win NXT2 so badly.

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 9:18:00 PM
#464:


Anyway, in theory if they're holding Hero for Tough Enough, it's because they want him to win and validate the show.

The last two Tough Enough winners were Daniel Puder and Andy Levine. Not shining examples of how effective Tough Enough is.

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Wanglicious
12/14/11 9:19:00 PM
#465:


yeah. hell, him or perfect jr when he still looked like he could be worthwhile (see: didn't have a live mic to kill the careers of 8 men) were what they wanted, but.... nope. low ki just kept getting da votes.

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ScareChan
12/14/11 10:54:00 PM
#466:


What happened to Luke and Jerimiah? They would make a great tag team

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 11:35:00 PM
#467:


No idea about Luke, but IIRC Jeremiah had a huge ego and basically thought that since he got the biggest pop on Raw that he should already be a regular wrestler on Raw.

See you later bye.

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SythaWarrior
12/14/11 11:36:00 PM
#468:


Which is a shame because Jeremiah had the most potential of that group by far.

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muddersmilk
12/15/11 9:49:00 AM
#469:


Yeah, he did an interview afterwards that burned every bridge he could possibly have with WWE. I don't remember most of it but I believe he declared that all the judges were jealous of his natural skill and didn't want him to win because he would be better than all of them Lots of ridiculous crap like that..

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Sir Cobain
12/15/11 10:37:00 AM
#470:


"get your damn teeth outta my ring"

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GTM
12/15/11 11:11:00 AM
#471:


He wants to be a heel in real life

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ScareChan
12/15/11 12:24:00 PM
#472:


He would be a decent goon along with Gunner in TNA

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JaKyL25
12/15/11 1:01:00 PM
#473:


WWE.com has a column up saying that Evolution should re-form, except now with Trips in the Flair role, and Orton in the Trips role.

It suggests either Dolph or Cody for the old Orton role, and either Sheamus or Mason Ryan for the old Batista role.

Because if there's one thing a company needs to kickstart things creatively, it's REHASHING THE PAST.

Although there's an epic typo in the article:

Put simply, Evolution was style incarnate and dangerous dominance all at the same time – the divine successor of a slew of infamous factions that included the immortal Four Horsemen, the NWO, The Nation of Domination, The Cooperate Ministry and D-Generation X.

LOL Cooperate Ministry.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/15/11 2:11:00 PM
#474:


the horror of the cooperate ministry and their organic vegetable garden

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DeathChicken
12/15/11 2:15:00 PM
#475:


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TimJab
12/15/11 2:16:00 PM
#476:


well the corporation and the ministry of darkness were cooperating

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JaKyL25
12/15/11 2:33:00 PM
#477:


**SUPERSTARS SPOILERS**

Rarely do you ever see such a shining day for heels. Drew, Hunico, Swagger, and Primo/Epico went 4-0, all four wins clean as a whistle.

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FFDragon
12/15/11 5:22:00 PM
#478:


JaKyL25 posted...
Mason Ryan for the old Batista role..

tee hee

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 10:14:00 AM
#479:


Jericho says that he's going to be recording a new Fozzy album "from January through March."

What a ridiculously specific and suspicious amount of time.

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EmDubyaSee
12/16/11 10:15:00 AM
#480:


From: JaKyL25 | #479
Jericho says that he's going to be recording a new Fozzy album "from January through March."

What a ridiculously specific and suspicious amount of time.




I love Chris.

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TimJab
12/16/11 11:19:00 AM
#481:


finally saw amdrag and cody's pinning combination thing since, for some reason, it was the clip of the week on the soup

yeah, that's the same combination we have seen a million times (actually done pretty sloppily), followed by a little overkill on the reversals at the end

wasn't that great!

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Icon Classic
12/16/11 11:30:00 AM
#482:


JaKyL25 posted...
Jericho says that he's going to be recording a new Fozzy album "from January through March."

What a ridiculously specific and suspicious amount of time.

that's pretty common

people should stop looking for deeper meaning in everything chris jericho says

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Coffee Ninja
12/16/11 11:32:00 AM
#483:


FFDragon posted...
JaKyL25 posted...
Mason Ryan for the old Batista role..

tee hee



My mind went there too, lol.

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 11:41:00 AM
#484:


From: Icon Classic | #482
people should stop looking for deeper meaning in everything chris jericho says


Then it's a lot less fun!

The only issue is when people start EXPECTING him to return when he doesn't and then get disappointed.

I mean, I certainly hope ItBegins2012 is Jericho but as long as the payoff satisfies I won't be upset that it's not him.

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DeathChicken
12/16/11 11:44:00 AM
#485:


It'll lead to Johnny Ace talking on his phone. "Yeah, I know we gave you the big mysterious video package, Brodus, but it'll be even more special if we hold off till *next* week!"

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Dauntless Hunter
12/16/11 11:48:00 AM
#486:


Does anyone else think Brodus will eventually return by clobbering Johnny Ace from behind while he's yukking it up with Otunga about how great it is that they put him off for another week?

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 11:53:00 AM
#487:


My guess is that Ryder wins the US Title and then Laurinitis brings in Brodus to beat him for it (and gives him an opportunity right away to show the hypocrisy about not giving Ryder a shot).

Or maybe that's just wishful thinking because I want an "Are you serious, Brodus?!" line.

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SHINE GET 64
12/16/11 11:53:00 AM
#488:


with Kane's return I changed my expectations for January 2nd to being The Undertaker

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 11:56:00 AM
#489:


A mysterious video package with cryptic messages eventually leading to the return of The Undertaker?

Let's not get crazy now.

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Icon Classic
12/16/11 12:01:00 PM
#490:


it's the undertaker, and the woman prophesied by the video will be sara calloway

or it's just the girl from the video and the last message will end with her saying "REST IN PEACE" and then boom, undertaker

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Dark_Spiral
12/16/11 12:03:00 PM
#491:


Forget the Undertaker. Triple H ended the streak and his career at WM, he said so himself.
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Viktor Vaughn
12/16/11 12:04:00 PM
#492:


Regarding John Morrison, he had decided months ago, at least dating back to July, that he was going to retire from wrestling when his WWE contract expired and was going to try to get into acting. How serious he is about it, time will tell. He made a public statement that he was going to take time off and train. He could use time off for healing and probably to freshen up as well.



looooooooooooooooool

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XIII_rocks
12/16/11 12:05:00 PM
#493:


From: DeathChicken | #485
It'll lead to Johnny Ace talking on his phone. "Yeah, I know we gave you the big mysterious video package, Brodus, but it'll be even more special if we hold off till *next* week!"



I would pay so much money for this to happen (well I still want it to be THE AYATOLLAH but this is the best alternative)

From: JaKyL25 | #487
My guess is that Ryder wins the US Title and then Laurinitis brings in Brodus to beat him for it (and gives him an opportunity right away to show the hypocrisy about not giving Ryder a shot).

Or maybe that's just wishful thinking because I want an "Are you serious, Brodus?!" line.


...Your booking really does make me sad when I realize it isn't going to happen.

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 12:05:00 PM
#494:


It's Triple H and the woman is Stephanie McMahon.

He's going to get taken out at TLC with another vicious sledgehammer attack, miss 2 weeks, and then make an incredible return that was foretold four weeks before he even got hurt.

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JaKyL25
12/16/11 12:08:00 PM
#495:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #493
Regarding John Morrison, he had decided months ago, at least dating back to July, that he was going to retire from wrestling when his WWE contract expired and was going to try to get into acting. How serious he is about it, time will tell. He made a public statement that he was going to take time off and train. He could use time off for healing and probably to freshen up as well.



looooooooooooooooool




Of all the occupations in the world, it's incredible that Morrison picked probably the absolute worst fit for him.

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Icon Classic
12/16/11 12:08:00 PM
#496:


i don't think he'd make a good wet nurse

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Uglyface2
12/16/11 12:13:00 PM
#497:


Oh, right. Is it too late to tag this topic?
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Viktor Vaughn
12/16/11 12:14:00 PM
#498:


nah

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EmDubyaSee
12/16/11 12:14:00 PM
#499:


Later

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EmDubyaSee
12/16/11 12:14:00 PM
#500:


Marks

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