Blue the only toss-up match left?

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iGenesis 12/09/11 9:20:00 PM #1:	Does anyone really think Cloud has a chance against Link (an event that hasn't happened since 2003), or that Sora has any chance against Squall? What other difficult-to-predict matches are left? -- *GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.* http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif <cite>iGenesis posted [p:534924] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Does anyone really think Cloud has a chance against Link (an event that hasn't happened since 2003), or that Sora has any chance against Squall? What other difficult-to-predict matches are left? -- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCodeisBosco 12/09/11 9:21:00 PM #2:	TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight. -- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy <cite>TheCodeisBosco posted [p:534925] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight. -- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 12/09/11 9:21:00 PM #3:	Red/Blue look to have that match pretty decisively, so I'm not sure if I would call it a tossup. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:534926] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Red/Blue look to have that match pretty decisively, so I'm not sure if I would call it a tossup. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 12/09/11 9:21:00 PM #4:	None left. Trainers will stomp Samus, lose to Mario. Link will destroy everything his path. -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:534927] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> None left.Trainers will stomp Samus, lose to Mario.Link will destroy everything his path. -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 12/09/11 9:21:00 PM #5:	Red/Blue is the heavy favourite to beat Samus/Ridley at this point, aren't they? -- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:534928] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Red/Blue is the heavy favourite to beat Samus/Ridley at this point, aren't they? -- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th placePokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 12/09/11 9:21:00 PM #6:	*TheCodeisBosco posted...* TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight. ^ Except... Trainers/Mario is probably not a toss up. Odds are still heavily in Mario's favor, but we'll have to see. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:534929] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> TheCodeisBosco posted...TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight.^Except... Trainers/Mario is probably not a toss up. Odds are still heavily in Mario's favor, but we'll have to see. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 12/09/11 9:22:00 PM #7:	More worried about them beating Mario, but they COULD still lose to Samus. Heavy favourites though now -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5261/5567070428_ee1dcd3590.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:534930] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> More worried about them beating Mario, but they COULD still lose to Samus. Heavy favourites though now -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5261/5567070428_ee1dcd3590.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sonicboom510 12/09/11 9:22:00 PM #8:	Sora/Squall anyone? -- http://i56.tinypic.com/25stpxf.gif http://www.glogster.com/media/1/2/42/74/2427453.jpg <cite>sonicboom510 posted [p:534931] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Sora/Squall anyone? -- http://i56.tinypic.com/25stpxf.gifhttp://www.glogster.com/media/1/2/42/74/2427453.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCodeisBosco 12/09/11 9:23:00 PM #9:	*Azp2k32 posted...* TheCodeisBosco posted... TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight. ^ Except... Trainers/Mario is probably not a toss up. Odds are still heavily in Mario's favor, but we'll have to see. The odds are still in favor of Mario, definitely. But the chance of Trainers > Mario is definitely higher than Samus > Trainers, IMO. -- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy <cite>TheCodeisBosco posted [p:534932] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Azp2k32 posted...TheCodeisBosco posted...TBH, the real toss-up is Trainers/Mario. I doubt Samus is going to even put up a fight.^Except... Trainers/Mario is probably not a toss up. Odds are still heavily in Mario's favor, but we'll have to see.The odds are still in favor of Mario, definitely. But the chance of Trainers > Mario is definitely higher than Samus > Trainers, IMO. -- "Claire likes to say 'You can be part of the problem, or part of the solution.' But I happen to believe you can be both." - Phil Dunphy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iGenesis 12/09/11 9:26:00 PM #10:	LOL at the thought of Pokemon beating Mario/Bowser. Mario/Bowser is easily the most iconic; they've appeared in more games than any other character pair in this contest. -- *GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.* http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif <cite>iGenesis posted [p:534933] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> LOL at the thought of Pokemon beating Mario/Bowser. Mario/Bowser is easily the most iconic; they've appeared in more games than any other character pair in this contest. -- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 9:29:00 PM #11:	There aren't really any debatable matches left at this point, in my opinion. Something may surprise us, but that's been a pretty rare event in this contest. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534934] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> There aren't really any debatable matches left at this point, in my opinion.Something may surprise us, but that's been a pretty rare event in this contest. -- "Stay with me until the end. Please.""Not until the end. Always." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iGenesis 12/09/11 9:33:00 PM #12:	From: LeonhartFour \| #011 There aren't really any debatable matches left at this point, in my opinion. Something may surprise us, but that's been a pretty rare event in this contest. As I said, Samus/Ridley vs. PKMN Trainer Red/Blue. PKMN Trainer Red/Blue has had better performance against their Round 1/2/3 opponents, but they've also had easier opponents. Metal Gear characters & Terra/Kefka are more popular than Luigi/Waluigi (same Nintendo fanbase) Right now I would go with PKMN Trainer Red/Blue if I had to pick, but historically, Metroid/Samus have always been fairly strong. -- *GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.* http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif <cite>iGenesis posted [p:534935] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #011There aren't really any debatable matches left at this point, in my opinion.Something may surprise us, but that's been a pretty rare event in this contest.As I said, Samus/Ridley vs. PKMN Trainer Red/Blue.PKMN Trainer Red/Blue has had better performance against their Round 1/2/3 opponents, but they've also had easier opponents. Metal Gear characters & Terra/Kefka are more popular than Luigi/Waluigi (same Nintendo fanbase)Right now I would go with PKMN Trainer Red/Blue if I had to pick, but historically, Metroid/Samus have always been fairly strong. -- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 12/09/11 9:33:00 PM #13:	*sonicboom510 posted...* Sora/Squall anyone? I love Sora. He's getting crushed by SFF Squall. Who, in turn, is getting fed to SFF Cloud. And SFF Mario is most likely killing SFF Trainers if they make it that far (and it looks as though they will). -- Cupcakes! Cupcakes, cupcakes, CUPCAKES!!! <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:534936] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> sonicboom510 posted...Sora/Squall anyone?I love Sora. He's getting crushed by SFF Squall. Who, in turn, is getting fed to SFF Cloud.And SFF Mario is most likely killing SFF Trainers if they make it that far (and it looks as though they will). -- Cupcakes! Cupcakes, cupcakes, CUPCAKES!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 9:33:00 PM #14:	From: iGenesis \| #012 As I said, Samus/Ridley vs. PKMN Trainer Red/Blue. Not debatable. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534937] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: iGenesis \| #012As I said, Samus/Ridley vs. PKMN Trainer Red/Blue.Not debatable. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?""I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 9:34:00 PM #15:	But I guess it might be considered debatable if you think Terra/Kefka or Chris/Wesker could beat Ryu/Ken. I don't though. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534938] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> But I guess it might be considered debatable if you think Terra/Kefka or Chris/Wesker could beat Ryu/Ken.I don't though. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iGenesis 12/09/11 9:35:00 PM #16:	From: LeonhartFour \| #015 But I guess it might be considered debatable if you think Terra/Kefka or Chris/Wesker could beat Ryu/Ken. I don't though. Look at Samus/Ridley vs. The Kid/The Guy. that's what happens when you get easy opponents like Red/Blue has gotten so far. -- *GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.* http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif <cite>iGenesis posted [p:534939] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #015But I guess it might be considered debatable if you think Terra/Kefka or Chris/Wesker could beat Ryu/Ken.I don't though.Look at Samus/Ridley vs. The Kid/The Guy. that's what happens when you get easy opponents like Red/Blue has gotten so far. -- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 9:35:00 PM #17:	From: iGenesis \| #016 Look at Samus/Ridley vs. The Kid/The Guy. that's what happens when you get easy opponents like Red/Blue has gotten so far. You think Ryu/Ken is an easy opponent? -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534940] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: iGenesis \| #016Look at Samus/Ridley vs. The Kid/The Guy. that's what happens when you get easy opponents like Red/Blue has gotten so far.You think Ryu/Ken is an easy opponent? -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iGenesis 12/09/11 9:37:00 PM #18:	From: LeonhartFour \| #017 You think Ryu/Ken is an easy opponent? no, but easier than Big Boss/The Boss. Metal Gear has been more popular on this site than Street Fighter. And I'm not debating the current consensus (that PKMN Trainer Red/Blue is favoured on that match), just that it's not as much of a foregone conclusion as you're making it out to be. -- *GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.* http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif <cite>iGenesis posted [p:534941] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #017You think Ryu/Ken is an easy opponent?no, but easier than Big Boss/The Boss. Metal Gear has been more popular on this site than Street Fighter.And I'm not debating the current consensus (that PKMN Trainer Red/Blue is favoured on that match), just that it's not as much of a foregone conclusion as you're making it out to be. -- GameFAQs.com: Where YOU make the content, but CBS makes the money.http://lueshi.info/Mario_Zelda_Tier_List.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 9:38:00 PM #19:	Again. Ryu/Ken vs. Terra/Kefka Trainers and Samus got almost identical percentages against those two opponents I think Ryu/Ken beats Terra/Kefka relatively easily -- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534942] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Again.Ryu/Ken vs. Terra/KefkaTrainers and Samus got almost identical percentages against those two opponentsI think Ryu/Ken beats Terra/Kefka relatively easily -- http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 12/09/11 9:40:00 PM #20:	no, but easier than Big Boss/The Boss. Metal Gear has been more popular on this site than Street Fighter. And I'm not debating the current consensus (that PKMN Trainer Red/Blue is favoured on that match), just that it's not as much of a foregone conclusion as you're making it out to be. Your opinion of Ryu/Ken is pretty different from the common opinion. I think most people think Ryu/Ken would beat Samus/Ridley. -- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th place Pokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:534943] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> no, but easier than Big Boss/The Boss. Metal Gear has been more popular on this site than Street Fighter.And I'm not debating the current consensus (that PKMN Trainer Red/Blue is favoured on that match), just that it's not as much of a foregone conclusion as you're making it out to be.Your opinion of Ryu/Ken is pretty different from the common opinion. I think most people think Ryu/Ken would beat Samus/Ridley. -- Pokemon VGC2011 US Nationals - 54th placePokemon VGC2012 NW Regional - 16th place </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoElfboy 12/09/11 9:54:00 PM #21:	I think most people think Ryu/Ken would beat Samus/Ridley. Really? I don't see much reason to think that, mostly because to me it's inconceivable that the trainers are worth 60% on Samus/Ridley (assuming no SFF). Unless Ridley is a bigger anchor than I think. -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion <cite>NeoElfboy posted [p:534944] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> I think most people think Ryu/Ken would beat Samus/Ridley.Really? I don't see much reason to think that, mostly because to me it's inconceivable that the trainers are worth 60% on Samus/Ridley (assuming no SFF). Unless Ridley is a bigger anchor than I think. -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.comAn unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/09/11 10:16:00 PM #22:	The Bosses got 47% on Samus. No way Big Boss approaches that number 1-on-1. He got 37% on Mario last year. It's not that hard to think some other non-Noble Nine rivalry could reach that level. -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:534945] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> The Bosses got 47% on Samus. No way Big Boss approaches that number 1-on-1. He got 37% on Mario last year. It's not that hard to think some other non-Noble Nine rivalry could reach that level. -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spooky96 12/10/11 5:33:00 AM #23:	Am I the only one on this board who still believes Samus> Trainers ? C'mon, Samus has been the winner ones, Pokemon is no where near as good as Solid Snake/Cloud/Link Mario/Samus/Crono/Sephiroth Defeating Ryu/Ken wasn't surprising. Though I'm well aware that Missingo came really close to Sephiroth in the last contest, so if the trainers are going to beat Samus, they're getting crushed by Mario, right? But still, it should be close. -- ... <cite>spooky96 posted [p:534946] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> Am I the only one on this board who still believes Samus> Trainers ? C'mon, Samus has been the winner ones, Pokemon is no where near as good as Solid Snake/Cloud/Link Mario/Samus/Crono/Sephiroth Defeating Ryu/Ken wasn't surprising. Though I'm well aware that Missingo came really close to Sephiroth in the last contest, so if the trainers are going to beat Samus, they're getting crushed by Mario, right? But still, it should be close. -- ... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Djoker 12/10/11 5:49:00 AM #24:	The only toss up matches are Link/Cloud. Trainers are going to tear Samus's ass. It's not even close to being a toss up. Samus/Ridley suck. I mean all due respect to the bosses...they are literally from just 1 game. -- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif <cite>The_Djoker posted [p:534947] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> The only toss up matches are Link/Cloud. Trainers are going to tear Samus's ass. It's not even close to being a toss up. Samus/Ridley suck. I mean all due respect to the bosses...they are literally from just 1 game. -- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Djoker 12/10/11 5:55:00 AM #25:	From: spooky96 \| #023 Am I the only one on this board who still believes Samus> Trainers ? C'mon, Samus has been the winner ones, Pokemon is no where near as good as Solid Snake/Cloud/Link Mario/Samus/Crono/Sephiroth Defeating Ryu/Ken wasn't surprising. Though I'm well aware that Missingo came really close to Sephiroth in the last contest, so if the trainers are going to beat Samus, they're getting crushed by Mario, right? But still, it should be close. Pokemon is no way near good as those characters? Red/Blue the games are arguably the 4th/5th strongest games on the site. Well ahead of any Metroid game. -- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif <cite>The_Djoker posted [p:534948] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> From: spooky96 \| #023Am I the only one on this board who still believes Samus> Trainers ? C'mon, Samus has been the winner ones, Pokemon is no where near as good as Solid Snake/Cloud/Link Mario/Samus/Crono/Sephiroth Defeating Ryu/Ken wasn't surprising. Though I'm well aware that Missingo came really close to Sephiroth in the last contest, so if the trainers are going to beat Samus, they're getting crushed by Mario, right? But still, it should be close.Pokemon is no way near good as those characters?Red/Blue the games are arguably the 4th/5th strongest games on the site. Well ahead of any Metroid game. -- http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5716/linkpron.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spooky96 12/10/11 6:08:00 AM #26:	*The_Djoker posted...* From: spooky96 \| #023 Pokemon is no way near good as those characters? Red/Blue the games are arguably the 4th/5th strongest games on the site. Well ahead of any Metroid game. Well, I mean in performing, anyways, any particular reason why suddenly Trainers>Samus? -- ... <cite>spooky96 posted [p:534949] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> The_Djoker posted...From: spooky96 \| #023Pokemon is no way near good as those characters?Red/Blue the games are arguably the 4th/5th strongest games on the site. Well ahead of any Metroid game.Well, I mean in performing, anyways, any particular reason why suddenly Trainers>Samus? -- ... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 12/10/11 11:32:00 AM #27:	^Rivalry factor for one. Samus vs. Ridley kind of blows, whereas Trainers' rivalry is legit. I do believe they are the favorites to win, but I'm not buying all this talk of a blowout at all. 55% or less in favor of Trainers imo. -- Cupcakes! Cupcakes, cupcakes, CUPCAKES!!! <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:534950] in Is Samus/R... [t:61304090]...</cite> <quote> ^Rivalry factor for one.Samus vs. Ridley kind of blows, whereas Trainers' rivalry is legit. I do believe they are the favorites to win, but I'm not buying all this talk of a blowout at all. 55% or less in favor of Trainers imo. -- Cupcakes! Cupcakes, cupcakes, CUPCAKES!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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