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Pondos
12/14/11 9:52:00 PM
#251:


I don't even know if Savaii knows that Coach is running the show (or at least, not before Cochran was voted off)

I know a couple of people at Ponderosa thought that it was Sophie who converted Cochran to the dark side.

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Naomi_Diamond
12/14/11 9:59:00 PM
#252:


Cochran said at Ponderosa that it was Coach who got him to flip. They know Coach is the leader.

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JaKyL25
12/14/11 10:23:00 PM
#253:


To be honest, if there was one spot in the game where this move actually made sense for Brandon to do, this is it.

If it worked, it would have proved Coach's loyalty and locked up A/B/C as the Final Three (barring an Ozzy immunity run), and by making such a selfless move he all but assures himself the win.

If it failed (which it did), now all he has to do to get right back where he was is win one 1-on-1 duel, and by making such a selfless move he assures himself the win if he can get there. He'd have to keep winning to get there, but without Coach's loyalty (which this hypothetical says he doesn't have), he was gonna have to do that anyway.

I doubt that this was Brandon's strategic plan by making the move, but hey.

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12/14/11 11:12:00 PM
#254:


Rewatching (for sideboob?) and I'm thinking Is everyone just oblivious to Coach or something or do they think he can't win?

I hear Albert and he says something along the lines of "it was originally me, coach and sophie.... but sophie's a threat, lets get rid of her"

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MartinFF7
12/15/11 5:26:00 AM
#255:


Yeah, I caught that Albert dismissively called Coach "the cult leader" at one point. Maybe everyone does consider him a joke but he's not being portrayed as such? Coach almost seems like the goat for everyone else...

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CrimsonOcean
12/15/11 6:38:00 AM
#256:


To me is seems like the editing is giving us "the Coach show," when in reality someone like Sophie is really scheming a lot more than is being shown. Hence why Albert, people at Ponderosa, etc. all were kind of thinking Sophie is a big threat. Coach is being portrayed on TV as the leader, because that's what they really wanted out of this season, but in reality he's far less of a leader and a little more of a *nudge nudge wink wink* ok you're the leader Coach.

Which is not to say Coach hasn't been running the show with Upolu, it just might be under a bit of a different guise than we are being led to believe.
And that's not to say I don't like Coach. Coach or Sophie for the win please!

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WaIker
12/15/11 7:01:00 AM
#257:


From: CrimsonOcean | #256
To me is seems like the editing is giving us "the Coach show," when in reality someone like Sophie is really scheming a lot more than is being shown. Hence why Albert, people at Ponderosa, etc. all were kind of thinking Sophie is a big threat. Coach is being portrayed on TV as the leader, because that's what they really wanted out of this season, but in reality he's far less of a leader and a little more of a *nudge nudge wink wink* ok you're the leader Coach.

Which is not to say Coach hasn't been running the show with Upolu, it just might be under a bit of a different guise than we are being led to believe.
And that's not to say I don't like Coach. Coach or Sophie for the win please!


This is why I like Sophie. I think she's exactly the type of player who will call Coach out at final tribal and be like "he wasn't the one actually doing anything. He was just a wingnut swingvote" except in a more eloquent way because that's what she does.

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SlymDayspring
12/15/11 7:09:00 AM
#258:


I think that Coach is absolutely the leader. Sophie is just really smart, and that is why people fear her. She also seems to be Coach's confidant, and therefore the most likely to get the "played the best game" vote next to coach. I think the reason these people think nobody will vote for Coach is because a) he has played before and b) he has pissed people off by being the leader of the cult

unfortunately I do not think these people saw last season, because Boston Rob managed to win despite those things.

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The Mana Sword
12/15/11 7:13:00 AM
#259:


To be fair Rob did both things with far more finesse than Coach has.

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shabaaba
12/15/11 8:35:00 AM
#260:


I kind of believe Coach when he was talking to Ozzy about how if he got back in, they'd go together. I think there's a respect that's grown, plus they have already have the bond of being the two returning 'leaders.' It's stupid any time Ozzy or Coach get upset at being pointed at as the leader at tribal...I mean, thats why they were brought back and only them amongst 14 new people.

Lets say Ozzy beats Brandon, gets back in... He and Coach ally...I'm sure Coach wants Albert gone, but they need a third vote. I imagine if Ozzy gets in, he'll be the 'supposed' target as the outsider and jury threat. But Albert hates Sophie and probably Rick after blabbering about their talk, and knows he would have been gone if Brandon didn't save his ass. So Albert votes with Ozzy and Coach to keep his butt safe. They SHOULD vote out Sophie, but Coach may still be too loyal, so bye bye Rick.

Now at 4, they should still vote out Sophie, but she hates Albert and would probably vote him out to make the final 3, which is better than splitting a vote at 2 and drawing rocks. They'll play some silly endurance game, and whoever drops first between Coach and Sophie will go against Ozzy, because Ozzy just seems so unbeatable in challenges that I can't see him losing the last one.
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Naomi_Diamond
12/15/11 10:54:00 AM
#261:


Survivor 25: Brandon vs. Erik

Final 5 TC will be them just handing immunity idols back and forth.

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12/15/11 11:17:00 AM
#262:


Is the jury bitter? If Coach really is a goat, they may all just vote for him like the bunch voted for Susie in Gabon

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SlymDayspring
12/15/11 11:21:00 AM
#263:


I think most of the jury is bitter at Cochran. I know Jim said that "if the next person to come here is a savaii, coach just won this game" on the first ponderosa video....so I am guessing he, at least, plans on voting for whoever played the best game..which he thought to be coach at that time.

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SanityLapse
12/15/11 11:32:00 PM
#264:


Naomi_Diamond posted...
Survivor 25: Brandon vs. Erik

Final 5 TC will be them just handing immunity idols back and forth.


The immunity challenge will be over within the first 5 minutes, and the last 55 minutes of the episode will be Tribal.

DO WANT.


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SlymDayspring
12/16/11 5:58:00 AM
#265:


so, any finale predicts?

I think Ozzy comes back, is immediately voted out. then rick because there is NO WAY his edit makes F3. Albert probably gets MICK TRIMMING'd, but I am torn as to whether or not Coach can pull off a Boston Rob or get Russell'd.

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wg64Z
12/16/11 6:47:00 AM
#266:


Someone should upload the Edna Ponderosa videos to youtube :)
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SlymDayspring
12/16/11 11:35:00 AM
#267:


is CBS youtube page blocked for you or something?

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wg64Z
12/16/11 12:50:00 PM
#268:


Yes
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12/16/11 1:30:00 PM
#269:


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Mik_Pick
12/16/11 9:20:00 PM
#270:


Finally got to watch all of the Ponderosa videos, all excited for Sunday now.

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The Mana Sword
12/16/11 9:35:00 PM
#271:


FINALE PREDIX

Final RI duel - Ozzy wins, gets back in the game

F5 Immunity - Sophie
F5 Tribal - Ozzy

F4 Immunity - Sophie
F4 Tribal - Rick

FTC - Sophie - 6, Coach - 3, Albert - 0

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Naomi_Diamond
12/16/11 9:37:00 PM
#272:


yea i think Sophie is gonna win after that last episode

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Justin_Crossing
12/16/11 9:39:00 PM
#273:


I really really want Sophie to win and would be so pleased with it.

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The Mana Sword
12/16/11 9:46:00 PM
#274:


Also FTC votes while we're at it

Jim - Sophie
Keith - Sophie
Dawn - Sophie
Whitney - Sophie
Cochran - Sophie
Edna - Sophie
Brandon - Coach
Ozzy - Coach
Rick - Coach

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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/16/11 9:54:00 PM
#275:


Love to see all the Sophie support. She really seems like the kind of player that the editors are all "holy s*** she's gonna run away with this game and we need to f*** with the audience." Coach played an excellent game. Ozzy has redemption run and a favoratble jury... but Sophie should be the winner. She has impressed me in every aspect of the game and her off-camera gameplay has been as good as her editting, it's been a done deal. Coach and Ozzy are season highlights. They have to stay "in," Brandon is the season joke and will be played out as long as he can be. Rick is the wildcard. Savaii jury is played to support redemption Ozzy. Albert is Sophie's direct contrast and "finale obstacle."

I think she's been playing a hell of a lot harder than the editting has suggested and I think she's already secured her spot in the finals and is ready to seal the deal... If I end up being wrong, wishful thinking got the better of me :(

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SlymDayspring
12/16/11 10:02:00 PM
#276:


You really think Cochran is a Sophie vote? I feel like he is pretty much the only person I think is definitely going to vote Coach.

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Justin_Crossing
12/16/11 10:23:00 PM
#277:


Coach explicitly was like MASSAGE PRAYER LETS NOT LET COCHRAN GO HOME *votes cochran*

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Justin_Crossing
12/16/11 10:24:00 PM
#278:


Sophie is definitely one of the best players we've had in a really long time.

I have no idea why I randomly said this.

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SlymDayspring
12/16/11 10:31:00 PM
#279:


I think Sophie has this, but I think Coach can get Cochran's vote. Cochran has a total ego, and gives Coach credit for flipping him (per ponderosa), and I feel like he is going to reward him for "outwitting" him. They also highlighted Coach and Cochran getting along, while showing Sophie saying mean things about Cochran in confessionals.

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The Mana Sword
12/16/11 10:33:00 PM
#280:


It's definitely possible. It's hard to gauge how much anyone made a connection with anyone else (unless it's Keith and Whitney LOL) with how little we actually see on TV. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Cochran vote for Coach. There really wasn't a whole lot of thought put into who votes who, other than the Savaii members not voting Coach!

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SlymDayspring
12/16/11 10:43:00 PM
#281:


one thing I think we can all agree on: keith/whitney= worst survivor couple of all time


and that isn't even a particularly good list

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edwardsdv
12/17/11 2:53:00 AM
#282:


You know, I could see ALbert winning this.

He was on the failed "save the guy on the way out" scheme multiple times, which may have endeared him to say Edna, and Cochran on the way out and if even two or three former Savaii decide Albert deserves the win he could take it...given he makes FTC.

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The Mana Sword
12/17/11 8:23:00 AM
#283:


Albert too feckless to win imo

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SlymDayspring
12/17/11 8:34:00 AM
#284:


Albert totally blew his chances in the last tribal, imo. Assuming he ever had them before that.

so feckless

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rammtay
12/17/11 8:37:00 AM
#285:


aww yeah, I'm caught up.
only took a week. Way better season than the first redemption island.
i'm hopin for a sophie, rick, and albert final
But it will most likely be Ozzy, Coach and someone else.

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Mik_Pick
12/17/11 1:46:00 PM
#286:


Can't say I care about Survivor: China much anymore. Just finished episode 5, I'd rather see Fei Long dominate than have Aaron get screwed over because Jaime and Peih Gee are *****.

I'm usually just "Aw oh well it's only a game." But I honestly don't think I've ever disliked someone as much in Survivor than Jaime. I'm happy to see that Fei Long dominates in the end.

Anyways finale tomorrow, will be the first finale in a longggg time that I haven't been spoiled on. Looking forward to it!

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SlymDayspring
12/17/11 3:18:00 PM
#287:


Can't say I care about Survivor: China

this is the point that I stopped reading.

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Mezameru
12/17/11 3:51:00 PM
#288:


You guys... every time you mention "feckless" I have to go look up that scene on youtube because Mick's response to it is priceless. Quit wasting my life, 23 seconds at a time!

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Mik_Pick
12/17/11 5:21:00 PM
#289:


Okay I'm enjoying China again, episode 6 was much better.

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SlymDayspring
12/18/11 8:54:00 AM
#290:


ALMOST TIME

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CrimsonOcean
12/18/11 10:20:00 AM
#291:


Peih Gee so under rated.

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SanityLapse
12/18/11 2:29:00 PM
#292:


CrimsonOcean posted...
Peih Gee so under rated.

Worst contestant in China. Denise was far better than her.


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Pondos
12/18/11 2:43:00 PM
#293:


I always mix up Peih Gee and Shii Ann. But I've never seen Thailand or China.

I'm probably still an awful person.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
12/18/11 2:51:00 PM
#294:


China is automatically a top 2 season of all time because it has Courtney.

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12/18/11 2:52:00 PM
#295:


OF ALL TIME

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SanityLapse
12/18/11 3:51:00 PM
#296:


Exile Island has the better Courtney though.


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SlymDayspring
12/18/11 3:59:00 PM
#297:


as if anyone is better than china courtney

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Xuxon
12/18/11 4:09:00 PM
#298:


both Courtneys are amazing let's just leave it at that
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12/18/11 4:21:00 PM
#299:


THE DRAGONZ

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12/18/11 4:25:00 PM
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