Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character: ANOTHER Nomination topic!

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Achromatic
11/19/11 7:18:00 PM
#1:


Currently on the agenda is me trying to figure out what to do with people who can create infinite suns or something like that, who can go ONE ON ONE WIT...DA UNDERTAKER! and have a chance, and last but not least how best to troll Kanz.
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KanzarisKelshen
11/19/11 7:20:00 PM
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The only way you could troll me is if you ran this so hard into the ground people stopped voting entirely.

That or you started doing mass DQs if people voted based on arguments I made, but in that case you'd get plenty of justified hate from everybody!

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Achromatic
11/19/11 7:23:00 PM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #002
The only way you could troll me is if you ran this so hard into the ground people stopped voting entirely.

That or you started doing mass DQs if people voted based on arguments I made, but in that case you'd get plenty of justified hate from everybody!


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_Regaro_
11/19/11 7:25:00 PM
#4:


So we're reposting lists for ease of access right

1) Nero Chaos (Tsukihime)
2) Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunnally)
3) Shukurou Tsukishima (Bleach)
4) Marisa Kirisame (Touhou)
5) Archer/Gilgamesh (Fate/Zero)

Changed Utsuho to Marisa and dropped the joke nomination so yeah.

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KanzarisKelshen
11/19/11 7:26:00 PM
#5:


Yes, pretty much. You'd become a joke if you did that. Believe it or not, I can make pretty decent arguments. See: Aang vs. Red in the previous MPFC, which I pretty much won for Red because people were too damn lazy to argue for him and post two scans until I went hunting for them.

(PS don't nom people you aren't willing to argue for guys. It's very dumb.)

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Achromatic
11/19/11 7:26:00 PM
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what can Marisa-chan do.

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_Regaro_
11/19/11 7:29:00 PM
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From: Achromatic | #006
what can Marisa-chan do.


pretty much all the basic touhou stuff and lasers of all sizes

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KanzarisKelshen
11/19/11 7:29:00 PM
#8:


Steal spells and launch big honking laser beams. If this sounds suspiciously similar to a previous MPFC entrant, it's because it is. The difference is that if you say spells don't carry over round by round they don't.

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Team Rocket Elite
11/19/11 7:30:00 PM
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Kirisame Marisa is one of the main characters from Touhou. She's an "ordinary magician". Her signature attack is the Master Spark which is a giant lightspeed laser. This attack is amplified by a mini-Hakkero which resembles a small octagonal block. The mini-Hakkero is a potent source of magical energy and has the firepower to burn down a mountain. Marisa is from a curtain shooter game so she loves to flood the field with projectiles fired in all directions. Her other attacks include Asteroid Belt, an attack that floods the field with star shaped projectiles. Blazing Star is an attack where she fires Master Spark backwards and uses the acceleration to ram her opponent. Dragon Meteor is an attack where she flings herself high into the air by aiming Master Spark at the ground and rains Master Spark on her opponent. In terms of speed feats, Marisa can fire off Master Spark at an opponent several feet in front of her, fly a few feet into the air and fire another one before the first one hits. She is not capable of faster than light movement, though. In terms of durability, she doesn't get vaporized from moving at near light speed and she can survive the super high temperatures near an artificial sun. Marisa is also highly skilled at dodging projectiles. "Initiative is victory" Marisa has no problems rushing in first.


Basically, lightspeed movement and lasers. No weird abilities.

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KanzarisKelshen
11/19/11 7:30:00 PM
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With that said though, Marisa makes for a terrible entrant because she's a very ????? entity due to Touhou mechanics.

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_Regaro_
11/19/11 7:30:00 PM
#11:


Her "title", so to speak, is some variant of "Ordinary Black Magician" so we can stretch that to say she has all of that kind of stuff that comes with it too <_<

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Achromatic
11/19/11 7:32:00 PM
#12:


I am marking her down as iffy!

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_Regaro_
11/19/11 7:32:00 PM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #010
With that said though, Marisa makes for a terrible entrant because she's a very ????? entity due to Touhou mechanics.


Better than Utsuho who I originally had in the spot <_<

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 7:32:00 PM
#14:


I've already forgotten most of who the hell I nommed, so here's a new list

1) Awesome Nom: Saint of Killers, or if he's DQed, Freddy Krueger
2) Kazuo Kiriyama (Battle Royale manga)
3) Ego the Living Planet
4) Kid Miracleman
5) Godzilla

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KanzarisKelshen
11/19/11 7:33:00 PM
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Yes, but that doesn't make her a good entrant at all. In general it's the out of combat abilities that make the Touhous interesting for MPFC. Everything that happens in boss fights can be dismissed because it massively nerfs or buffs characters. In Marisa's case I'd say it buffs her by a lot for instance.

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 7:34:00 PM
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6) Psycho Mantis (Last Days of FOXHOUND)

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 7:36:00 PM
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7) Shadow King. I doubt this one actually gets in, but if it does it'll be awesome

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Team Rocket Elite
11/19/11 7:55:00 PM
#18:


Almost everything in my Marisa writeup is from actual feats in the manga, from other written works or what the attack looks like in the fighting games. I didn't really use the Marisa boss fights from the danmaku games much at all.

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Equius_Zahhak
11/19/11 8:01:00 PM
#19:


I think I had

1. Ultimate Death Saurer (Zoids)
2. Lelouch The Demon King (Nightmare of Nunally)
3. The Music Meister (Batman: Brave and the Bold)

How many nominations can we have now?

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 8:01:00 PM
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Might as well move my noms and basic descriptions here.

1. Momoyo Kawakami (Maji de Watashi ni Koi Shinasai): Basically a low-level Goku, but can break free of suggestions and hypnosis at will, and can heal instantly. She has access to a self-destruct explosion move, and is perfectly fine after using it. Also has muscle memory, after seeing an opponent move she is able estimate their future movements perfectly. Speed-wise, she's fast enough to flick a bullet back at her opponent, and catch the blade of an opponent who dealt 12 slashes in less than a second, BEFORE memorizing her moves, and while distracted by another enemy on her level. She has a beam attack (of course), and IIRC, can generate a barrier, but I think she has to fully concentrate for the latter though. Best of all, she WILL blitz her opponent in a tournament setting. As in, she'll break their bones right at the start, at the very least.
2. Doraemon (Doraemon series): A robot from the future, has a 4-dimensional pouch on his belly from which he can pull out various tools, such a flashlight that reduces the size of things with it's light, a bag of snacks that will tame any beasts (and a similar one that's an instant laxative), a door that allows him to go anywhere, a hand cannon that shoots out air blasts, a gun that stuns/paralyzes, a cape that reflects ANYTHING. etc.
3. Anti Monitor (DC comics): Been in one. I think this one could probably go to the shredder...
4. Yukari Yakumo (Touhou Project): Her too. Probably this one is shredder worth as well.
5. Matrim Cauthon (Wheel of Time) : Oldie but goodie.
6. Perrin Aybara (Wheel of Time) : Never been in one, IIRC. Basically, he's a good guy Freddy Kreuger. Hell, this guy UNWEAVED Balefire, proof of his control over the dream-world.
7. Ashley Winchester (Wild Arms 2): ARMS user like Rudy, has multiple ammo, but unlike Rudy, this guy can go Henshin into a demon knight with a sword that kills an eldritch abomination that can't die.
8. Misogi Kumagawa (Medaka Box): Kumagawa's All Fiction is broken as hell. Allows him to make anything into fiction (not real)... including his death. AFTER he was killed. Recently, he was also able to keep both his ability (for some reason), so he also can use Book Maker. Basically, forces his own personality upon somebody else.

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 8:02:00 PM
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10 now, IIRC.

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_Regaro_
11/19/11 8:11:00 PM
#22:


From: Team Rocket Elite | #018
actual feats in the manga


Uh

which one <_<

SSiB seems most likely but it doesn't make sense <_<

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Team Rocket Elite
11/19/11 8:26:00 PM
#23:


Some of the write up was based on Marisa's fight SSiB.

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Achromatic
11/19/11 8:43:00 PM
#24:


My second host nomination: Naruto (IE Auto in)

Has gotten a lot more powerful since his last time in and he has never won a MPFC match. I'd like to see him given a shot with his new form.

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 8:44:00 PM
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So any problems with Monitor and Yukari?

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_Regaro_
11/19/11 8:44:00 PM
#26:


Hm

Naruto isn't a bad pick, in terms of "can he give an interesting match", as long as his opponent is reasonably well-chosen

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Achromatic
11/19/11 8:45:00 PM
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From: Natwaf_akidna | #025
So any problems with Monitor and Yukari?


Shredded.

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 8:48:00 PM
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Okay then, 4 more new guys... we've had Belial once, IIRC.

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Achromatic
11/19/11 8:52:00 PM
#29:


ZeedMilleniunmon

Has been Shredded.

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Blairville
11/19/11 8:54:00 PM
#30:


1. Kirby (Kirby series)

Hey, the Warp-Star cut through that thing from that smash game. It's something!

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Sceptilesolarbeam
11/19/11 8:55:00 PM
#31:


Awesome, another Kumagawa nom. I'm seconding that one.

I forget most of the other stuff I had. Fake Assassin, Dave Strider. Dresden, but he's auto-in.

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 8:57:00 PM
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But unfortunately, Kumagawa is destined to lose. That's the kind of guy he is!

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UberPyro64
11/19/11 9:01:00 PM
#33:


Kefka Palazzo
Giygas
Lavos

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:19:00 PM
#34:


Are my noms okay thus far?

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Achromatic
11/19/11 9:21:00 PM
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dont know much about 4 or 7.

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XNevermoreX
11/19/11 9:24:00 PM
#36:


Since Kurama was shredded, that means I've used three noms. Let's see how these fair!

4. Hiei (Yu Yu Hakusho)
5. Awesome nom: Kuwabara (Yu Yu Hakusho) <-- Hope one of those two will be fine! If Kuwabara is shredded, I'll pass on the awesome nom to someone else.
6. Orochimaru (Naruto)
7. Samurai Jack (Samurai Jack)
8. Edward Elric (Full Metal Alchemist)
9. Ultimate Armor Mega Man X

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:28:00 PM
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Achromatic posted...
dont know much about 4 or 7.

Kid Miracleman is a guy with Superman-ish powers. Flight, heat vision, speed, that stuff. He's also a homicidal maniac, with a special hate towards women

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That's what was left of London, after he was let out of his padded cell and given a few moments

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Achromatic
11/19/11 9:28:00 PM
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Superman did you say?

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:30:00 PM
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Shadow King is a disembodied telepathic ghost. He's the one who was responsible for crippling Professor X. They fought on the mental plane, Shadow King literally ate Xavier's astral form. Back in the real world, he screamed a lot and was paralyzed. He can possess people, and makes people more evil just by his being around

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Achromatic
11/19/11 9:30:00 PM
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How is he defeated in a 1 on 1 match?

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:31:00 PM
#41:


His powerset is similar. Character has nothing to do with Superman

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:32:00 PM
#42:


Achromatic posted...
How is he defeated in a 1 on 1 match?

That's the catch, ain't it? You can beat him if you're a better telepath than he is (Psylocke has done it). Or by hurting whatever host body he's in at the time. It hurts him too

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Wanglicious
11/19/11 9:32:00 PM
#43:


pretty surprised by the katanagatari love there tre, woo.

anyway, some other guys you mentioned ed...

manhunter's 'okay.' he has cooler powers but what holds him back is that he's soft and this is getting worse. that's why black adam works - he ain't. guts is also 'okay,' but personally i have a bunch of guys more interestign than a swordy who gets a chapter once every 3 months or something. there isn't anything new to what he has or has done, so he loses interest to me by default there. he can still put on nice matches matched well, but there's plenty more who can do what he does and better.

somebody you didn't mention though in all that was Naruto. i was double checking entries and he's been in 4 times.
1st contest - jobbed out to Kenshiro. i'm sure this wouldn't happen again.
2nd - Doomsday food.
3rd - lost to somebody from discworld. no idea. anagram contest.
4th - lost to luffy in a close one. both series have since been powered up.

found this interesting considering you mentioned Ichigo and Luffy, the 2nd of which has been in every contest since he first came to play in 2009, and he's won in the past few (the losses are Ipkiss and Flash) at least once in each. invitational was stopped midway through it seems, but he would've beaten Samus too and be in the top 8. including kan's, he's batting .500. the good thing though is he keeps getting new powers. wonder if there's other good one piece reps though. i remember one piece wiki had a bunch of guys with interesting powers.

ichigo really is a lot of the 'one trick pony' issue you had too. it's speed and more speed. there's a beam in there somewhere, but it's comboed with speed. everything about him boils down to speedblitz. he hasn't been in many but that's because he hasn't existed that much in the first place. he's relatively new and all his powerups were relatively new at the time. but that's all he really boils down to.

count on the other guys:
chaos has been in 3. dante's been in... 7/9 that he coule be eligible for. ...that's a lot of dante, and he usually won a match or two along the way. kratos in comparison yeah, has only been in 3. and lost most of 'em in round 1. ammy's been in very few. but i think that goes with ammy being weird in the first place. samus has been in all that she could be in. loses in round 1 more often.

screw black doom. nobody has a problem with juggy's peak either. but he tends to lose by ring out is his problem. if you can't do that, you're probably losing. jack's issue is that he's inconsistent and a one trick pony. nanoha's in the same boat as guts. and sora... just kinda sucks is all. reaction commands is what a lot of it boils down to, and if you don't quite buy that and see it as a gameplay element (because that's what most of 'em are - even talking is a reaction command) you get the result he's had. round 1 losses to even low-mid guys.

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Achromatic
11/19/11 9:33:00 PM
#44:


From: DeathChicken | #042
Achromatic posted...
How is he defeated in a 1 on 1 match?

That's the catch, ain't it? You can beat him if you're a better telepath than he is (Psylocke has done it). Or by hurting whatever host body he's in at the time. It hurts him too


Shredded.

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 9:33:00 PM
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Oh, are the rest okay then?

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Achromatic
11/19/11 9:34:00 PM
#46:


Everything else seems okay.

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 9:38:00 PM
#47:


As I recall, the problem with Juggernaut's peak is that at that point, he might as well be Cyttorak. He becomes his 100% possessed avatar

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Wanglicious
11/19/11 9:44:00 PM
#48:


there's 3 juggy forms that have been mentioned. 1) Trion Juggy. this was fine in anagram's iirc, but not in some others. that's the full avatar one that punches through and plows his way onwards through dimensions. 2) 8th day juggy. this is the generally accepted peak. 3) classic juggy. this is the base that gets worked with.

really, the solution to 2 and 3 is the same - remove from battle. 1's just not really used. 2's better sure, but even classic juggs is a matter of 'you'd better have some way to get rid of him or auto-kill because if not you're f'd.'

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Natwaf_akidna
11/19/11 9:48:00 PM
#49:


What about Darth Nihilus? Would he be problematic?

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DeathChicken
11/19/11 10:09:00 PM
#50:


I'm confused by the shredding of Kid Miracleman. Unless you're axing everyone with remotely similar powers to Superman (in which case, Black Adam is out. As is another cool choice I thought of, Count Nefaria. That guy was tough enough that Thor smacking him in the head with his hammer did nothing but make him laugh)

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