the guy's solutions of filters and bottled water are a bit lulz though because you need a pretty expensive filtration system to get fluoride out, and bottled water is often just tap water or less regulated in general
that catholic thing is also a bummer. but everyone knows the catholic church is evil so is this really news? news would be them branching out and selling old people...
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Nah I got his point but it's still based entirely on misinformation.
the sheer quantity of ignorance in his opinion is just astounding
It's not my opinion, it's the opinion of the church. It may not be representative of everyone, but the church does feel that their members are better than their non-members.
UltimaterializerX posted... From: Uglyface2 | #046 Humanist? Eugenics movement and several 20th century tyrants with enormous body counts. Buddhist? Talk to the Asian mainland about World War II. It goes on. Now here is an outstanding point.
This still happens, by the way, but they've gotten incredibly clever about it. People are literally brainwashed into thinking sodium fluoride in water is good for them, in spite all the evidence of it helping cancer rates skyrocket.
Just curious: why would the increase of cancer rates be directly tied into sodium fluoride in the water and not, say, the increase in people with sedentary lifestyles and the increase in childhood obesity? Seems like America, as a whole, has become a lot less healthy and I think that would explain increases in cancer rates, diabetes, heart disease, etc.
By the way, do you have the numbers for cancer rates? I was trying to look them up but didn't find anything definitive.
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The possible relationship between fluoridated water and cancer has been debated at length. The debate resurfaced in 1990 when a study by the National Toxicology Program, part of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, showed an increased number of osteosarcomas (bone tumors) in male rats given water high in fluoride for 2 years (3). However, other studies in humans and in animals have not shown an association between fluoridated water and cancer (4).
In a February 1991 Public Health Service (PHS) report, the agency said it found no evidence of an association between fluoride and cancer in humans. The report, based on a review of more than 50 human epidemiological (population) studies produced over the past 40 years, concluded that optimal fluoridation of drinking water “does not pose a detectable cancer risk to humans” as evidenced by extensive human epidemiological data reported to date (4).
In one of the studies reviewed for the PHS report, scientists at the National Cancer Institute evaluated the relationship between the fluoridation of drinking water and the number of deaths due to cancer in the United States during a 36-year period, and the relationship between water fluoridation and number of new cases of cancer during a 15-year period. After examining more than 2.2 million cancer death records and 125,000 cancer case records in counties using fluoridated water, the researchers found no indication of increased cancer risk associated with fluoridated drinking water (5).
In 1993, the Subcommittee on Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride of the National Research Council, part of the National Academy of Sciences, conducted an extensive literature review concerning the association between fluoridated drinking water and increased cancer risk. The review included data from more than 50 human epidemiological studies and six animal studies. The Subcommittee concluded that none of the data demonstrated an association between fluoridated drinking water and cancer (5). A 1999 report by the CDC supported these findings. The report concluded that studies to date have produced “no credible evidence” of an association between fluoridated drinking water and an increased risk for cancer (2).
Of course, a lot of this is from the 90's.
-- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner
Most of the studies of people living in areas with fluoridated water or naturally high levels of fluoride in drinking water did not find an association between fluoride and cancer risk. Two animal cancer studies were inconclusive. The international Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that the carcinogenicity of fluoride to humans is not classifiable.
-- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner
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redrocket posted... Radiation from computer screens gives you cancer.
F***
Edit: Cell phones too!
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What idiot is going to drink chlorinated water? It says right on the tablet label not to ingest.
You've never accidently had water go down your throat? Besides you can get cancer from just exposure on your body, or even your eyes if you don't wear goggles.
UltimaterializerX posted... From: Uglyface2 | #046 People assumed I was trolling when I brought up Steve Jobs' record, as if his evil isn't available for public consumption and knowledge.
You wouldn't happen to have a copy of that post about Jobs, would you? Because I remember looking up a quote that you claimed he said on Google and finding nothing.
Also, please correct me if I'm wrong (I would love to be wrong), but you aren't claiming that vaccines are bad, are you? Please, please tell me you aren't one of those horrible "Vaccines give you autism" people.
UltimaterializerX posted... I can find evidence of church involvement later, which will admittedly take some more digging since 501c3 charity donation houses are very good about keeping tight-lipped on controversies.
Want to keep going with this? I love embarrassing people who play the "lol Ulti is just derailing" crap when I am deathly serious and know full well what I'm talking about, fully sourced to boot.
I don't think internet-access alone is enough to say you're "fully sourced" here!
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Ulti, what should I search for on Google, because I've spent about 5 minutes on it, and found nothing. Just a few searches, like "UN Cancer Vaccines", "UN AIDS Vaccines", and then tried "UN putting Cancer in Vaccines" and "UN putting AIDS in vaccines", and still nothing. If it was an AP article, I figure I'd have found something right now.
Something like 11% of cancers are viruses, the rest have no cellular classification because they don't follow any of the normal cellular rules. From a purely scientific perspective, cancer cells are kind of fascinating.
Also lo tsunami marking people when he can't argue with them. Really mature of you, and way to prove my point.