Jukkie posted... I never ever said it worked. I just said it happens.
My examples are like worst case scenario. Did I listen to my boss when he told me to skimp on cheese? Hell no, I wasn't gonna rip of people.
You don't think the manager of a store could "forget" to order more pickles, so he tells people at the start of the shift to only put on 2 pickles instead of 3? Why would the kid making the burger care? Why would he not only do the 2 pickles?
Just saying.
It works the other way too... Why would he care? Just make it with three and when you run out yaaay. No more pickles to put on!
The point was that sure, it may happen that some random manager some where is cheap as hell... but this being some widespread thing? Definitely not. And it actually impacting customers in any way any more than just regular, good old fashioned incompetence would? Not seeing it. Possible, sure, but not really worth mentioning. A lot of tinfoil hat for no reason.
We generally don't cheat people at my store. There are a couple of exceptions here and there, but we much more frequently err on the side of giving the customer more than we should.
It's funny, though, when customers see conspiracies and cheating in everything when we're dealing fairly.
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From: redrocket | #050 Based on this quote, I have to wonder just how much your customers actually got cheated. Also, I'm sure there were many factors involved in your store's performance.
Nope the only thing we were based on was how much we cheated the customers.
You are off your rocker, rocket.
Teehee (That was also a joke, in case you don't understand it again)
Also, like I said before a normal pizza costs about 2 bucks to make, and they charge 10 for it. You really don't have to cheat that much to make a profit at a pizza store. Also I made pizza's about 5% of the time, the manager that told us to skimp? He worked about 70 hours a week, and made pizza's 80% of the time he was there, so you do the math.
Tom Bombadil posted... We generally don't cheat people at my store. There are a couple of exceptions here and there, but we much more frequently err on the side of giving the customer more than we should.
It's funny, though, when customers see conspiracies and cheating in everything when we're dealing fairly.
What kind of exceptions are you talking about?
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Jukkie posted... Highest is the region by far. I wonder how? Oh yeah we cheated people.
Nope the only thing we were based on was how much we cheated the customers.
You are off your rocker, rocket.
Teehee (That was also a joke, in case you don't understand it again)
This guy.
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The only thing I can think of on a regular basis is how much flavor we put in some of the mixed drinks and shakes and stuff, and even then I think it was an actual policy change.
We cheat on a few things, but most of them are just numbers that don't actually affect product or money or anything, like resetting our timer or finding workarounds to avoid having to void an item. One store under our franchise is notorious for under-ordering inventory and then borrowing the rest from us to look better to corporate.
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From: Azp2k32 | #044 Some of Jukkie's examples may not be applicable or realistic... but there's no reason to doubt Walmart doing this.
I have reason to doubt it!
I worked at Wal-Mart for about a year, and we were explicitly told to make sure prices were correct. The reason this stuff tends to happen at big stores like Wal-Mart is that literally hundreds of price changes are sent to the stores daily, and sometimes people get to the stuff before the changed price is put up.
It's either that or employee negligence.
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From: agesboy | #060 Also, we did awesome at that store. Highest is the region by far. I wonder how? Oh yeah we cheated people.
So... you're admitting your evidence is completely anecdotal and that other stores don't cheat as much as yours does. Gotcha
Yes I am saying we were the only store that ever cheated. Because I was always at the other stores even though I have no idea where they actually were/are. Knew all their managers and business practices.
You got me. Man, you out of context guys are good!
Directly challenging a statement is considered out of context these days? If you make blanket statements, of course people are going to challenge details, derp.
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I've been cheated several times at the grocery store. Things rang up for the wrong price. Sometimes it wasn't the cashiers fault. Sometimes it was. Like when I bought two kinds of apples (both at different prices) and they rang the more expensive apples up twice instead of ringing both of them up once.
But normally I just go to the manager, and make them give me a refund. Unless I don't notice it until I get home. Which happens sometimes.
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No specifically anecdotal evidence is going to prove anything here. I'd lean more toward Jukkie's side of the argument because at the end of the day every major chain is trying to make/save as much money as possible. When I worked at KFC it was different and my manager always wanted us to please the customer, but at the restaurant I work at now? We skimp people to hell and back. Some of the stuff we sell is such a bloody rip off and the servers/cooks actually get upset by it, but what are you gonna do?
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Wal-Mart doesn't intentionally screw their customers. They ignore their customers and do as little as possible for them, so thus I'm not surprised they didn't even bother fixing the mistake in that timeframe, but that's all.
Their vendors and employees on the other hand...
And Jukkie, the biggest difference is that I'm pretty sure no pizza place advertises or otherwise promises a specific amount of cheese. Even if a customer could prove they were giving less than the company mandated amount, there is no legal recourse for this. Pictures on advertisements could possibly be used in a case of gross disparity, but it would have to be pretty blatant. In other words, if a company wants to screw their customers, they do something less obvious than price mislabeling.
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This was not frivolous. If you applied the same percentage mischarge to all of Wal-Mart's sales, it amounts to 50% of their annual profits. 8 billion dollars a year. 2 cents on an item on which the store's profit margin was 2 cents? That's a lot.
And as she had already sued several times before this for the same thing, Wal-Mart's excuse that it was an accident is flimsy. After losing several lawsuits and paying damages each time, the store should have been well aware this was happening. It probably was an accident nonetheless, but Wal-Mart should try as hard as it can to avoid this kind of accident.