Board 8 > I really hate how overused the term "trolling" has become.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 10:55:00 PM
#101:


lol @ ExTha being wrong over and over again

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 10:55:00 PM
#102:


From: OmarsComin | #099
uh what? no. if you walk into into a classroom and snap everybody's pencil the entire room is going to be like "wow that guy is a douchebag."


I think what he's saying is that everyone who doesn't get upset recognized the trolling and didn't get upset, where-as the dude who flipped out got trolled.

Anyway, the pencil thing was an admittedly bad example.

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TimJab
09/13/11 10:56:00 PM
#103:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #097
lol when are you going to let it go?

It's seriously bizarre how much you care about this ****


the post you chose to quote makes your post make no sense

that post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic from the other day and was simply a counterpoint to the post you made

learn to read before coming at me bro

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 10:57:00 PM
#104:


From: TimJab | #103
the post you chose to quote makes your post make no sense

that post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic from the other day and was simply a counterpoint to the post you made

learn to read before coming at me bro


looks like I picked up on subtle shade that wasn't actually being thrown, excuse me

(although the statement does still apply in general so whatever)

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/13/11 10:57:00 PM
#105:


Phase posted...
Since I like to just throw wrenches in definitions: was Endless Eight trolling?

Nope, like I mentioned earlier, pretty much... directors of commercial entertainment have not trolled. Maybe some day, but it hasn't happened.

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TimJab
09/13/11 10:58:00 PM
#106:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #104
(although the statement does still apply in general so whatever)


i'm pressed

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 10:59:00 PM
#107:


I dunno, I still think trolling can be broadened to describe actions. Maybe six years ago when it was still basically an internet term, the strict definition fit better. I just don't think that trolling can only be done on the internet/with words.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:02:00 PM
#108:


From: ExThaNemesis | #107
I dunno, I still think trolling can be broadened to describe actions. Maybe six years ago when it was still basically an internet term, the strict definition fit better. I just don't think that trolling can only be done on the internet/with words.


There are some cases, but like I said, they can't involve directly harming or damaging a person or their property.

Like

Let's say I show up at a Juggalo concert wearing a Spice Girls T-shirt.

I feel like some of them would get PISSED off.

That would be a good example of physical trolling.

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:02:00 PM
#109:


Oh man, that would be fantastic trolling if you could escape with all your limbs.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:03:00 PM
#110:


OH or if me and some dude went to some rally for a conservative extremist republican candidate and starting making out in front of all the old Christians

that'd be physical trolling, I'd think

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Rad Link 5
09/13/11 11:03:00 PM
#111:


The problem is that trolling is a term that was invented to describe a type of action done over the internet, so it's hard to think of a non-internet action that meets the qualifications for trolling.

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banananor
09/13/11 11:05:00 PM
#112:


i 100% agree with the topic title

i've noticed it in mostly people at or below ~20 years old overusing the verb trolling.
Borrowing something without permission is apparently trolling.
Playing a shooter and killing someone is apparently trolling.

... I just don't understand kids these days.

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foolmor0n
09/13/11 11:05:00 PM
#113:


From: ExThaNemesis | #107
Maybe six years ago when it was still basically an internet term, the strict definition fit better.


I think it needs the strict definition because it is getting so mainstream.

Without a strict, unique definition, people will just use it as a generic synonym, and then you literally lose a word out of the vocabulary (like what happened with epic).

And then if you use its stricter definition it might be confusing to people who only know it as a synonym of "being annoying" or something and you have to spend time explaining the difference, etc.

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:05:00 PM
#114:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #110
OH or if me and some dude went to some rally for a conservative extremist republican candidate and starting making out in front of all the old Christians

that'd be physical trolling, I'd think


Yeah but it doesn't work by your strict definition, I don't think. Because if they get furious at you, it's pretty reasonable for them to do so (whether or not you feel getting upset at homosexual interactions is reasonable is irrelevant).

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:07:00 PM
#115:


From: ExThaNemesis | #114
Yeah but it doesn't work by your strict definition, I don't think. Because if they get furious at you, it's pretty reasonable for them to do so (whether or not you feel getting upset at homosexual interactions is reasonable is irrelevant).


I'm just going to not say anything because now we're asking for a whole different debate. >_>

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:07:00 PM
#116:


From: foolmor0n | #113
I think it needs the strict definition because it is getting so mainstream.

Without a strict, unique definition, people will just use it as a generic synonym, and then you literally lose a word out of the vocabulary (like what happened with epic).

And then if you use its stricter definition it might be confusing to people who only know it as a synonym of "being annoying" or something and you have to spend time explaining the difference, etc.


Hmmm. Thinking about it like this, you're right. "Epic" literally has lost its meaning from all the over-use and I would hate to see "trolling" go the same way, even if I've never really liked either term all that much.

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foolmor0n
09/13/11 11:07:00 PM
#117:


I don't think it's hard to define physical trolling because it started on the internet... it's because trolling is a primarily mental/psychological thing

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TimJab
09/13/11 11:08:00 PM
#118:


my friend went to an roh show with me in full cena attire (hat, shirt, wristbands, the orange ones) with jorts and a replica spinner belt and it was hilarious

during stuff like chain wrestling he would yell that he wanted to see a five-knuckle shuffle and start chants that nobody joined in on (and keep chanting by himself)

everybody that said something to him was told that they couldn't see him or that they needed their attitude adjusted

i'm positive that the chanting annoyed people (as well the extremely bright orange shirt) so i'm counting that as solid trolling

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:08:00 PM
#119:


From: TimJab | #115
my friend went to an roh show with me in full cena attire (hat, shirt, wristbands, the orange ones) with jorts and a replica spinner belt and it was hilarious

during stuff like chain wrestling he would yell that he wanted to see a five-knuckle shuffle and start chants that nobody joined in on (and keep chanting by himself)

everybody that said something to him he told that they couldn't see him or that they needed their attitude adjusted

i'm positive that the chanting annoyed people (as well the extremely bright orange shirt) so i'm counting that as solid trolling


yeah, this works

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:09:00 PM
#120:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #116
I'm just going to not say anything because now we're asking for a whole different debate. >_>


No, I mean it obviously is unreasonable in this day and age to get upset at that, but it still doesn't effect whether the action is trolling or not. The idiots at whatever GOP rally are reasonable in getting angry because they don't expect to see that there.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/13/11 11:09:00 PM
#121:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Hmmm. Thinking about it like this, you're right. "Epic" literally has lost its meaning from all the over-use and I would hate to see "trolling" go the same way, even if I've never really liked either term all that much.

I disagree there, epic is now another positive word to use like awesome, groovy, rad, etc, that's meaning. It's not its original meaning, but its a meaning, and a fun word to use I'd say.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:10:00 PM
#122:


It's so irritating how people will take language and just ram it into the ground

some of my friends in real life have already started using "pressed" incorrectly

it makes me sad

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:10:00 PM
#123:


But anyway on the basis of not wanting to see the word trolling go the way that epic has, we should start cutting back and telling people not to overuse it.

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Rad Link 5
09/13/11 11:10:00 PM
#124:


From: TimJab | #115
my friend went to an roh show with me in full cena attire (hat, shirt, wristbands, the orange ones) with jorts and a replica spinner belt and it was hilarious

during stuff like chain wrestling he would yell that he wanted to see a five-knuckle shuffle and start chants that nobody joined in on (and keep chanting by himself)

everybody that said something to him he told that they couldn't see him or that they needed their attitude adjusted

i'm positive that the chanting annoyed people (as well the extremely bright orange shirt) so i'm counting that as solid trolling


This is amusing, but I don't know if it's really trolling since no one made a fool of themselves by reacting poorly to it.

That's another problem with trolling in real life. People react much more sanely to things when they're not anonymous.

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:12:00 PM
#125:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #122
It's so irritating how people will take language and just ram it into the ground

some of my friends in real life have already started using "pressed" incorrectly

it makes me sad


I literally heard "adorbs" used in real life last week.

I swear I'll be going to jail if somebody says "totes" near me in real life.

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KommunistKoala
09/13/11 11:12:00 PM
#126:


mer be trolling

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foolmor0n
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#127:


That's why I like English (well, language in general, but English especially) because you can just come up with new words/meanings to replace the old, lost words.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#128:


From: ExThaNemesis | #125
I literally heard "adorbs" used in real life last week.

I swear I'll be going to jail if somebody says "totes" near me in real life.


my friends and I LOVE using "totes" ironically

specifically in the phrase "totes presh"

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Rad Link 5
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#129:


I've heard adorbs and totes in real life plenty.

Probably more than trolling, actually.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#130:


From: KommunistKoala | #126
mer be trolling


I never troll.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#131:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I swear I'll be going to jail if somebody says "totes" near me in real life.

Unless they say it ironically of course. Totes ironically.

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KommunistKoala
09/13/11 11:13:00 PM
#132:


From: ExThaNemesis | #605
I literally heard "adorbs" used in real life last week.

I swear I'll be going to jail if somebody says "totes" near me in real life.


People in my area (some of my friends as well) have used adorbs and totes

such as 'totes mah goats'

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TimJab
09/13/11 11:14:00 PM
#133:


From: ExThaNemesis | #125
I swear I'll be going to jail if somebody says "totes" near me in real life.


=)

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:16:00 PM
#134:


From: KommunistKoala | #132
such as 'totes mah goats'


see this doesn't even make any goddamn sense.

Totally my goats?

Totally your goats what?

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:16:00 PM
#135:


From: ExThaNemesis | #134
see this doesn't even make any goddamn sense.

Totally my goats?

Totally your goats what?


I think he means "Totes McGotes."

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:17:00 PM
#136:


I don't know what McGotes is so now I'm even more confused.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:18:00 PM
#137:


It's just a thing.

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foolmor0n
09/13/11 11:19:00 PM
#138:


My entire first year of college was girls saying "totes" and "presh" and "adorbs" and "craycray" and all that stuff 'ironically'.... all the time

There comes a point when it stops being ironic and becomes genuinely annoying... and nobody respects that point

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Rad Link 5
09/13/11 11:22:00 PM
#139:


What the hell would you describe as Totes McGoatse? I don't think I'd want to see anything described as Totally McGoatse.

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:22:00 PM
#140:


From: foolmor0n | #138
"craycray"


just cringed. Ugh.

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:23:00 PM
#141:


Also I understand totes mcgoats now.

It's just like a cute saying or whatever.

A cute saying that I want to KILL WITH FIRE.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
09/13/11 11:27:00 PM
#142:


"Craycray" was never ironic for me in the slightest.

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foolmor0n
09/13/11 11:27:00 PM
#143:


Also in highschool I used to say "obv" IRL because I played AIM mafia all the time and then these girls come in with their "totes" and "craycray" and start saying "obvi".... that one really messed me up because it sounds so much worse than "obv"

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ExThaNemesis
09/13/11 11:35:00 PM
#144:


Maybe we should just go to a totalitarian state with no internet lingo being used in real life.

I can't see many situations where saying "obv" wouldn't annoy me at least a little.

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